l2vette

What kind stuff can the government require?????
Will HP suffer??
:confused:

Tom73

Any thing that they want. Another reason to make sure about who you elect.

tom...

peccles

Tom is right to a certain extent. Many regulations are made
by government sanctioned beauracracies like the EPA
and NTSB without even a vote in Congress. The Congress
and the President have given a good amount of authority
to these beauracracies for control over our lives.

Paul

fifimonster

any major new specific regs coming due for 2004 that might affect performance?

CORKVETTE1

THE epa su*ks :mad


[Modified by CORKVETTE1, 10:14 PM 9/2/2001]

C5 YA

oh yeah!! There way off being the big boss.

Matt Gruber

uniform bumpers:
ALL BUMPERS MUST BE 38 inches high"


j/k

Griff2002

I understand the 2004 model year (i.e. sometime in 2003) will require automakers to warranty emissions for 125,000 miles instead of 100,000 miles. There may be a new set of lubricant specifications to help prolong catalyst life.

Scissors

You had me scared there for a minute.

l2vette

All fluids maybe required to be synthetic! :D

rocknrod

Ya if it woint fo da big howly boss man
in da white houz, we be sittin fat rat man.
Thats what I heard the last time I was in Hono. :lol:

ShanMan14

All real sports cars will be called "Corvette". :p:

Doughan

Yessssss. :D :jester

BucksnVettes

Hey all real sports cars are already called corvette :yesnod:

Z06_BluByU

I heard a rumor the EPA has ties with Osmar Bin Laden.. terrorists!! :smash:

Jeff Wilson

Like Frank Zappa said... "Register to vote, and read the Constitution before it's void where prohibited by law" ;)

Arkay

I understand the 2004 model year will have a 48 Volt electrical system.

70L46

There will be no drastic changes for 2004. At this point, it is too late to make major changes in 2004 designs. Longer term, there is still a lot of investment being made in alternate fuels, hybrids, etc. There are also still improvements to come for the good old internal combustion engine. Full electronic valve control, start/stop stratgies, lean burn w/ NOX traps, etc. A lot of these new technologies will require 48V systems, but don't expect to see them in 2004. More towards the end of this decade is more likely, with the odd few applications possible in the 2005-2006 time frame.

SWCDuke

I believe the new electrical systems are being quoted by most sources as "42 volt".

I don't think there are major changes in emission control cast in concrete yet, but the two sources that are being looked at are evaporative emissions and cold start emissions. Modern cars have so little tailpipe HC, the major source is becoming evaporative emissions, so we can expect more robust evaporative control systems within the next few years.

About 80 percent of emissions generated during the 40 minute EPA certification test come during the first two minutes of operation - the time it takes for the converter and O2 sensor to warm up enough to be effective allowing the engine to go into closed loop mode, so some kind of preheaters will probably also be added in the not to distant future.

Neither more robust evap controls nor preheaters are likely to reduce performance, but they will add a little weight.

I think electronically actuated valves are still in the distant future - say at least five or more years - but the 42 volt systems will be necessary for both electronically actuated valves and catylist/O2 preheaters.

The new electrical systems are likely to be dual voltage - 42/12 volts, with only a handful of new systems using 42 volts. Most on-board systems will continue with 12 volts.


Duke


[Modified by SWCDuke, 8:03 AM 10/21/2001]

AquaMetallic94LT1

You'll see this on Mercedes and Porsches first but once it gets to the more pedestrian (as viewed by GM) 50K+ cars like the vette, a chip change will really add 40 hp. Hmmm.........