C6 Corvette General Discussion General C6 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Does your LS3....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-10-2020, 02:40 PM
  #1  
bwill03z
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
bwill03z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,732
Received 197 Likes on 171 Posts

Default Does your LS3....

I know LS3 motors tend to be noisy, as most LS motors are, but does your stock LS3 have the “sewing machine” light tick around 1500-2500 rpm’s? I know the Z06’s are notorious for it....and I know a lot of cam and header cars have it but I was surprised to hear it on my bone stock 2011. I really can only hear it with the windows up and radio off and it’s pretty noticeable.
I thought at first I had a loose rocker but everything checks out under the valve cover.
Just curious.
Old 11-10-2020, 04:26 PM
  #2  
jmaci
Advanced
Support Corvetteforum!
 
jmaci's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2015
Location: PNW
Posts: 91
Received 42 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

I had the same problem, turns out it was a loose exhaust manifold bolt, heard the ticking at around 2000 rpm.
Old 11-10-2020, 04:32 PM
  #3  
bwill03z
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
bwill03z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,732
Received 197 Likes on 171 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jmaci
I had the same problem, turns out it was a loose exhaust manifold bolt, heard the ticking at around 2000 rpm.
It’s a little louder on the passenger side so that’s possible, haven’t put a wrench on them yet to check. I’d be surprised if that were it but it could be
Old 11-10-2020, 07:58 PM
  #4  
JABCAT
Race Director
 
JABCAT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2017
Location: Prosper TX/Austin TX
Posts: 10,821
Received 8,774 Likes on 4,221 Posts
2020 C6 of the Year Winner - Modified
Default

My previous ‘12 GS had it & it became more pronounced after I added longtubes. It was so loud that driving into my neighborhood that’s the sound you heard bouncing back off fences over the longtubes and Corsa Xtreme. I thought I had an exhaust leak it was so loud, but nope.
Old 11-10-2020, 08:05 PM
  #5  
bwill03z
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
bwill03z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,732
Received 197 Likes on 171 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by JABCAT
My previous ‘12 GS had it & it became more pronounced after I added longtubes. It was so loud that driving into my neighborhood that’s the sound you heard bouncing back off fences over the longtubes and Corsa Xtreme. I thought I had an exhaust leak it was so loud, but nope.
Yeah, and that’s exactly why I keep hesitating to pull the trigger on ordering some long tubes :/
i know LS motors are noisy and really it’s just the sound of power but damn if it ain’t annoying sometimes and can make ya paranoid.
Old 11-10-2020, 08:11 PM
  #6  
bwill03z
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
bwill03z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,732
Received 197 Likes on 171 Posts

Default

Uploaded a quick video. It’s not bad, but for stock she’s a bit noisy...

Old 11-10-2020, 09:50 PM
  #7  
torquetube
Le Mans Master
 
torquetube's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2004
Location: West coast CA
Posts: 5,151
Received 653 Likes on 472 Posts

Default

Has the sound gotten louder? What's it sound like under the hood?
Old 11-10-2020, 11:30 PM
  #8  
bwill03z
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
bwill03z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,732
Received 197 Likes on 171 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by torquetube
Has the sound gotten louder? What's it sound like under the hood?
Since buying the car back in July I do think it has become slightly louder. Under the hood I don’t hear anything going on at idle that I would consider abnormal but the passenger side is a little bit noisier than the driver side. I popped the hood and had someone do a few revs and it sounds okay to me outside of the car but when driving at lower rpm’s with the windows up I hear a very audible ticking. Might just be LS sewing machine noise but I thought it was kinda loud to be stock
Old 11-11-2020, 07:02 AM
  #9  
BadAV
Race Director
 
BadAV's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Location: Central MO
Posts: 10,630
Received 2,652 Likes on 1,693 Posts

Default

Definitely hear it in your video. Mine doesn't do it.
Old 11-11-2020, 07:37 AM
  #10  
bwill03z
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
bwill03z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,732
Received 197 Likes on 171 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by BadAV
Definitely hear it in your video. Mine doesn't do it.
So yours doesn’t sound like that at all?
Old 11-11-2020, 07:55 AM
  #11  
BadAV
Race Director
 
BadAV's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Location: Central MO
Posts: 10,630
Received 2,652 Likes on 1,693 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bwill03z
So yours doesn’t sound like that at all?
No ticking at all. The whole valvetrain is noisy on cold start but quiets down as soon as the oil starts to warm up a little. My 07 did exactly the same thing (and to a lesser extent, my 03), so I just chalk that up to GM's chosen components for the Corvette engine. The 5.3 in my 02 Avalanche never had the cold start valve train noise, although it started getting a little piston slap at 95k miles (75k miles of which was cammed and pullied down Magnacharged).
Old 11-11-2020, 08:07 AM
  #12  
bwill03z
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
bwill03z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,732
Received 197 Likes on 171 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by BadAV
No ticking at all. The whole valvetrain is noisy on cold start but quiets down as soon as the oil starts to warm up a little. My 07 did exactly the same thing (and to a lesser extent, my 03), so I just chalk that up to GM's chosen components for the Corvette engine. The 5.3 in my 02 Avalanche never had the cold start valve train noise, although it started getting a little piston slap at 95k miles (75k miles of which was cammed and pullied down Magnacharged).
What is your current car? I’ve heard a lot of cammed cars and cars with long tubes sound like mine, but I don’t know any that sound like mine that are bone stock. I’ thinking it’s noisy lifters but there’s a slight chance it’s exhaust related. I wish I could say mine had no ticking :/
I had an 03 Z06 that ticked like hell too and drove me crazy.
Old 11-11-2020, 08:52 AM
  #13  
BadAV
Race Director
 
BadAV's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Location: Central MO
Posts: 10,630
Received 2,652 Likes on 1,693 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bwill03z
What is your current car? I’ve heard a lot of cammed cars and cars with long tubes sound like mine, but I don’t know any that sound like mine that are bone stock. I’ thinking it’s noisy lifters but there’s a slight chance it’s exhaust related. I wish I could say mine had no ticking :/
I had an 03 Z06 that ticked like hell too and drove me crazy.
It's in my profile - Centennial GS vert. No engine mods other than I slightly tweaked the ecm/tcm tuning to my liking with HP Tuners.
Old 11-11-2020, 10:48 PM
  #14  
C3w4sp
Pro
 
C3w4sp's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2000
Location: NE USA
Posts: 668
Received 79 Likes on 57 Posts

Default

Start with a mechanics stethoscope, pin point the source. What I discovered was the fuel injectors are very loud! Through the stethoscope the lifters and valves do have that LS sewing machine sound. However the LS3 injectors are on a different level.

I still find it irritating, but the car continues to deliver. I suspect GM knew this as they put insulation on the back sides of the fuel rail covers to temper the sound. Get a scope a probe around, see if you can zero in on the source.
Old 11-11-2020, 11:14 PM
  #15  
bwill03z
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
bwill03z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,732
Received 197 Likes on 171 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by C3w4sp
Start with a mechanics stethoscope, pin point the source. What I discovered was the fuel injectors are very loud! Through the stethoscope the lifters and valves do have that LS sewing machine sound. However the LS3 injectors are on a different level.

I still find it irritating, but the car continues to deliver. I suspect GM knew this as they put insulation on the back sides of the fuel rail covers to temper the sound. Get a scope a probe around, see if you can zero in on the source.
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ve actually already done this and really couldn’t narrow it down to anything definitive, it sounds like that on both sides of the motor and seems to be pretty consistent on all cylinders. It’s just that I feel like my car should be about what a car with long tubes would sound like but mine is stock. I mean it could be injectors but if so that would be surprising because apparently some other LS3 C6’s are much quieter
Old 11-11-2020, 11:39 PM
  #16  
owc6
Team Owner
 
owc6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 24,546
Received 4,186 Likes on 2,679 Posts

Default

In your video, I hear your sewing machine noise, but I will say none of my LS engines ever sounded like that.

Both of my LT engines do do to the DI.
Old 11-11-2020, 11:44 PM
  #17  
C3w4sp
Pro
 
C3w4sp's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2000
Location: NE USA
Posts: 668
Received 79 Likes on 57 Posts

Default

Did you put the probe directly on the injectors?

Get notified of new replies

To Does your LS3....

Old 11-12-2020, 03:25 AM
  #18  
bwill03z
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
bwill03z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,732
Received 197 Likes on 171 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by C3w4sp
Did you put the probe directly on the injectors?
Yes I did

Originally Posted by owc6
In your video, I hear your sewing machine noise, but I will say none of my LS engines ever sounded like that.

Both of my LT engines do do to the DI.
Any ideas what it might be
Old 11-12-2020, 07:21 AM
  #19  
C3w4sp
Pro
 
C3w4sp's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2000
Location: NE USA
Posts: 668
Received 79 Likes on 57 Posts

Default

Well, at least on mine, listening with the scope, the injectors were easily 2 to 3 times louder than anything else.
Old 11-12-2020, 09:49 AM
  #20  
bwill03z
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
bwill03z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,732
Received 197 Likes on 171 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by C3w4sp
Well, at least on mine, listening with the scope, the injectors were easily 2 to 3 times louder than anything else.
I’m going to try again with a stethoscope and have someone do some light revs but I don’t see why the injector noise would vary so much from car to car.
I have the worst freaking luck with getting LS cars with noisy motors!


Quick Reply: Does your LS3....



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:15 AM.