How Does C6 Emergency Brake Work
09-24-2007, 08:44 PM
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As I stated in my first post about this #8 , the mechanical parts need an adjustment over excessive use. Which is why I only use it on hills.
09-25-2007, 08:16 AM
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You mean by "pull the handle more" meaning you have to pull it up higher I assume? Eventually its gonna not be able to go up anymore and the brake wont work properly. Its when that happens the cable and linkage need to be adjusted.
As I stated in my first post about this #8 , the mechanical parts need an adjustment over excessive use. Which is why I only use it on hills.
As I stated in my first post about this #8 , the mechanical parts need an adjustment over excessive use. Which is why I only use it on hills.
The ratcheting mechanism in the handle assembly has a built-in adjuster that compensates for wear and cable stretch.
A non-issue.
09-25-2007, 04:01 PM
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But doesnt it eventually run out of compensation room? It can only self-adjust so much right?
09-25-2007, 05:05 PM
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It would take a ton of wear. See for yourself. Remove the passenger seat, then the carpet covering the mechanism. Pull up and down on the lever. Figure out how it works.
09-25-2007, 06:11 PM
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Thats funny, I can do the same thing , but instead of e-brake I just give gas
haha.But to those that never use e-brake excet parking, every once in a while,like every year or so it is good to use it for light braking once or twice, prevents the system from becoming 'stale'.(even though jsut using it to aprk should be enough,its just an added precaution)
09-25-2007, 07:21 PM
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I already know the mechanics that are involved, secondly in the post below you will see quite a few people state that it might need adjustment.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1562057280
09-25-2007, 09:06 PM
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Depends on which way the car wants to roll. On flat ground it doesn't matter. On car facing downhill, use 1st- on uphil use reverse. You want the compression in the cylinders to resist the rolling. In theory, if you do the opposite, the valves will be open and no compression will occur. This may not be much of an issue in reality, however.
And vice versa when facing uphil? (Park in first, so the car CAN'T roll backward.)
09-26-2007, 07:21 AM
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I already know the mechanics that are involved, secondly in the post below you will see quite a few people state that it might need adjustment.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1562057280
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1562057280
If you really wamt to learn more, search the C-5 tech section. Many C-5s had essentially non-functioning e-brakes due to the ratcheting mechanism not functioning and/or the shoe adjustment at the wheel was way off.
If the e-brake is not holding I would adjust the shoe at the wheel end. This will be an interesting learning experience for those who do it.
09-26-2007, 11:41 AM
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Yes, the operation of the shoes might need adjusting. This is done at the wheels. But the "wear" of the ratcheting mechanism and any cable stretch will be self-adjusted at the e-brake handle mechanism.
If you really wamt to learn more, search the C-5 tech section. Many C-5s had essentially non-functioning e-brakes due to the ratcheting mechanism not functioning and/or the shoe adjustment at the wheel was way off.
If the e-brake is not holding I would adjust the shoe at the wheel end. This will be an interesting learning experience for those who do it.
If you really wamt to learn more, search the C-5 tech section. Many C-5s had essentially non-functioning e-brakes due to the ratcheting mechanism not functioning and/or the shoe adjustment at the wheel was way off.
If the e-brake is not holding I would adjust the shoe at the wheel end. This will be an interesting learning experience for those who do it.
If the shoe at the wheel needs adjustment, then that still means it needs adjustment. The self adjuster you describe might help but its only for so much, just face it, E brakes do after excessive use stop working properly.
I know of countless cars that have E brake problems, that the brakes are not holding the car in place. I only use them on hills (even with automatics) so the force dont rest fully on that small pencil width parking bar in an auto tranny.
I stop the car on a hill, pull the park brake up, then shift into park. Now the car doesnt rest on the tranny.
And another thing I do when parked on an incline is cut the wheels toward the curb for added security incase anything lets go!
09-26-2007, 11:48 AM
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I set the brake every time I park.
No problems at all.
BTW my 99 C5 brake wouldn't hold the car from day one. I adjusted it, worked ok from then on.
I've checked MANY other C5s, same thing, e-brake won't hold the car on a small hill.
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09-26-2007, 02:30 PM
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C6 Parking Brake
I don't think my parking brake holds very well at all.
I am taking into the dealer next week to have it adjusted.
I usually set the brake, and leave parked in 1st.
I love the easy out feature - so I learned on the first day of ownership to set the parking brake.
I am taking into the dealer next week to have it adjusted.
I usually set the brake, and leave parked in 1st.
I love the easy out feature - so I learned on the first day of ownership to set the parking brake.
09-26-2007, 04:45 PM
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If the shoe at the wheel needs adjustment, then that still means it needs adjustment. The self adjuster you describe might help but its only for so much, just face it, E brakes do after excessive use stop working properly.
I know of countless cars that have E brake problems, that the brakes are not holding the car in place. I only use them on hills (even with automatics) so the force dont rest fully on that small pencil width parking bar in an auto tranny.
I stop the car on a hill, pull the park brake up, then shift into park. Now the car doesnt rest on the tranny.
And another thing I do when parked on an incline is cut the wheels toward the curb for added security incase anything lets go!
I know of countless cars that have E brake problems, that the brakes are not holding the car in place. I only use them on hills (even with automatics) so the force dont rest fully on that small pencil width parking bar in an auto tranny.
I stop the car on a hill, pull the park brake up, then shift into park. Now the car doesnt rest on the tranny.
And another thing I do when parked on an incline is cut the wheels toward the curb for added security incase anything lets go!
11-28-2013, 02:29 PM
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Did you ever try compression start a manual by pushing a car forward and popping the clutch out when in reverse? Not happening. This is why a car facing downhill will hold better in reverse gear and when facing uphill in 1st gear. For best holding resistance, put the shifter in the opposite gear that momentum will take you.
11-28-2013, 02:57 PM
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Anybody else find that the e-brakedoesn't hold the car all that well. I've had the car roll on me 2 or 3 times on a VERY slight incline when I forgot to put it in reverse and left it in neutral. Having to jump in a rolling car and yank the e-brake as the car is moving is a scary thing
Maybe it's just my car, but I find I have to pull up HARD on the e-brake in order to have confidence in it. I'm a pretty strong guy too so I doubt it should take all my strength in order to set the e-brake effectively
Maybe it's just my car, but I find I have to pull up HARD on the e-brake in order to have confidence in it. I'm a pretty strong guy too so I doubt it should take all my strength in order to set the e-brake effectively
11-28-2013, 05:12 PM
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Depends on which way the car wants to roll. On flat ground it doesn't matter. On car facing downhill, use 1st- on uphil use reverse. You want the compression in the cylinders to resist the rolling. In theory, if you do the opposite, the valves will be open and no compression will occur. This may not be much of an issue in reality, however.
11-28-2013, 06:33 PM
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Anybody else find that the e-brakedoesn't hold the car all that well. I've had the car roll on me 2 or 3 times on a VERY slight incline when I forgot to put it in reverse and left it in neutral. Having to jump in a rolling car and yank the e-brake as the car is moving is a scary thing
Maybe it's just my car, but I find I have to pull up HARD on the e-brake in order to have confidence in it. I'm a pretty strong guy too so I doubt it should take all my strength in order to set the e-brake effectively
Maybe it's just my car, but I find I have to pull up HARD on the e-brake in order to have confidence in it. I'm a pretty strong guy too so I doubt it should take all my strength in order to set the e-brake effectively