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Old 06-28-2005, 09:03 PM
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Patrick,

I forwarded your concern to Joe Riggs at PAC Audio and here is his response to the BCM/PCM flashing issues. I believe all is well.

Pete,



There are no issues when flashing the PCM/BCM with the AAI-GM24 installed, yes, there were some issues with the older versions but we have fixed the issue. It’s good to hear things are still working great for you. If you have any other questions feel free to contact me whenever.

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Thanks Pete! That is good news! Great Job!


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Old 07-18-2005, 06:42 PM
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I want to modify the PAC GM 24 to feed the audio to a LS6 line level adaptor. Can you help with the PAC GM 24 modifications? I have the 1SB with nav and there are lots of us that this will solve not being able to hear our music with the roof off! Thanks for all you two have already done!
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Originally Posted by Steve Germany
I want to modify the PAC GM 24 to feed the audio to a LS6 line level adaptor. Can you help with the PAC GM 24 modifications? I have the 1SB with nav and there are lots of us that this will solve not being able to hear our music with the roof off! Thanks for all you two have already done!
The GM 24 adapter takes the output from a given device (mp3 player, etc.) and converts it to line level out for you. The GM24 then feeds this line level output into the Nav radio line level input. If you want to capture just the line level output, you could easily do that by just tapping into the GM24 harness on the opposite of the GM24 module. Am I understanding your question correctly? You want to INPUT line level into the LS6 adapter? If so, just tap the line level on the back side of the PAC GM24 and you're all set.
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Yes that is exactly what I want to do. I was wondering if you had the pin outs from the HU (GM 24 harness) and if I need to cut the harness wires for each speaker or if I should tap into the each wire in order to connect to the LS6 (and thus to my amps).

My understanding is that I need to leave many of the connections in place (antenna trigger, amp power etc) and pass them through the PAC GM 24 so that the rest of the integrated conponents still operate. Is this correct?

Bottom line questions...
1) Can I just cut the speaker wires on the PAC GM24 harness and feed them to the LS6 or do I have to tap the wires, and
2) Could you post the speaker pin outs from the HU 24 pin harness? I have two conflicting sets of pin outs and I really trust your insight.

Thanks!!!
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Originally Posted by Steve Germany
Yes that is exactly what I want to do. I was wondering if you had the pin outs from the HU (GM 24 harness) and if I need to cut the harness wires for each speaker or if I should tap into the each wire in order to connect to the LS6 (and thus to my amps).

My understanding is that I need to leave many of the connections in place (antenna trigger, amp power etc) and pass them through the PAC GM 24 so that the rest of the integrated conponents still operate. Is this correct?

Bottom line questions...
1) Can I just cut the speaker wires on the PAC GM24 harness and feed them to the LS6 or do I have to tap the wires, and
2) Could you post the speaker pin outs from the HU 24 pin harness? I have two conflicting sets of pin outs and I really trust your insight.

Thanks!!!
Pin-outs for the Nav radio:

12 way connector

Pin A - Orange - Amplifier Mute Signal
Pin B - Gray - Radio Vehicle Noise Compression Enable Signal
Pin C - Not Used
Pin D - Dark Green/White Tracer - Vehicle Speed Signal (Denso Radios)
Pin E - Not Used
Pin F - Not Used
Pin G - Not Used
Pin H - Dark Green/White Tracer - Right Audio Signal
Pin J - Brown/White Tracer - Left Audio Signal
Pin K - Tan/White Tracer - Audio Common
Pin L - Light Blue - Remote Playback Device Audio Common Signal (UL2/UE1)
Pin M - Orange/Blck Tracer - Remote Playback Device Audio Signal (UL2/UE1)

24 way connector - Row A on Top side, Row B on Bottom Side

Pin A1 - Orange - Class 2 Data Bus
Pin A2 - Not Used
Pin A3 - Not Used
Pin A4 - Yellow - FM Composite Signal
Pin A5 - Not Used
Pin A6 - Not Used
Pin A7 - Not Used
Pin A8 - Tan - Left Front Low Level Audio Signal (+)
Pin A9 - Dark Green - Left Front Low Level Audio Signal (-)
Pin A10 - Tan - Right Rear Low Level Audio Signal (-)
Pin A11 - Dark Blue - Right Rear Low Level Audio Signal (+)
Pin A12 - Black/White Tracer - Ground
Pin B1 - Red/White Tracer - Battery Positive Voltage
Pin B2 - Not Used
Pin B3 - White - Antenna Enable Signal
Pin B4 - Not Used
Pin B5 - Not Used
Pin B6 - Orange - Amplifier Mute Signal
Pin B7 - Not Used
Pin B8 - Brown/White Tracer - Left Rear Low Level Audio Signal (+)
Pin B9 - Brown - Left Rear Low Level Audio Signal (-)
Pin B10 - Light Green - Right Front Low Level Audio Signal (-)
Pin B11 - Dark Green - Right Front Low Level Audio Signal (+)
Pin B12 - Not Used

PAC AAI-GM24 Wiring:

White wire - Right Audio Signal (Line Level)
Gray wire - Left Audio Signal (Line Level)
Black wire - Audio Common Ground
Purple wire - Class 2 Data Bus
Old 07-19-2005, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Blazer
Pin-outs for the Nav radio:

12 way connector

Pin A - Orange - Amplifier Mute Signal
Pin B - Gray - Radio Vehicle Noise Compression Enable Signal
Pin C - Not Used
Pin D - Dark Green/White Tracer - Vehicle Speed Signal (Denso Radios)
Pin E - Not Used
Pin F - Not Used
Pin G - Not Used
Pin H - Dark Green/White Tracer - Right Audio Signal
Pin J - Brown/White Tracer - Left Audio Signal
Pin K - Tan/White Tracer - Audio Common
Pin L - Light Blue - Remote Playback Device Audio Common Signal (UL2/UE1)
Pin M - Orange/Blck Tracer - Remote Playback Device Audio Signal (UL2/UE1)

24 way connector - Row A on Top side, Row B on Bottom Side

Pin A1 - Orange - Class 2 Data Bus
Pin A2 - Not Used
Pin A3 - Not Used
Pin A4 - Yellow - FM Composite Signal
Pin A5 - Not Used
Pin A6 - Not Used
Pin A7 - Not Used
Pin A8 - Tan - Left Front Low Level Audio Signal (+)
Pin A9 - Dark Green - Left Front Low Level Audio Signal (-)
Pin A10 - Tan - Right Rear Low Level Audio Signal (-)
Pin A11 - Dark Blue - Right Rear Low Level Audio Signal (+)
Pin A12 - Black/White Tracer - Ground
Pin B1 - Red/White Tracer - Battery Positive Voltage
Pin B2 - Not Used
Pin B3 - White - Antenna Enable Signal
Pin B4 - Not Used
Pin B5 - Not Used
Pin B6 - Orange - Amplifier Mute Signal
Pin B7 - Not Used
Pin B8 - Brown/White Tracer - Left Rear Low Level Audio Signal (+)
Pin B9 - Brown - Left Rear Low Level Audio Signal (-)
Pin B10 - Light Green - Right Front Low Level Audio Signal (-)
Pin B11 - Dark Green - Right Front Low Level Audio Signal (+)
Pin B12 - Not Used

PAC AAI-GM24 Wiring:

White wire - Right Audio Signal (Line Level)
Gray wire - Left Audio Signal (Line Level)
Black wire - Audio Common Ground
Purple wire - Class 2 Data Bus
Blazer - you are a stereophile's hero! Thanks for your help! I hope that someone put this thread into an archive somewhere!
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Old 08-24-2005, 06:57 PM
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And no issues with using both the NAV, XM Radio and the Aux input? (Not at the same time, of course). Does the select button step through to allow the selection of XM or Aux?
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Originally Posted by sethracer
And no issues with using both the NAV, XM Radio and the Aux input? (Not at the same time, of course). Does the select button step through to allow the selection of XM or Aux?
Can you use the AUX imput to install a DVD player?
Old 08-24-2005, 08:50 PM
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Anyone have a problem with putting this in a 6 speed car? I followed these instructions to the 'T' and am getting dead batteries. I know its just from the installation of this cause I took it out for a week and didn't have a dead battery, day after I put it back in, of course got a dead battery. Anyways just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by sethracer
And no issues with using both the NAV, XM Radio and the Aux input? (Not at the same time, of course). Does the select button step through to allow the selection of XM or Aux?
I don't have the XM so I can't answer that. However, I use the CD changer button to listen to my mp3 player. Once you add the AUX input, the cd button changes from CD to CD/CDX. Press it twice, that puts you in CD changer mode and the mp3 player works.
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USe the Monster FM Transmitter..Works Great...
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blazer, hey i just got the parts in and i am somewhat confused. What are the modifications that teamspeed is doing? i want to do them to the gm24 adaptor i just received. I just got back in from out of town and cant wait to make this all work.
Thanks, Dave
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Originally Posted by DaveZeltser
blazer, hey i just got the parts in and i am somewhat confused. What are the modifications that teamspeed is doing? i want to do them to the gm24 adaptor i just received. I just got back in from out of town and cant wait to make this all work.
Thanks, Dave
Hey Dave - TeamSpeed will put the same connectors on the PAC harness that he uses for the V1 hardwire harness. You won't have to cut any OEM wiring for the splices that way.
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Originally Posted by matty98ws6
Anyone have a problem with putting this in a 6 speed car? I followed these instructions to the 'T' and am getting dead batteries. I know its just from the installation of this cause I took it out for a week and didn't have a dead battery, day after I put it back in, of course got a dead battery. Anyways just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. Thanks.
Anyone know the answer to this one?
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Originally Posted by matty98ws6
Anyone have a problem with putting this in a 6 speed car? I followed these instructions to the 'T' and am getting dead batteries. I know its just from the installation of this cause I took it out for a week and didn't have a dead battery, day after I put it back in, of course got a dead battery. Anyways just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. Thanks.
Yes, this is a problem with the specific to the gm24 & man 6sp. I talked to PAC audio about this and here's what I found out -

The pinB1 (oem red/white tracers), that the gm24 yellow wire connects to, is constant power in the manual c6, so when you hookup the gm24 unit it's draining the battery.

You have to find an alternate rap power source, or hookup a relay.


I myself have not tested all the harness plugs with the volt meter to see what their state is during engine-running or total shutdown with and without the gm24 unit to verify this.

I just took my gm24 unit out and have been fine for quite some time now.
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Not too difficult to find a switched power source from the fuse pannel under the passenger's foot well.

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Originally Posted by Steve Germany
Not too difficult to find a switched power source from the fuse pannel under the passenger's foot well.
I found another thread regarding adding a 12v accessory line to the car, as above to the passenger side fuse panel.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...9&forum_id=101

(hope that link works - if not, do a search for "12v")


I did the add-a-circuit method, connect to the "wiper/htd-seat relay" fuse. Ran the gm24 unit as normal, except the "gm24 yellow" power line to the fuse panel with add-a-circuit.

Aux-audio only available when the engine is running. Runs great. No battery drain.
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Isn't there a switched power source at the radio? Even the manual transmission shuts the radio off when the car is off.

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Originally Posted by Periokid
Isn't there a switched power source at the radio? Even the manual transmission shuts the radio off when the car is off.
This is only a problem in the manual c6's.

Unfortunately, it was found that the the power feeding into the radio is constant power. The gm24 unit, which was tapping into that, was thusly running my battery down.

The auto c6's don't have this same problem, and can be tapped into the radios power line using the manufacturers instructions verbatim.

I'm sure they'll figure something out, but for the time being...tap into the fuse.

(the above was confirmed by pac audio in conversation, and myself in implimentation both ways)


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