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Old 08-17-2009, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TEXHAWK0
The Mobil 1 bottles I have read recently do not say they meet the GM 4718M spec, while Castol EDGE, Valvoline Synpower, and Quaker State synthetic do list the spec.
Castrol and Valvoline both claim they provide better wear protection than Mobil 1, and technically Mobil 1 does not even pass the wear test.
At one time, only the "regular" M1 in 5W-30 and 10W-30 were approved. The approved list has expanded somewhat but still does not include many of the M1 formulations. They might actually meet the spec but are not listed that way.
Also, I have heard that GM4718M is mostly related to high temperature stability, not wear protection. Can anyone check that?

But as 4thC4at60 posted above, using something better than M1 could keep your engine from being worn out after only 300,000 miles.
Old 08-17-2009, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedsvet
4718M is all that matters to me. nothing less. one thing that 4718M takes in consideration is heat. dyno oils cannot handle it. 4718M can.
I agree if it meets 4718M then it works. But which 4718M to choose? That's personal preference. I'd rather support BP or Shell than ExxonMobil but that is based on some choices (like ExxonMobil not using Double Hull Oil Ships) and other factors.

It's like using Shell, BP, or ExxonMobil Gas.
Old 08-17-2009, 12:30 PM
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So my engine will go 1,600,000 miles with the Castrol instead of the 200,000 with Mobil One...
Old 08-18-2009, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 2xmks
I run Mobil 1 in my vette. I ran Castrol in my track car. I've had no issues with either. In the end, my personal opinion is that in either case we are all gonna be just fine.

(But you know what they say about oninions )
What exactly do they say about oninions ?????
Old 08-18-2009, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedsvet
4718M is all that matters to me. nothing less. one thing that 4718M takes in consideration is heat. dyno oils cannot handle it. 4718M can.
That's why GM started putting synthetic in Vettes in the first place. I believe M1 was the only synthetic on the market at the time.
Old 08-18-2009, 08:16 PM
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I use whatever is onsale. Just so happened to be Mobil 1 last time. 5qt + filter for $19.99, can't beat that anywhere.
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Originally Posted by N8sFavToy
I use whatever is onsale. Just so happened to be Mobil 1 last time. 5qt + filter for $19.99, can't beat that anywhere.
What the... I just paid 45+
Old 08-21-2009, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 2xmks
What the... I just paid 45+
Its the California rip off special. Everything costs more out here...
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All these oils comparing themselves to Mobil 1 reminds me of all the car owners that like to say their car is faster than a Corvette.

Nothing like being so good that you're the yardstick for everyone else.
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Originally Posted by 427435
All these oils comparing themselves to Mobil 1 reminds me of all the car owners that like to say their car is faster than a Corvette.

Nothing like being so good that you're the yardstick for everyone else.
I would never go as far as saying Mobil 1 is the "yardstick" that others measure up to. Their marketing department has done a fantastic job in making the world believe they are the best synthetic oil out there, but they really aren't.

It's a good oil, but it's far from being the best.
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Meh....It did 8 times better in an obscure "wear" test...It doesn't mean it is 8 times better oil imo........I mean it probably more like the 8 times equal the difference between a million and a million one...

I mean really....how good can a oil be when a midget runs around smacking you on the bass with a DIPSTICK Jimmy... trying to sell the product.
Old 08-21-2009, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkgfr
Meh....It did 8 times better in an obscure "wear" test...It doesn't mean it is 8 times better oil imo........I mean it probably more like the 8 times equal the difference between a million and a million one...

I mean really....how good can a oil be when a midget runs around smacking you on the bass with a DIPSTICK Jimmy... trying to sell the product.

It's all advertising hyp and I'd like to smack that phony Scotsman with a real big stick.
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Originally Posted by Patman
I would never go as far as saying Mobil 1 is the "yardstick" that others measure up to.
Then why do the other oil companies compare their products to Mobil !??
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Originally Posted by 427435
Then why do the other oil companies compare their products to Mobil !??
It was one of the first, if not the first, fully synthetic oil. So obviously it will draw comparisions as it was the "standard" to which all others made their product to.
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Originally Posted by 427435
Then why do the other oil companies compare their products to Mobil !??
Because those oil companies know that thanks to Mobil 1's many years in the business, and fantastic saturation of the market, that the driving public perceives them as being the best. Nobody has a higher market share than Mobil 1 worldwide, nobody is even close. So that's why other oil companies are doing this.
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Originally Posted by Easy Rhino
Never had any car engine fail due to the selection of the oil used, in over 40 years of owning and driving cars.

Not saying that you should use vegetable oil, just sayin' . . . .
I lived in B.C. and know one of the NASCAR engine builders.
The fact is all nascar teams use Mobil 1 in their engines no matter what their sponsors are.
Castol GTX is the best dinosaurs engine oil, Castol Syntec is NOT synthetic. Mobil 1 is. Think what you want, the fact is Mobil 1 is way better protection is you engine no matter what it's in.
This is not an opinion. It is fact!

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No matter what, change your oil once a year at a minimum.

Above for the garage queens.

And, if you haven't, read the oil section in the manual.

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Originally Posted by LS3 MN6
I agree if it meets 4718M then it works. But which 4718M to choose? That's personal preference. I'd rather support BP or Shell than ExxonMobil but that is based on some choices (like ExxonMobil not using Double Hull Oil Ships) and other factors.

It's like using Shell, BP, or ExxonMobil Gas.
Sorry you are wrong about ExxonMobil not using double hull ships.That starting changing years ago Just sayin
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Originally Posted by 427435
All these oils comparing themselves to Mobil 1 reminds me of all the car owners that like to say their car is faster than a Corvette.

Nothing like being so good that you're the yardstick for everyone else.
Old 02-12-2014, 01:32 PM
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Since were talking oil, does anyone have any experience with the Pennzoil Ultra oil? Now that my GM certified free oil changes are up, I'm switching to Ultra. I've always had great results with Pennzoil in my other cars.


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