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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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In a post about a CF members tunnel plate causing a vibration problem,it came to light that the actual problem was that he had a set of kook's headers installed and he found the right side header was hitting(jambed tight against the frame ) and causing the vibration. He also had picture's in his post of this condition. He was told by his installer that they have seen other cases of kook's headers hitting this area and were going to install ARH in there place. My concern is that I have just purchased a set of kook's headers and xpipe(still in the box unopened) and I am afraid that this could happen to me. I intend to call kook's before I go foward with this prodject.Has anyone else had this problem with kook' headers? My vette is a 2006 conv.LS2. His is a 2009 LS3 Coupe.Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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I had a similar problem on the right side with Kooks headers but it rubbed a hole in the manual transmission cooler line! Drips of oil appeared behind my car when it was moving but not when stopped. It took a few days to get it on a hoist at the dealer who called in a panic. No tranny problems one year after though. We had to replace the lines and bend them away from the collector.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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I had that problem,only it was with ARH HEADERS!I think it's more a C6 design thing then a header design thing.The fix is pretty simple.Just grind a little off till it's clear of it's surroundings.Did that on my 05 and it was fine after that.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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I had the same problem but with ARH, I did the same, ground the frame just enough to clear. Also had to move the auto trans lines a little to get air space around. Installed in March, no problems since.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ydeer
In a post about a CF members tunnel plate causing a vibration problem,it came to light that the actual problem was that he had a set of kook's headers installed and he found the right side header was hitting(jambed tight against the frame ) and causing the vibration. He also had picture's in his post of this condition. He was told by his installer that they have seen other cases of kook's headers hitting this area and were going to install ARH in there place. My concern is that I have just purchased a set of kook's headers and xpipe(still in the box unopened) and I am afraid that this could happen to me. I intend to call kook's before I go foward with this prodject.Has anyone else had this problem with kook' headers? My vette is a 2006 conv.LS2. His is a 2009 LS3 Coupe.Any input would be greatly appreciated.
I don't think it's necessarily the norm. However make sure the decking on the top of the headers is completely flat as well. Plus make sure your installer will inform you about any clearance issues they run into on the install.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 08crm
I think it's more a C6 design thing then a header design thing.
I don't know if I agree with you there. A C6 is a C6. The headers are designed to fit around the engine/exhaust bay. If they don't it's a bad bend and/or decking regarding those with exhaust leaks.
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Hello arcticZ51 My name is George Rumore. I work here at Kooks Custom Headers. This is the first I have heard of your issue. We stand behind what we produce 100%. But how can I correct the problem for you when I do not receive a phone call until this morning. Then I come on here and there is a bash session going on already before you the consumer has not even made any attempt of contacting us to rectify your situation. It makes it very difficult to help you if we are not informed. What it looks like to me is that the header has possible sprung on the fixture during assemble. It is possible that is what happens seeing all our stuff is made by hand by some of the most skilled welders in the industry. But things can some time slip through the cracks it only human nature. But I see that you are not giving us the chance in anyway shape or form to rectify this for you. If you would like to discuss this with me please call my direct office at 704 768 2271.
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I don't know if I agree with you there. A C6 is a C6. The headers are designed to fit around the engine/exhaust bay. If they don't it's a bad bend and/or decking regarding those with exhaust leaks.
You might be right,you might be wrong,I don't know.All I know is that my ARH headers did the same thing your KOOKS headers are doing.Why is that?At any rate the fix is a simple one with no "side effects".I see I'm not the only one that's had the fix either.
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Originally Posted by GeorgeR@kooks
Hello arcticZ51 My name is George Rumore. I work here at Kooks Custom Headers. This is the first I have heard of your issue. We stand behind what we produce 100%. But how can I correct the problem for you when I do not receive a phone call until this morning. Then I come on here and there is a bash session going on already before you the consumer has not even made any attempt of contacting us to rectify your situation. It makes it very difficult to help you if we are not informed. What it looks like to me is that the header has possible sprung on the fixture during assemble. It is possible that is what happens seeing all our stuff is made by hand by some of the most skilled welders in the industry. But things can some time slip through the cracks it only human nature. But I see that you are not giving us the chance in anyway shape or form to rectify this for you. If you would like to discuss this with me please call my direct office at 704 768 2271.
ECS and kooks are really stepping up here. I would go ahead and install your kooks headers. I LOVE mine.
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Originally Posted by GeorgeR@kooks
Hello arcticZ51 My name is George Rumore. I work here at Kooks Custom Headers. This is the first I have heard of your issue. We stand behind what we produce 100%. But how can I correct the problem for you when I do not receive a phone call until this morning. Then I come on here and there is a bash session going on already before you the consumer has not even made any attempt of contacting us to rectify your situation. It makes it very difficult to help you if we are not informed. What it looks like to me is that the header has possible sprung on the fixture during assemble. It is possible that is what happens seeing all our stuff is made by hand by some of the most skilled welders in the industry. But things can some time slip through the cracks it only human nature. But I see that you are not giving us the chance in anyway shape or form to rectify this for you. If you would like to discuss this with me please call my direct office at 704 768 2271.
Hello again George- rather than cut-n-paste, I replied to the same post of yours on the other thread:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1575423113-post22.html
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Guys, The ARH headers clear everything the way they were designed to. There is one place where the clearance can be tight particularly with our 1-7/8" headers. It is clearly mentioned in our installation sheet that minor clearancing of the sheet metal lip on the drivers side may be necessary as the lip protrudes off the frame inconsistantly from vehicle to vehicle. We've sold thousands of Vette headers over the course of 5 years and this occasional minor tweak is well documented. Anyone that knows our systems well will tell you that our collector placement was key to achieve the primary and collector length we desired while giving us the opportunity to connect directly inline with our X-pipe. There's a method to our madness that's more than proven it's success.

Keep in mind that I'm more than willing to discuss with anyone in detail that's interested in going with an ARH system exactly why we build our systems the way we do. Thanks.

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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 01:54 AM
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I had a set of Kooks on my 2000 FRC Corvette and they had no clearance issues at all, first I've heard on a C6 though.
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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I have a 2006 convertible with automatic tranny. I installed Kooks without any issues. Did however have to bend the cooling lines up about a 1/4 inch because they were laying on the header pipe. I also installed the insulation tape on the lines. Kooks have been on about a year without any issues.
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thank you all your input. I will proceed with my install and see what happens.The input about the trans. lines is very helpfull as I have seen other post that say the same thing about the lines. thankyou
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Originally Posted by arcticZ51
I don't know if I agree with you there. A C6 is a C6. The headers are designed to fit around the engine/exhaust bay. If they don't it's a bad bend and/or decking regarding those with exhaust leaks.
You don't design a car to fit the header....
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2 1/2 years running Kooks 1 3/4" headers/X-pipe/cats and while the trans lines are tight the system i have has had no issues.
Your results may vary.

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