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Old 02-07-2007, 07:18 AM
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Drove with that match up on my C5 for years and loved it. No problems at all.
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Originally Posted by Deep Blue
How heavy are these combos. Lokks good but I would hate to add anything that actually hurts performance.
Acccording to John @ CCW, the 20x11s should weigh nearly the same as the stock 19x10 painted wheels.

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Old 02-25-2007, 05:19 PM
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John at CCW said it was fine

Also after the lpe conversion i think i will be driving mostly with the TC off
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Have you driven the car any with the new wheels and tires? Won't that cause problems with the ABS/TC system?

Aren't the VSS expecting the front and rear wheels to be turning at certain speed "ratios" in relation to one another (not so much the same, just at the same percentage ratio, front to rear).

For example, the stock tires are 25.7" (F) and 26.9" (R) diameter. The fronts rotate 808 revolutions per mile, the rears rotate 775 revolutions per mile. The rears rotate at a 96% rate when compared to the fronts.

Your new tires are 25.6" (F) and 28" (R) diameters. The fronts rotate 814 revolutions per mile, the rears rotate 744 revolutions per mile. The rears rotate at a 91% rate when compared to the fronts.

For every mile that you drive and the VSS relies on data to determine weather Active Handling/Traction Control/ABS is necessary at any given time, your tires are rotating much differently than the ECM thinks is "normal". Is there enough "flexibility" so that the ECM figures out what is going on without causing problems?

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Originally Posted by SPANKY LS1
Acccording to John @ CCW, the 20x11s should weigh nearly the same as the stock 19x10 painted wheels.
But the center of mass is located further from the axis. That means inertia loading is greater. In other words, it takes more power to accelerate, and more braking effort to decelerate the 20. That's why F1 and Champ cars use 12 or 13 inch wheels with 40 or 50 profile tires, and why fuel dragsters use 15 inch wheels with 50 or 60 profile tires.

Tires with extremely short sidewalls on huge spoked wheels were popular on antique farm wagons and stage coaches, but they aren't a good choice on a performance car.
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Originally Posted by shopdog
But the center of mass is located further from the axis. That means inertia loading is greater. In other words, it takes more power to accelerate, and more braking effort to decelerate the 20. That's why F1 and Champ cars use 12 or 13 inch wheels with 40 or 50 profile tires, and why fuel dragsters use 15 inch wheels with 50 or 60 profile tires.

Tires with extremely short sidewalls on huge spoked wheels were popular on antique farm wagons and stage coaches, but they aren't a good choice on a performance car.
While this might be an issue when going from a 19" wheel to a wagon wheel, I doubt that going from a 24 lb 19" rim to a 24 lb 20" rim is going to make much of a difference, if any at all.

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Old 02-26-2007, 10:41 AM
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I went from the standard 18/19 factory painted wheels to 19/20 CCW 505a's with PS2's. The 20X13 CCW wheels have the 335-30 ZR20 tires. I weighed the tire/wheel combos and the differences are the 19/runflat was 67# and the 20/PS2 was 73#. Yes the 6 lb is significant but the 2 inch wider tire will help with my APS TT.
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Originally Posted by SPANKY LS1
While this might be an issue when going from a 19" wheel to a wagon wheel, I doubt that going from a 24 lb 19" rim to a 24 lb 20" rim is going to make much of a difference, if any at all.

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Plus the new super vette (blue devil)

Will be running 19 20 setup
SO must be fine for GM
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Originally Posted by shopdog
But the center of mass is located further from the axis. That means inertia loading is greater. In other words, it takes more power to accelerate, and more braking effort to decelerate the 20. That's why F1 and Champ cars use 12 or 13 inch wheels with 40 or 50 profile tires, and why fuel dragsters use 15 inch wheels with 50 or 60 profile tires.

Tires with extremely short sidewalls on huge spoked wheels were popular on antique farm wagons and stage coaches, but they aren't a good choice on a performance car.
Dragsters and anything else that depends on putting big power to the ground use big tires because they need the sidewalls to wrinkle for improved traction. An F1 car can also take advantage of the fact that it weighs little, particularly in relation to the extremely wide tires it can run. All things being equal, more wheel usually equals more weight, but that's only true when comparing equivalent items. A forged wheel buys you some weight savings over a cast one.
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I believe my c6 z51 drives and rides nicer with the oem 19/20 with non runflat michelin tires as opposed to oem 18/19 gummy wheels and handkook tires...

This is my daily driver and has 102k miles.

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