Interesting Conversation With Nissan GTR Owner.
06-14-2009, 09:08 PM
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06-14-2009, 09:16 PM
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Americans have a right to a opinion. I have yet to hear Obama comment on this point though and I may be wrong. So for now we are still allowed a opinion here in America. Just like some people may find Rosie Odonnell attractive. Yet, others will not. For me the GTR is the Rosie Odonnell of cars.
I like and love many models of cars. Nowhere is it written if you have passion for automobiles you must agree on all of them. Somehow I along with several members find the GTR either copied, bland, or just plain ugly. This is what they call opinion. Some of you may even have a wife or girlfriend that you think is attractive. Yet, when she walks down the street people turn their heads away. Looks are subject to the eyes of the beholder.
And yet we also have many that click on a thread and then cry about what is on it and saying it's just so sad
. Please this is a public forum where people have opinions. What kind of forum would it be if we all agreed? Now that would indeed be sad. Maybe those of you that complain about opinions should take your computers and log on in China. Then come back and tell us how sad opinions are then.
I like and love many models of cars. Nowhere is it written if you have passion for automobiles you must agree on all of them. Somehow I along with several members find the GTR either copied, bland, or just plain ugly. This is what they call opinion. Some of you may even have a wife or girlfriend that you think is attractive. Yet, when she walks down the street people turn their heads away. Looks are subject to the eyes of the beholder.
And yet we also have many that click on a thread and then cry about what is on it and saying it's just so sad
. Please this is a public forum where people have opinions. What kind of forum would it be if we all agreed? Now that would indeed be sad. Maybe those of you that complain about opinions should take your computers and log on in China. Then come back and tell us how sad opinions are then.
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06-14-2009, 09:23 PM
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06-14-2009, 09:28 PM
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I have to disagree with your comment about how the 'kids" running around in their "riced out" cars are delusional.
My son drives an '04 Subaru WRX that we have modified. I have become extremely impressed with a couple of their web site forums, and how much these "kids" have learned about their cars. These guys and girls have their passion for tweaking their cars down to a science.
They also impressed me with how open and ready they are to help anyone else who is in need of assistance, which fortunately, is similar to the Corvette Forum. But, most of them are also just into cars no matter what flavor. I have never had anyone on their forums say anything but positive things about my ZO6.
My son drives an '04 Subaru WRX that we have modified. I have become extremely impressed with a couple of their web site forums, and how much these "kids" have learned about their cars. These guys and girls have their passion for tweaking their cars down to a science.
They also impressed me with how open and ready they are to help anyone else who is in need of assistance, which fortunately, is similar to the Corvette Forum. But, most of them are also just into cars no matter what flavor. I have never had anyone on their forums say anything but positive things about my ZO6.
Well what a coincidence. I park my 2008 Corvette next to my 2004 WRX. Mine has also been heavily worked over, especially in the suspension department in the name of getting around the autox course faster. I learned a ton from the Suby forums and have done all my suspension work myself. I may also be referred to as a kid since I'm only 25.
That being said thank you for calling me out. In my attempt to tell someone to open their automotive mind I showed that even mine is partially closed. Unfortunately I just have too much fun bashing worked Civics.
06-14-2009, 09:35 PM
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Well what a coincidence. I park my 2008 Corvette next to my 2004 WRX. Mine has also been heavily worked over, especially in the suspension department in the name of getting around the autox course faster. I learned a ton from the Suby forums and have done all my suspension work myself. I may also be referred to as a kid since I'm only 25.
That being said thank you for calling me out. In my attempt to tell someone to open their automotive mind I showed that even mine is partially closed. Unfortunately I just have too much fun bashing worked Civics.
That being said thank you for calling me out. In my attempt to tell someone to open their automotive mind I showed that even mine is partially closed. Unfortunately I just have too much fun bashing worked Civics.
I tell you what is really sad. When a open mind to others is only when you agree with them.
06-14-2009, 09:37 PM
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FACT! 
I will now digress as I have jacked the OPs thread. Many apologies.
The Vette is and always will be my favorite car. However, if a car goes like stink, burns corners, and looks fast even when sitting still, I probably love it too.
I have officially been put in check for the evening.
I will now digress as I have jacked the OPs thread. Many apologies.
The Vette is and always will be my favorite car. However, if a car goes like stink, burns corners, and looks fast even when sitting still, I probably love it too.
Originally Posted by Vette Suspension
I tell you what is really sad. When a open mind to others is only when you agree with them.
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06-14-2009, 09:44 PM
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Bigger, Blacker, Faster
And we surely have yours... We got it... You think the GTR is ugly... OK... AND???
To address the OP... isn't it cool how Japan and America can go at a problem totally different (pushrod v-8 / twin turbo 6) but in the end wind up with something so similar. (and ugly according to Vette Suspension)
I kinda think that some of the younger crowd will go the route of twin turbo'ing the new 300hp v-6 camaro's. It sure would be interesting!!!
To address the OP... isn't it cool how Japan and America can go at a problem totally different (pushrod v-8 / twin turbo 6) but in the end wind up with something so similar. (and ugly according to Vette Suspension)
I kinda think that some of the younger crowd will go the route of twin turbo'ing the new 300hp v-6 camaro's. It sure would be interesting!!!
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06-14-2009, 09:48 PM
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And we surely have your... We got it... You think the GTR is ugly... OK... AND???
To address the OP... isn't it cool how Japan and America can go at a problem totally different (pushrod v-8 / twin turbo 6) but in the end wind up with something so similar. (and ugly according to Vette Suspension)
I kinda think that some of the younger crowd will go the route of twin turbo'ing the new 300hp v-6 camaro's. It sure would be interesting!!!
To address the OP... isn't it cool how Japan and America can go at a problem totally different (pushrod v-8 / twin turbo 6) but in the end wind up with something so similar. (and ugly according to Vette Suspension)
I kinda think that some of the younger crowd will go the route of twin turbo'ing the new 300hp v-6 camaro's. It sure would be interesting!!!
06-14-2009, 09:57 PM
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Bigger, Blacker, Faster
But it doesn't matter to me... I'm a car guy. I like em both... But the ingenuity nod goes to Nissan. How in the he** did they get a car that is that big to go that fast???
And for the record... I don't think the GTR is ugly. In fact, my buddy that owns one (the GTR that you see in my pics) also owns a Buell 1125CR. I think they complement each other nicely. (BTW i'll be getting a black 1125CR to match my vette come next week)
06-14-2009, 09:57 PM
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To address the OP... isn't it cool how Japan and America can go at a problem totally different (pushrod v-8 / twin turbo 6) but in the end wind up with something so similar. (and ugly according to Vette Suspension)
I kinda think that some of the younger crowd will go the route of twin turbo'ing the new 300hp v-6 camaro's. It sure would be interesting!!!
I kinda think that some of the younger crowd will go the route of twin turbo'ing the new 300hp v-6 camaro's. It sure would be interesting!!!
06-14-2009, 10:04 PM
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This has nothing to do with demand. And believe it or not, the ZR1 selling for 15k over invoice is actually hurting the brand more than it is helping. GM needs to sell cars right now, not have them sit on car lots because greedy stealers are holding out for more money. In any case, then the GTR was FIRST released, it sold AT invoice. I don't have the numbers to prove it, but i would venture to say that Nissan has sold many more GTR's than chevrolet has ZR1's. Not to mention that out of the gate the ZR1 is 40k+ more expensive. Now when the GTR V-spec comes out some time next year... That will be closer to the selling price of a ZR1... In fact, i believe it is supposed to go for something like 160k.
But it doesn't matter to me... I'm a car guy. I like em both... But the ingenuity nod goes to Nissan. How in the he** did they get a car that is that big to go that fast???
And for the record... I don't think the GTR is ugly. In fact, my buddy that owns one (the GTR that you see in my pics) also owns a Buell 1125CR. I think they complement each other nicely. (BTW i'll be getting a black 1125CR to match my vette come next week)
But it doesn't matter to me... I'm a car guy. I like em both... But the ingenuity nod goes to Nissan. How in the he** did they get a car that is that big to go that fast???
And for the record... I don't think the GTR is ugly. In fact, my buddy that owns one (the GTR that you see in my pics) also owns a Buell 1125CR. I think they complement each other nicely. (BTW i'll be getting a black 1125CR to match my vette come next week)
So a car guy must like both cars then?
Here ya go pal. It's right up your alley. Have at it.
http://www.gtrforums.com/
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06-14-2009, 10:12 PM
#75
Bigger, Blacker, Faster
Nope... Like what you want... But the performance is UNDENIABLE!!!
Notice, I said i was a car guy... Not a corvette guy. My eyes can see past the nose of my C6... Believe it or not, i actually considered purchasing other cars before i bought my vette. whoa I must be a sinner in your book. lol
Below is the list of vehicles that i considered before i bought my C6.
SRT-10 dodge ram
SRT-10 viper
Mercedes CLS
Pontiac G8
Z06
They are all different, but the one thing that they all have in common is performance.
Notice, I said i was a car guy... Not a corvette guy. My eyes can see past the nose of my C6... Believe it or not, i actually considered purchasing other cars before i bought my vette. whoa I must be a sinner in your book. lol
Below is the list of vehicles that i considered before i bought my C6.
SRT-10 dodge ram
SRT-10 viper
Mercedes CLS
Pontiac G8
Z06
They are all different, but the one thing that they all have in common is performance.
06-14-2009, 10:17 PM
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Nope... Like what you want... But the performance is UNDENIABLE!!!
Notice, I said i was a car guy... Not a corvette guy. My eyes can see past the nose of my C6... Believe it or not, i actually considered purchasing other cars before i bought my vette. whoa I must be a sinner in your book. lol
Below is the list of vehicles that i considered before i bought my C6.
SRT-10 dodge ram
SRT-10 viper
Mercedes CLS
Pontiac G8
Z06
They are all different, but the one thing that they all have in common is performance.
Notice, I said i was a car guy... Not a corvette guy. My eyes can see past the nose of my C6... Believe it or not, i actually considered purchasing other cars before i bought my vette. whoa I must be a sinner in your book. lol
Below is the list of vehicles that i considered before i bought my C6.
SRT-10 dodge ram
SRT-10 viper
Mercedes CLS
Pontiac G8
Z06
They are all different, but the one thing that they all have in common is performance.
Success for the Vette you ask? How about 1.5 million sold? Not bad for a 2 seat car with a 55 year legacy.
06-15-2009, 08:37 AM
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St. Jude Donor '09-'11
for me.Given a choice...I'll take the Z06.
06-15-2009, 08:39 AM
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Drifting
You are going off of youtube, and i am going off of experience. Have you even seen a GTR, let alone driven or ridden in one? I am no GTR fanboy, hell I OWN A C6! With that being said, opinions are like... Well you know. And experience a definite lesson teacher. All I can say is go out to your local track day, and find out for yourself.
I can assure you that properly driven bolt on C6 will do quite well, especially one running high 11s and trapping in the high teens. I can also assure you that they get small pretty quick right now.
If you are trying to run GTRs from a dig with RFs than than of course there will be issues.
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06-15-2009, 09:52 AM
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06-15-2009, 10:10 AM
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Pulled up to the gas pump in my vette yesterday and a late model viper pulled up behind me. As I passed his car on the way in to pay I told him I liked his car and we had a nice chat for a couple of minutes about our cars. Not sure why certain guys have to be dicks. I even passed a young guy driving a new Cobra mustang yesterday and he and his passenger double taked as I passed and gave me a big smile. I gave him a thumbs up and we both laughed.