Nav system nag screen?
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'10
It does, you do, and after months of effort by many talented members on this forum at trying to hack it there is still no way around it. If you don't "agree" the screen never changes from the liability disclaimer. Thank the litigious society and the legal community that feel they need to protect us from ourselves.
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Burning Brakes
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But actually the lawyers are just a symptom of the actual problem. Lawmakers are the real problem. It's the fools in congress that should all be fired for gross managerial malpractice.
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Melting Slicks
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It's pretty silly when you think about it ... but from a corp point of view and with all those frivilous law suits out there better safe than sorry.
Case in point I think we all remember the McDonalds hot coffe suit and how that ended up among others.
Besides you shouldn't be trying to use the navvie while driving anyways, along with answering the cell phone, reading the paper.. etc.
Case in point I think we all remember the McDonalds hot coffe suit and how that ended up among others.
Besides you shouldn't be trying to use the navvie while driving anyways, along with answering the cell phone, reading the paper.. etc.
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What city in the top ten of population has the most lawyers? Washinton, DC--everyone there is a lawyer including the Congress. There is your problem, they have to keep them all in business and in our business.
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In my opinion, the problem goes beyond lawyers and lawmakers, and extends to a good portion of society in general. If there weren't jurors who are willing to listen to these often ridiculous claims and award huge damages in these cases, the automakers wouldn't put this type of "feature" in our cars, knowing that it just ticks most of us off.
It is not the automaker's fault if someone tries to program the nav system while driving and gets into an accident. The driver (and his/her insurance company) should be responsible. But instead, the lawyers (and the victims) go after the "deep pockets" (i.e. the automakers). It is almost a lottery mentality, and after paying off a few of these high dollar cases, it's no wonder that the automakers start mucking up their cars with warning labels, stickers, and nanny screens.
Until the public starts to demand individual accountability instead of using the courts and laws to "punish" corporations for not anticipating every type of harm that can conceivably result from the use of systems in cars (even those that result from boneheaded moves by the driver or occupants) we will see more, not less, of these types of restraints in our cars.
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Until the public starts to demand individual accountability instead of using the courts and laws to "punish" corporations for not anticipating every type of harm that can conceivably result from the use of systems in cars (even those that result from boneheaded moves by the driver or occupants) we will see more, not less, of these types of restraints in our cars.
I can see a huge liability claim coming though - the cupholder section doesn't tell people to put the cup in with the open end facing upwards
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Yes, the navnag is stupid. Yes, we need to kill all the lawyers. But to say that being forced to touch the screen before you can use the touch screen is a deal killer is as bad if not worse. The phrase cutting off your nose to spite your face comes to mind.
BTW, if you stop for gas during a routed trip, when you restart, the HUD still gives turn directions even if you don't touch the screen.
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In my opinion, the problem goes beyond lawyers and lawmakers, and extends to a good portion of society in general. If there weren't jurors who are willing to listen to these often ridiculous claims and award huge damages in these cases, the automakers wouldn't put this type of "feature" in our cars, knowing that it just ticks most of us off.
It is not the automaker's fault if someone tries to program the nav system while driving and gets into an accident. The driver (and his/her insurance company) should be responsible. But instead, the lawyers (and the victims) go after the "deep pockets" (i.e. the automakers). It is almost a lottery mentality, and after paying off a few of these high dollar cases, it's no wonder that the automakers start mucking up their cars with warning labels, stickers, and nanny screens.
Until the public starts to demand individual accountability instead of using the courts and laws to "punish" corporations for not anticipating every type of harm that can conceivably result from the use of systems in cars (even those that result from boneheaded moves by the driver or occupants) we will see more, not less, of these types of restraints in our cars.
It is not the automaker's fault if someone tries to program the nav system while driving and gets into an accident. The driver (and his/her insurance company) should be responsible. But instead, the lawyers (and the victims) go after the "deep pockets" (i.e. the automakers). It is almost a lottery mentality, and after paying off a few of these high dollar cases, it's no wonder that the automakers start mucking up their cars with warning labels, stickers, and nanny screens.
Until the public starts to demand individual accountability instead of using the courts and laws to "punish" corporations for not anticipating every type of harm that can conceivably result from the use of systems in cars (even those that result from boneheaded moves by the driver or occupants) we will see more, not less, of these types of restraints in our cars.
As a lawyer, I cannot, obviously, agree with the "kill all the lawyers" mentality. The lawyers aren't the only ones to blame here - it is every single person out there who does something incredibly stupid (being surprised that coffee is hot and may burn you if you dump it on your crotch) and then expects someone to compensate them for it. Blame the juries who award money for that stupidity. Blame lawmakers for not putting a stop to this nonsense. The list is endless.And, what about every post in this Forum where someone says, "I know....let's screw with the 'stealership' and take them for everything they're worth!"? What about, "I know....let me mod my car, have it break, and they try to get a warranty claim past GM so I don't have to pay for it!"? These people are just as bad, and you know it. Many of those saying, "kill all the lawyers," are the same people who do just this kind of thing.
As for the OP, no - the nag screen cannot be defeated. Just like the DVD slot will not play actual movies. You can thank the idiots that try to watch a movie while driving for that.
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As a lawyer, I cannot, obviously, agree with the "kill all the lawyers" mentality. The lawyers aren't the only ones to blame here - it is every single person out there who does something incredibly stupid (being surprised that coffee is hot and may burn you if you dump it on your crotch) and then expects someone to compensate them for it. Blame the juries who award money for that stupidity. Blame lawmakers for not putting a stop to this nonsense. The list is endless.And, what about every post in this Forum where someone says, "I know....let's screw with the 'stealership' and take them for everything they're worth!"? What about, "I know....let me mod my car, have it break, and they try to get a warranty claim past GM so I don't have to pay for it!"? These people are just as bad, and you know it. Many of those saying, "kill all the lawyers," are the same people who do just this kind of thing.
As for the OP, no - the nag screen cannot be defeated. Just like the DVD slot will not play actual movies. You can thank the idiots that try to watch a movie while driving for that.
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This thread should not be about lawyer bashing rather the simple button. No, we don't like it, but its only a minor thing and in today's society, its understandable. Our cars move quick and even a moment's distraction while driving could be disasterous. If there was a passenger on-board, let them enter the destination information. Of course, then someone would be putting some weight on the passenger seat just to make it work while they were driving alone, still get into a wreck and then go after GM saying they should have prevented the driver from being stupid.
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This thread should not be about lawyer bashing rather the simple button. No, we don't like it, but its only a minor thing and in today's society, its understandable. Our cars move quick and even a moment's distraction while driving could be disasterous. If there was a passenger on-board, let them enter the destination information. Of course, then someone would be putting some weight on the passenger seat just to make it work while they were driving alone, still get into a wreck and then go after GM saying they should have prevented the driver from being stupid.
Burning Brakes
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08
I think I read all the posts, and no one has pointed out that you only touch the "I agree" button, if you are in Nav mode. In radio, xm, or cd mode there is no need to agree with anything.
(at least in my 05 anyway)
anothercrisis
(at least in my 05 anyway)
anothercrisis
Burning Brakes
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