Seriously, ANYONE buying a 2011 base Corvette?
10-07-2010, 08:59 AM
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capiche
1940s slang, from It. capisci? "do you understand?" from capire "to understand," from L. capere "seize, grasp, take" (see capable). Also spelled as coppish, kabish, capeesh, etc.
1940s slang, from It. capisci? "do you understand?" from capire "to understand," from L. capere "seize, grasp, take" (see capable). Also spelled as coppish, kabish, capeesh, etc.
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10-07-2010, 09:08 AM
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I fear this may get worse for Corvette in the next year or so. Reason.....
CTS-V Coupe is now out, Camaro Z28 is coming soon. The CTS-V accelerates faster then the coupe/GS and is more luxurious...priced at lower-mid 60's. Camaro Z28 will also accelerate faster (yet to be tested but with the same LSA 556hp motor as the CTS-V the numbers should be very close) and possibly cost less then a GS or even the coupe itself.
There is alot of competition these days coming from WITHIN GM let alone the rest of the world. C6 is now going on it's 6th year, priced higher, less room obviously, less hp then those other "non-sports cars."
The conditions are there for continued sales slump. I think short of the C7, the C6's days of selling 30k+ units per year are history.
CTS-V Coupe is now out, Camaro Z28 is coming soon. The CTS-V accelerates faster then the coupe/GS and is more luxurious...priced at lower-mid 60's. Camaro Z28 will also accelerate faster (yet to be tested but with the same LSA 556hp motor as the CTS-V the numbers should be very close) and possibly cost less then a GS or even the coupe itself.
There is alot of competition these days coming from WITHIN GM let alone the rest of the world. C6 is now going on it's 6th year, priced higher, less room obviously, less hp then those other "non-sports cars."
The conditions are there for continued sales slump. I think short of the C7, the C6's days of selling 30k+ units per year are history.
There's a lot more to the driving experience of a sports car than acceleration, and if someone can't see the difference in driving experience between a small 2 seater targa top and a larger sedan or GT then they can go out and buy the CTS-V or Z28 and it won't detract from my enjoyment of the Corvette one bit.
"Sports car" is not defined by power or acceleration.
To answer the original question, I wouldn't hesitate for one second to buy a new Coupe today if I was in the market for a new Corvette (I'm not - my '06 Coupe is just fine thank you) and the Coupe was the model that best fit my budget.
10-07-2010, 09:21 AM
#43
Safety Car
SO freakin' true!!!
10-07-2010, 09:21 AM
#44
Burning Brakes
When I bought my ’09 (7/09), I had the choice between the ’09 w/Z51 and ’10 GS…cost had nothing to do with my decision to buy the ’09.
I’m simply not a fan of the widebody corvette and I doubt I’m unique in that respect. I’m happy to have one of the last Z51 equipped “narrow-body” C6s and I would buy it again today if it were available.
I’m simply not a fan of the widebody corvette and I doubt I’m unique in that respect. I’m happy to have one of the last Z51 equipped “narrow-body” C6s and I would buy it again today if it were available.
10-07-2010, 09:26 AM
#45
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I have a base 08 mn6 (mz6) z51 coupe.I had the wheels painted comp gray,some dsvettes stuff installed and I'm getting hud soon.Also have breathless intake.Works for me!!
10-07-2010, 09:40 AM
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Race Director
I fear this may get worse for Corvette in the next year or so. Reason.....
CTS-V Coupe is now out, Camaro Z28 is coming soon. The CTS-V accelerates faster then the coupe/GS and is more luxurious...priced at lower-mid 60's. Camaro Z28 will also accelerate faster (yet to be tested but with the same LSA 556hp motor as the CTS-V the numbers should be very close) and possibly cost less then a GS or even the coupe itself.
There is alot of competition these days coming from WITHIN GM let alone the rest of the world. C6 is now going on it's 6th year, priced higher, less room obviously, less hp then those other "non-sports cars."
The conditions are there for continued sales slump. I think short of the C7, the C6's days of selling 30k+ units per year are history.
CTS-V Coupe is now out, Camaro Z28 is coming soon. The CTS-V accelerates faster then the coupe/GS and is more luxurious...priced at lower-mid 60's. Camaro Z28 will also accelerate faster (yet to be tested but with the same LSA 556hp motor as the CTS-V the numbers should be very close) and possibly cost less then a GS or even the coupe itself.
There is alot of competition these days coming from WITHIN GM let alone the rest of the world. C6 is now going on it's 6th year, priced higher, less room obviously, less hp then those other "non-sports cars."
The conditions are there for continued sales slump. I think short of the C7, the C6's days of selling 30k+ units per year are history.
In terms of the other cars you mention, Camaro , CTS-V , the LSA 556hp etc... one thing to keep in mind is that most of those cars weight north of 3600lbs, so while the extra power is nice and impressive, the weight off-sets alot of it. That is one great thing about the Vettes, they are really engineered with weight savings in mind. Yea the interiors are "cheap" and lots of plastic but that saves weight.
I do think GM has too much over-lapp in some of these models, there is just not enough to set them apart. In an effort to keep cost down, they have tried to copy-cat alot of things and just throw different badges on a car, and maybe different wheels, but then its basically the same car. They are bad at saturating the market within their own lines of cars.
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10-07-2010, 09:44 AM
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When I bought my ’09 (7/09), I had the choice between the ’09 w/Z51 and ’10 GS…cost had nothing to do with my decision to buy the ’09.
I’m simply not a fan of the widebody corvette and I doubt I’m unique in that respect. I’m happy to have one of the last Z51 equipped “narrow-body” C6s and I would buy it again today if it were available.
I’m simply not a fan of the widebody corvette and I doubt I’m unique in that respect. I’m happy to have one of the last Z51 equipped “narrow-body” C6s and I would buy it again today if it were available.
C2 w= 69.5"
C3 w = 69"
C4 w = 71"
C5 w = 73.6"
C6 w = 72.6"
C6 Z06/GS w= 75.9"
10-07-2010, 09:52 AM
#48
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capiche
1940s slang, from It. capisci? "do you understand?" from capire "to understand," from L. capere "seize, grasp, take" (see capable). Also spelled as coppish, kabish, capeesh, etc.
1940s slang, from It. capisci? "do you understand?" from capire "to understand," from L. capere "seize, grasp, take" (see capable). Also spelled as coppish, kabish, capeesh, etc.
10-07-2010, 10:00 AM
#49
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Sure, I think you are seeing the natural progression, the C6 is at the end of it's era, the C7 will be out in what, about 2 years or less? Still alot of speculation on that, who knows. Plus , not to beat a dead-horse but we are not exactly in normal economic times. Had the economy never tanked, it would be interesting to see the effect on the C6 production numbers.
In terms of the other cars you mention, Camaro , CTS-V , the LSA 556hp etc... one thing to keep in mind is that most of those cars weight north of 3600lbs, so while the extra power is nice and impressive, the weight off-sets alot of it. That is one great thing about the Vettes, they are really engineered with weight savings in mind. Yea the interiors are "cheap" and lots of plastic but that saves weight.
I do think GM has too much over-lapp in some of these models, there is just not enough to set them apart. In an effort to keep cost down, they have tried to copy-cat alot of things and just throw different badges on a car, and maybe different wheels, but then its basically the same car. They are bad at saturating the market within their own lines of cars.
In terms of the other cars you mention, Camaro , CTS-V , the LSA 556hp etc... one thing to keep in mind is that most of those cars weight north of 3600lbs, so while the extra power is nice and impressive, the weight off-sets alot of it. That is one great thing about the Vettes, they are really engineered with weight savings in mind. Yea the interiors are "cheap" and lots of plastic but that saves weight.
I do think GM has too much over-lapp in some of these models, there is just not enough to set them apart. In an effort to keep cost down, they have tried to copy-cat alot of things and just throw different badges on a car, and maybe different wheels, but then its basically the same car. They are bad at saturating the market within their own lines of cars.
10-07-2010, 10:07 AM
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99.9% of non-Vette people don't know what year looks like what, let alone the difference in models. As Vette people we tend to over-analyze things like fractions of a second in the 1/4 mile, track times etc. but most of us will never use the car to it's full abilities. I bought the GS because I liked the look and additional perf upgrades (brakes/wheels/suspension), and compared to my former C5 it hauls azz and rides great. If I was into tracking, for sure I'd have gone with the Z06. My point is there is a Vette for every taste, and they are all great American sports cars 
Sorry OP, this is not really what you were asking but it frustrates me to see car people bash each other over fenders and badges.
Sorry OP, this is not really what you were asking but it frustrates me to see car people bash each other over fenders and badges.
10-07-2010, 10:16 AM
#51
Melting Slicks
I love my 08 Z51 coupe, and would never consider trading it for a new GS.
I've driven a GS - and, from the driver's seat, it's got nothing on my Z51.
Although, if I were buying a new Vette today, the GS offers a lot for the money, and I'd definitely buy one.
It just pisses me off that if you want ANY performance options for the Vette, you're forced to by the more expensive GS.
I've driven a GS - and, from the driver's seat, it's got nothing on my Z51.
Although, if I were buying a new Vette today, the GS offers a lot for the money, and I'd definitely buy one.
It just pisses me off that if you want ANY performance options for the Vette, you're forced to by the more expensive GS.
10-07-2010, 10:24 AM
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10-07-2010, 10:24 AM
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The BASE worked for me. At $39,500 for a mid year 08 LS3, it was a no brainier. The guy driving the 4LT GS has nothing on me but a skinnier wallet by a substantial amount. Looks and drives the same from the inside.
I would buy a Base model in the other Vette configurations too. Personally I do not want all the JUNK. Had it in the M3 and it was all useless for me.
Base and I like skinny model owner and lover.
I would buy a Base model in the other Vette configurations too. Personally I do not want all the JUNK. Had it in the M3 and it was all useless for me.
Base and I like skinny model owner and lover.
10-07-2010, 10:28 AM
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capisce?
10-07-2010, 10:30 AM
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I get asked occasionally when i tell people i own a vette an 90% of the time the first thing they ask is it a z06 and i reply no base an i feel it makes it seem less then it is. of course its a vette but only a snooby duece bag would say its a corvette when asked what model.
10-07-2010, 10:33 AM
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Please... 
You think someone is going to come on this forum and say "hey guys check out my base Corvette with no features"? You guys ridicule the **** out of everyone, if you get a F55 you say "shoulda got a Z51", if you get the Z51, you say "Shoulda got a Z06".. if you get an automatic you guys say "durka durka not a sports car unless its manual", etc..
The last thing I would do, if I was someone that just bought a base C6, is come onto this forum and say "check out my base c6". Just because people aren't posting about it, doesn't mean plenty of people arent buying them.
Or, at least, not many who read up on the General Comments section and see the acerbic comments directed toward those who have a "lesser C6" which is only in the minds of the whomevers, since there's absolutely nothing "less" about the base C6. Except cost.
I looked very carefully at a "base, no-option" coupe on the floor and found it, at its price point, to be a realistic example of a somewhat affordable, America grand touring/sports car. At the prices today, I'm not sure I can say that.
10-07-2010, 10:40 AM
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We'll I guess I'd be the guy. I have a 07 MS Coupe. Although I like the looks of the GS, I'd order a 2011 Torch Red Vert, black top, 4lt Ebony, Nav & F55. Just not sure about the wheels yet.
If there was one in dealer stock with 3LT Red/Ebony, I'd settle for that.
If there was one in dealer stock with 3LT Red/Ebony, I'd settle for that.
10-07-2010, 10:57 AM
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I guess I'm in the minority here. When I ordered my 2010 Vert, I ordered the "base" (3LT) version simply because I liked the way it looked better than the GS. The gills on the GS never appealed to me.
10-07-2010, 11:15 AM
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Well, there is a song about the base C6. Skinnie Minnie, sung by Bill Haley and His Comets.