Escort Database Renewal Warning
10-09-2010, 12:22 AM
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Escort Database Renewal Warning
For those who have Escort’s that need Database Renewals, eg 9500ix, DO NOT use their web page for renewal. If you do you will be charged $4.50 for USPS shipping.
This is an illegal fee since you are only receiving an electronic PC / radar detector interface database update. I will be placing a stop on this fee via my credit card company.
“From: sales@escortinc.com
The website defaults to charging $4.50 for shipping on the subscription as it's an accessory order. There is no way to stop that during purchase on the website, but you can receive free shipping of the new subscription by calling our sales team at 800-964-3138.”
This is an illegal fee since you are only receiving an electronic PC / radar detector interface database update. I will be placing a stop on this fee via my credit card company.
“From: sales@escortinc.com
The website defaults to charging $4.50 for shipping on the subscription as it's an accessory order. There is no way to stop that during purchase on the website, but you can receive free shipping of the new subscription by calling our sales team at 800-964-3138.”
10-09-2010, 12:27 AM
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For those who have Escort’s that need Database Renewals, eg 9500ix, DO NOT use their web page for renewal. If you do you will be charged $4.50 for USPS shipping.
This is an illegal fee since you are only receiving an electronic PC / radar detector interface database update. I will be placing a stop on this fee via my credit card company.
“From: sales@escortinc.com
The website defaults to charging $4.50 for shipping on the subscription as it's an accessory order. There is no way to stop that during purchase on the website, but you can receive free shipping of the new subscription by calling our sales team at 800-964-3138.”
This is an illegal fee since you are only receiving an electronic PC / radar detector interface database update. I will be placing a stop on this fee via my credit card company.
“From: sales@escortinc.com
The website defaults to charging $4.50 for shipping on the subscription as it's an accessory order. There is no way to stop that during purchase on the website, but you can receive free shipping of the new subscription by calling our sales team at 800-964-3138.”
10-09-2010, 10:21 AM
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10-09-2010, 10:54 AM
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Hahaha, exactly!!! I still don't get the point of the arrows actually. It doesn't matter from where is the signal is coming, just slow down!!!! and also I really don't get how some people tell you that they got Valentine One because of the arrows, and they don't care about autolearn, red light camera, updating and I don't know what else of the 9500ix... Oh, and the laser shifters!!!!!!!!
10-10-2010, 03:02 PM
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The V1 update is $55 and it is a technology update- not just a gps update. You would have to buy a new Escort for a technology update.
10-10-2010, 03:56 PM
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And GPS warnings are for those boneheads that like to speed on city streets w/ kids, traffic lights where people get hurt. A detector is only useful on the open highway/freeway away from children and stop 'n go traffic.
The arrows are indispensable. They tell me if if the LEO is shooting radar from in front, from the side or behind me. It tells me if/when I have passed the threat. It tells me when the threat is over. Valentine One has the arrows
10-10-2010, 05:08 PM
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And GPS warnings are for those boneheads that like to speed on city streets w/ kids, traffic lights where people get hurt. A detector is only useful on the open highway/freeway away from children and stop 'n go traffic.
The arrows are indispensable. They tell me if if the LEO is shooting radar from in front, from the side or behind me. It tells me if/when I have passed the threat. It tells me when the threat is over. Valentine One has the arrows
10-10-2010, 07:14 PM
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And again... the V1 gives NO false alarms. If it goes off, then it is receiving a signal - period. Learn to use your detector properly.
The V1 is also easily programmable. Learn the radar bands currently in use for your driving area. Program out the others.
Example: In San Diego the only source for X-band is the automatic door openers at markets, gas stations and convenience stores so I program out X-band. When I drive through Arizona once a month, I reprogram the X-band back in because X-band is still used in Arizona by LEO in some areas. It's that simple. It takes maybe 2 minutes.
Last edited by keyplyr; 10-10-2010 at 09:52 PM. Reason: fix typo
10-10-2010, 09:49 PM
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The V1 falses like crazy, where have you been, in the mountains? X band has not been a problem for 10 years, almost all of the false reading on V1 have been k band, very few businesses use x band anymore. V1 will false on k band all the time, even in the most filtered mode, full logic. I can tell you never owner a 9500ix, it is much better in eliminating false readings, period. My detectors are always on, that reprograming the x band on V1 is just stupid, x band is not a problem. And this city comments are totally out of line, I have not had a speeding ticket in over 35 years and do not tell me I speed around children, who are you to make that comment, I am sure most of our owners feel the same way.
I used V1 from the day they came out, and Escort since the first ones ever produced by them, have you owned a 9500ix? I am sure not. I currently own both.
I used V1 from the day they came out, and Escort since the first ones ever produced by them, have you owned a 9500ix? I am sure not. I currently own both.
10-11-2010, 09:44 AM
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Hahaha, exactly!!! I still don't get the point of the arrows actually. It doesn't matter from where is the signal is coming, just slow down!!!! and also I really don't get how some people tell you that they got Valentine One because of the arrows, and they don't care about autolearn, red light camera, updating and I don't know what else of the 9500ix... Oh, and the laser shifters!!!!!!!!
10-11-2010, 10:36 AM
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10-11-2010, 10:49 AM
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My V1 has minimal if any false alarms and no pop mode.Sometimes I wonder if it's working right!Last night it gave me nothing but real threat alarms a few times on the highway.Up front on the side and from one that was a mile or so behind me and shooting radar while heading up the highway!How can knowing where they are not be helpful?? Also,the V1 can be programmed to reduce/eliminate any false alarms.The directions are right on their site.No x band where you are??Turn the part off and bingo,no more x band alert!!GPS??Arrows do the same thing!
10-11-2010, 10:55 AM
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At first glance the Escort being able to filter out known false signals seems to a great thing. One of the guys I work with just bought a 9500 due mostly to this technology. He had his 9500 about 2 weeks when he got a speeding ticket. Turns out the the cop setup where there was signal that the 9500 had previously filtered out. 
At least with the V1 you would see 2 bogey counters in an area where there would normally be only 1.
At least with the V1 you would see 2 bogey counters in an area where there would normally be only 1.
10-11-2010, 10:58 AM
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The V1 is great on the highway, very few false alerts, X band is old and not used much anywhere. Only issue with the V1 is falsing on the K band, when you go to advanced logic it eliminates most x band false alerts, K band is another issue.
When you take the V1 into the city is is very bothersome crying wolf all the time, this is where the 9500ix is so sweet.
I use my v1 on the highway and the 9500ix in the city.
After 30 years of top model radar use, if I had to pick one, it would be the 9500ix. If V1 adds the 9500ix gps system to eliminate false alarms it will totally be the top detector, conversely if the 9500 adds arrows same thing.
When you take the V1 into the city is is very bothersome crying wolf all the time, this is where the 9500ix is so sweet.
I use my v1 on the highway and the 9500ix in the city.
After 30 years of top model radar use, if I had to pick one, it would be the 9500ix. If V1 adds the 9500ix gps system to eliminate false alarms it will totally be the top detector, conversely if the 9500 adds arrows same thing.
10-11-2010, 12:53 PM
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I don't want the GPS system. I've watched cops sit in the shadow of areas that give falses, and shoot radar at people. With the V1, the bogey counter increments to let me know something else is going on. With the GPS system identifying the area as a known false, I'd be blind to that new threat.
But these arguments come up over and over. People prefer what they prefer. I like it when my unit tells me I've got 4 threats like it did on my trip back from Georgia Sunday. Cops were shooting people like ducks in a gallery. I remember in one instance the V1 showed 4 threats. I came up on 2 and thought it was just a bounce signal from the passing cars, but the forward arrow was flashing at me. About a mile up the road sat two more motorists on the shoulder getting their prize. Those kinds of instances are where the arrows are very worthwhile to me.
I remember a little cat and mouse game on I-10 a couple years ago. Cop sitting in the median, plainly visible, and shooting constant-on. No big deal I thought and somewhat silly. As I passed him, I got a faint blip of Ka from ahead though. And then again about 20 seconds later, but a bit stronger. Arrow still shows the threat behind, but also this new threat ahead. About a mile down the road just at the truck weigh station sat 8 troopers. They lit me up like a Christmas tree as I passed. No problem I was a couple miles under the limit by that point. As I got to the far end of the weigh station, by rear laser sensor went off. I guess they figured I'd speed up as I thought the threat was gone.
After having the bogey counters and the arrows now for some years, you couldn't get me to switch to something else even if it was free. I don't get a dime from the Valentine people, but I am a VERY satisfied customer, and recommend them to any friends looking for one.
Mine is more informational than anything else since I drive quite slowly, but NONE of them is a license to speed. I'll take my chances with the V1 every time though.
But these arguments come up over and over. People prefer what they prefer. I like it when my unit tells me I've got 4 threats like it did on my trip back from Georgia Sunday. Cops were shooting people like ducks in a gallery. I remember in one instance the V1 showed 4 threats. I came up on 2 and thought it was just a bounce signal from the passing cars, but the forward arrow was flashing at me. About a mile up the road sat two more motorists on the shoulder getting their prize. Those kinds of instances are where the arrows are very worthwhile to me.
I remember a little cat and mouse game on I-10 a couple years ago. Cop sitting in the median, plainly visible, and shooting constant-on. No big deal I thought and somewhat silly. As I passed him, I got a faint blip of Ka from ahead though. And then again about 20 seconds later, but a bit stronger. Arrow still shows the threat behind, but also this new threat ahead. About a mile down the road just at the truck weigh station sat 8 troopers. They lit me up like a Christmas tree as I passed. No problem I was a couple miles under the limit by that point. As I got to the far end of the weigh station, by rear laser sensor went off. I guess they figured I'd speed up as I thought the threat was gone.
After having the bogey counters and the arrows now for some years, you couldn't get me to switch to something else even if it was free. I don't get a dime from the Valentine people, but I am a VERY satisfied customer, and recommend them to any friends looking for one.
Mine is more informational than anything else since I drive quite slowly, but NONE of them is a license to speed. I'll take my chances with the V1 every time though.
10-11-2010, 01:02 PM
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At first glance the Escort being able to filter out known false signals seems to a great thing. One of the guys I work with just bought a 9500 due mostly to this technology. He had his 9500 about 2 weeks when he got a speeding ticket. Turns out the the cop setup where there was signal that the 9500 had previously filtered out.
At least with the V1 you would see 2 bogey counters in an area where there would normally be only 1.
At least with the V1 you would see 2 bogey counters in an area where there would normally be only 1.