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Old 05-31-2009, 09:37 PM
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Been reading the threads about the SAHS light coming up on the DIC. Mine just did it tonight, 06 with 3LT. I've never moved the steering column except to position it the one time. Had the car about two months now. Going to call the dealer tomorrow to see if they installed the clips or not since I know the history on the car and where it was serviced at.

The only thing different with my situation is that when I got home, I turned the car off. Then went to start it back up to see if the SAHS was still on. The car went through the entire startup procedure, except it didn't actually engage the engine. The dash lit up...guages went all the way full then back, "Corvette by Chevrolet" scrolled across the DIC...but the engine didn't try to turn over. It's like it did everything except engage the engine part of the sequence.

I opened the door, closed it, re-engaged the clutch and tried again and it started right up, without the SAHS message. Drove it around for a few minutes and didn't get the error anymore.

If the TSB hasn't been done to my car then I think I'll give the DIY fix a try. If the SAHS comes on again then I'll take it into the dealer.
Old 06-01-2009, 02:36 PM
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I had the "no start" situation happen once, maybe twice, in 43k miles. Hard to be sure, but both times I think I tapped ths start button VERY quickly, instead of holding it for about 1/2 second like i usually do. Hey, it's just a computer.
Old 06-01-2009, 02:54 PM
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Well you are fortunate it didnt happen while you were driving as it did for me, I paid 147.00 for the repacement of the swps,this concerned me so much I made a formal compaint with the nhtsa its not something to take litley
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My incident did happen while I was driving (sort of hard to drive with the car shut off). But...I was stopped at a stop sign waiting to turn when the DIC indicated a problem. That seemed strange, so I wasn't overly concerned even though I was very cautious driving back to the house.

Haven't had a chance to call the dealer where this car was serviced prior to my buying it to find out if the TSB has been performed on it, however, the SAHS hasn't come back on yet either. I'm fairly convinced it was just a computer glitch...but will still be checking it out.
Old 06-01-2009, 03:38 PM
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Im sorry I should have been more specific if this happened while you are in the flow of traffic,btw tsb arnt warranty item,it is more of an elective service,basically if you tell the dealer there is a tsb on my swps (not a recall) I was told its an elective repair so it was out of pocket expense due to my bumper to bumper time has elapsed,when it happened to me it felt my car was possesed driving around 45-50mph,verry lucky no got hurt,I dont feel as if this is a glitch,and there is a diy fix for swps,not that I couldnt do the fix myself I felt more comfortable taking to the dealer for this issue
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I purchased an extended warranty (insurance policy) through my CU that will cover it. Even if it didn't, I'd be happy to pay for it to prevent an instance at speed.

But...I suspect it isn't an issue related to the TSB.
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Stopped by Advance Auto on the way home...no codes stored, which is what I expected. I'm confident now it was just a gremlin in the computer system, but I will be careful to watch it for a while. If it happens again then off to the shop it goes.
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Ok...took three weeks for it to happen again. This time at work...leaving for lunch, slow speed, hard right turn...bang, SAHS comes on. Stop...turn everything off....open the door...close it...start back up, drive a few hundred feet...bang, back on. Hmmm...across the street to Advance Auto...no codes...zero, zilch..nada. Head on down to get lunch...back, pulling into my parking spot...bang, back on.

So, I'm not going to take any chances and will be taking it in to make sure or redo the latest TSB about the harness on the column. But...I did put it into comp mode and am curious if it will happen again when I leave for the day.
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For those that might be interested, bought the clip from the local Chevy dealer at lunch, and will be installing it this weekend to try to correct this. If the SAHS displays again, I'm going to shop it. Here's the $10 fix from GM:

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I would encourage you to have the codes read on the car's OBDII.

The DIY fix and the TSB are specific to one particular issue surrounding the wire harness for the steering wheel position sensor (SWPS). Service AH/TC lights will come on for a number of other issues with the operation or communication of the active handling system including well out of balance tire pressures to wheel speed sensors to faulty SWPS to ABS sensors, etc, etc.

Before you embark on a fix, it might be prudent to determine exactly what the problem was that set the code in the first place.
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I've had it read twice from Advance Auto...both times, no code, with the latest being Tuesday while the code was actually displayed on the DIC.

In both instances where the code has appeared it has done so at slow speeds. Tuesday happened while I was turning hard right out of my parking spot, the first time rolling up to a stop sign and slowly turning right.

I'm fairly confident that this will fix it. The cars history shows the sensor in the steering column being replaced twice...I think all along it's been this connector and it's propensity to corrode. If after I do this fix the problem returns I will take it straight into the shop.
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I've had it read twice from Advance Auto...both times, no code, with the latest being Tuesday while the code was actually displayed on the DIC.

In both instances where the code has appeared it has done so at slow speeds. Tuesday happened while I was turning hard right out of my parking spot, the first time rolling up to a stop sign and slowly turning right.

I'm fairly confident that this will fix it. The cars history shows the sensor in the steering column being replaced twice...I think all along it's been this connector and it's propensity to corrode. If after I do this fix the problem returns I will take it straight into the shop.
Good to know. The wire loom (as pictured) does work for the SWPS connector issue. This I know for a fact. My 2005 exhibited the SAHS code along with the standard stored DTC. I had the dealer do the TSB fix (for reference it took 25 minutes and cost me $41.00 part included). This was over two years ago and I've not had a problem since.
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I'm one of those DIY'ers that are dumb enough to try it themselves...but smart enough to stop if I can't fix it.

I was just reading about the ODB readers...they say to put the car into ON mode but not actually starting it up. The first time I had it scanned he put it into ACC mode and Tuesday the car was running...I wonder if I need to stop on the way home now that I know how to put it into ON mode and have it read again? Or should it have read it properly while the car was running?
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Originally Posted by lander
I'm one of those DIY'ers that are dumb enough to try it themselves...but smart enough to stop if I can't fix it.

I was just reading about the ODB readers...they say to put the car into ON mode but not actually starting it up. The first time I had it scanned he put it into ACC mode and Tuesday the car was running...I wonder if I need to stop on the way home now that I know how to put it into ON mode and have it read again? Or should it have read it properly while the car was running?
I always recommend reading codes in ignition on / engine off mode. Look for C0710 in history.
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Ok, I'll stop on the way home and have it read one more time..if C0710 is there, I'll go ahead with my DIY.

Thanks, as always.
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Ok, got the parts off so I can get at the wiring...but I'm not sure where this clip goes. I think it's the connector that I have faintly circled in red in this picture, but the clip doesn't easily fit onto it, so I'm not sure. I snipped a wire tie that was just above this connector, which from this post http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...lfunction.html, seems to indicate the connection I'm working on is the right one...

Any ideas?

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The thread mentioned above is not talking about the same connector as the current TSB.

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Here's a thread that might help:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ng-in-dic.html

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Interesting...that looks like it's actually plugging into something on the steering column vs the harness that I linked to...back out to look some more.

Thanks.
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Found it...had to take another trip piece off as the connection is further forward than I thought. But...it's already had the '06 TSB applied as the connection is taped and wire tied. I'll use the clip I have but it's going to have to go into the shop and have further inspection if the SAHS comes on any more...the code readers from Advance Auto aren't showing any codes at all.

Thanks again!
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Facade's thread is a good one. The connector is under the steering column sort of at the base of the column from where you are and should be able to be accessed from the IP closeout panel. The new clip will push down from the top of the connector and it is designed to clip in but press down on the wires from behind.


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