Z51 vs Base Suspension
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Z51 vs Base Suspension
How much STIFFER does the Z51 ride compared to the base suspension? I know about the advantages and disadvantages of the Z51 but I'm mainly interested in the ride feel in day to day use.
Is it STIFFER by like 10%, 25%, or what? Thanks for the help.
Is it STIFFER by like 10%, 25%, or what? Thanks for the help.
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I own the base and have now driven three Z51's short term. In my estimation, the Z51 is maybe 15% stiffer. The most obvious difference is body roll. The base suspension has vastly underrated anti-roll bars IMHO and the side to side body roll in the base car is (again IMHO) unacceptable for a sports car! I installed the Z51 sway bars on my base car within a few months of ownership due to what I'd call horrendous body roll in the corners. After the install, no body roll to speak of but the suspension still feels a little looser due to the shocks/springs. I don't mind that personally because it's a little easier on the teeth when just tooling around or on a long trip.
Mike
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I had driven a base suspension in a friend's car last year, and it felt too soft for me. I read about the Z51 here, and while there is a significant difference of opinion among Forum members, I ended up ordering the Z51 despite some people's feeling that the Z51 is too harsh. I couldn't arrange for a test drive myself without undue hardship, so I just bought it and crossed my fingers.
I picked up my Z51-equipped coupe this weekend and from the moment I drove it off MacMulkin's lot, I was thrilled with the way it feels. I couldn't be happier with it, and in retrospect I'm wondering if any of the people that said they felt the Z51 was too harsh were owners of that suspension. I find it hard to imagine why anyone would complain about it.
Anyway, drive it if you can. At least you won't have the anxiety that I did while waiting.
I picked up my Z51-equipped coupe this weekend and from the moment I drove it off MacMulkin's lot, I was thrilled with the way it feels. I couldn't be happier with it, and in retrospect I'm wondering if any of the people that said they felt the Z51 was too harsh were owners of that suspension. I find it hard to imagine why anyone would complain about it.
Anyway, drive it if you can. At least you won't have the anxiety that I did while waiting.
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Originally Posted by Stangar
I'm mainly interested in the ride feel in day to day use.
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I've owned several vehicles with harsh suspensions and the Z51 is no where near being in that category. IMO, anyone who thinks the Z51 is too stiff and harsh is probably in the wrong car anyway regradless of the suspension.......Cadillac and Lexus make some nice cushy road pillows.
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What GM needs to do is offer the Z51 package with the F55 select a ride shocks! Now that would sell! It seems to me that most other brands in this class offer this option.
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Originally Posted by SA HEAT
I've owned several vehicles with harsh suspensions and the Z51 is no where near being in that category. IMO, anyone who thinks the Z51 is too stiff and harsh is probably in the wrong car anyway regradless of the suspension.......Cadillac and Lexus make some nice cushy road pillows.
IMO
Mike
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Z51 Springs are a little to Stiff.
Shocks have a little to much Compression Damping and not enough Rebound
Sways are fine
Best Combo:
Springs- Base
Sways- Z51 or Z06 Bars (Z06 has more drop throttle Oversteer)
Shocks- Bilstein Sport
Max Drop Allowed by Stock Bolts (Maybe trim the rear bushing just a little)
Gene
Shocks have a little to much Compression Damping and not enough Rebound
Sways are fine
Best Combo:
Springs- Base
Sways- Z51 or Z06 Bars (Z06 has more drop throttle Oversteer)
Shocks- Bilstein Sport
Max Drop Allowed by Stock Bolts (Maybe trim the rear bushing just a little)
Gene
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Originally Posted by V8lust
I had driven a base suspension in a friend's car last year, and it felt too soft for me. I read about the Z51 here, and while there is a significant difference of opinion among Forum members, I ended up ordering the Z51 despite some people's feeling that the Z51 is too harsh. I couldn't arrange for a test drive myself without undue hardship, so I just bought it and crossed my fingers.
I picked up my Z51-equipped coupe this weekend and from the moment I drove it off MacMulkin's lot, I was thrilled with the way it feels. I couldn't be happier with it, and in retrospect I'm wondering if any of the people that said they felt the Z51 was too harsh were owners of that suspension. I find it hard to imagine why anyone would complain about it.
Anyway, drive it if you can. At least you won't have the anxiety that I did while waiting.
I picked up my Z51-equipped coupe this weekend and from the moment I drove it off MacMulkin's lot, I was thrilled with the way it feels. I couldn't be happier with it, and in retrospect I'm wondering if any of the people that said they felt the Z51 was too harsh were owners of that suspension. I find it hard to imagine why anyone would complain about it.
Anyway, drive it if you can. At least you won't have the anxiety that I did while waiting.