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Old 02-17-2009, 04:54 PM
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New Information. I've edited the following into Post #1 on the thread....

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Update February 17, 2009
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Today I spent time at the workbench with two Chevy master technicians (one who’s worked on Corvettes since the C3 was first released). We examined the operation of the Corvette clutch actuator and concluded following:

1. The bell housing is fouled with blown clutch dust during aggressive driving.
2. Clutch dust is penetrating the accordion shield on the actuator main shaft. That is obvious from visual inspection.
3. The piston slides along the shaft sealed by an O-ring. The shaft has a film of lubricant or clutch fluid on it. During aggressive driving, this film gets coated on each stroke with a fine layer of blow clutch dust. That is obvious from visual inspection.
4. The O-ring slides along the shaft and squeegees some of the clutch dust down the shaft where it contacts the clutch fluid and is infused.
5. The conclusions were unanimous and seemed obvious from a physical exam of the surfaces involved.

Plus, keep in mind that it is confirmed that clutch dust is getting into the fluid. The question is how. We believe the answer to that is in points 1-5 above.

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Old 02-17-2009, 05:43 PM
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Ranger, just wanted to say thanks for the heads up. I would have never known. Just finished mine this afternoon and it was just as easy as you made it look. Got all the materials at wal-mart and everything worked great. Thanks again .
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I presume prestone brake fluid dot 4 is an acceptable replacement?
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New Information. I've edited the following into Post #1 on the thread....

Plus, keep in mind that it is confirmed that clutch dust in getting into the fluid. The question is how. We believe the answer to that is in points 1-5 above.

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That's been a very helpful discovery. None of my other cars ever had this problem, so I guess this is a characteristic of modern Corvettes transmission/clutch design and location. I'd noticed the dirtying of the fluid since the first week I had my C6 and had always supposed it was leaching from black rubber lines or some such.

Now that we know for sure it's clutch dust, we can prevent the failures associated with having that abrasive in the system by replacing it as needed.

You detailed that the engine compartment reservoir replacement strategy is effective, and that the design (small volume capacity and substantial displacement during usage) is such that it can be cleaned out in a short time, using inexpensive and commonly available Prestone DOT 4 brake fluid, and without special tools (bleeders) or the need to get under the car.

My car is just 8 months old, and I expect to be keeping it for many years. I'm glad this potential trouble area is now covered by my DIY maintenance program.
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Thanks Ranger!
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Old 02-18-2009, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BAMF AE View Post
I presume prestone brake fluid dot 4 is an acceptable replacement?
Hi BAMF AE,

Prestone DOT4 is in my video because I have used it and verified it works well in a Corvette clutch hydraulics. There are other good fluids out there. But I only recommend those I have personally checked out.

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Where can you get the remote bleeder from? Also using the remote bleeder do you open it up and then the cap on the reservoir and let it gravity bleed?

I asked the question in the same thread in the tech section about is there a way to hose the inside of the bell housing down with some brake dust remover for wheels to reduce the amount of dust?

I assume the powder residue on the back of the car after driving it is the clutch dust huh?

Where did you say you got the extractor?
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:38 AM
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Thanks , makes sense to me.
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Last but not least......YOU'RE AWESOME!!!! A major asset to the corvette community! I cant thank you enough! I worked on it last night, and it took approximately 4 cycles to get it from black to clear. I will continue to check on it regularly.

If it gets murky in the next couple of days, then that means I didn't cycle it enough, and will just have to repeat the process until it stays clear for at least a week.

I'll keep you posted!

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Ranger, Thanks a lot for the info. I just did my vette no problems. It is as easy as you say. I looked at my owners manual and it does not even list checking the clutch fluid on a regular basis. In fact it states that it is not necessary to regularly check clutch fluid unless you suspect there is a leak in the system. You may have just prevented me from having a problem with my clutch. Once again thanks a much.
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Old 02-18-2009, 07:11 PM
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Checked mine last night .OMG, couldn't belive how dirty the fluid was, and i only have 9K on my 08 . Thank you for the GREAT information.
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Ranger,

Great info! I checked mine after reading & watching your post last night and when I got home from work I checked the fluid. Sure enough, with less then 2200 miles on the clock, the fluid needs replacing.

Priceless information!

Thanks for that.
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I forgot to ask...once this procedure is completed..how long should the fluid remain clear? days, weeks.....
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Originally Posted by BAMF AE View Post
I forgot to ask...once this procedure is completed..how long should the fluid remain clear? days, weeks.....
That depends mainly on your driving habits.

My video at 6:28 provides the guidance on repeats.

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Old 03-29-2009, 01:24 AM
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Added this thread to the C6 FAQ under Fluids and Maintenance.
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Just checked on the price for GM's brake/clutch fluid . . . $18.00??? Prestone it is for me.
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Thanks for this great info. I picked up all the materials tonight. One question - is there a recommended "fill level" marked on the reservoir? I looked but didn't see anything. Thx.
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:16 PM
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Just checked on the price for GM's brake/clutch fluid . . . $18.00??? Prestone it is for me.
oh yeah - the Prestone works just fine...
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Thanks for this great info. I picked up all the materials tonight. One question - is there a recommended "fill level" marked on the reservoir? I looked but didn't see anything. Thx.
half way between the max and min line or a wee bit more should be just fine. Check it after a tank of gas.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Vette junkie View Post
COOL! Where can I find one of those jumbo reverse hypodermic thingies that was used to suck out the dirty fluid? Last time I did mine I used a turkey baster. It worked but not as good as the one in the video.

I picked up a 60cc irrigation syringe at a medical supply place. Cost was about $1.50
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