Where do you keep the spare clicker?
#24
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I park in garage, no need to lock the car. One of the first things I have done when getting both my C6s was to make the car lock only when I locked it. Way too many people have locked themselves out by auto locking feature.
All spare keys/fobs for our vehicles and extra house keys are in my gun vault!
All spare keys/fobs for our vehicles and extra house keys are in my gun vault!
#25
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[QUOTE=Mike Green9;1576434950]
'08+ FOBS use power to send out a small signal so the BCM can detect if your FOB is present. With the batteries removed, hers will far outlast mine.
To the best of my knowledge the fob is dormant until you press a button on the door or trunk that intern quires the fob. At that point a signal is released. I have never heard the 8s and up have a different fob system!
'08+ FOBS use power to send out a small signal so the BCM can detect if your FOB is present. With the batteries removed, hers will far outlast mine.
To the best of my knowledge the fob is dormant until you press a button on the door or trunk that intern quires the fob. At that point a signal is released. I have never heard the 8s and up have a different fob system!
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St. Jude Donor '13
Three fobs:
#1 goes into my pocket when I get dressed in the morning.
#2 stays in my wife's purse, she occasionally drives the car.
#3 is wrapped in aluminum foil and hidden deeply inside the car.
Spare key is hidden deeply outside the car, I can retrieve the spare key to unlock car, retrieve/unwrap fob number three, and drive home; if I've lost everything else.
#1 goes into my pocket when I get dressed in the morning.
#2 stays in my wife's purse, she occasionally drives the car.
#3 is wrapped in aluminum foil and hidden deeply inside the car.
Spare key is hidden deeply outside the car, I can retrieve the spare key to unlock car, retrieve/unwrap fob number three, and drive home; if I've lost everything else.
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#29
Melting Slicks
Interesting....in the 4 months since I took delivery the FOB has become a permanent fixture in my left front pants pocket. It lives there all by itself (other keys, etc. go in the right pocket), and I have it in there even on days when I don't plan on driving the Vette.
FOB 2 lives in wife's purse, but I've never needed it because my FOB has never not been in the left pocket.
FOB 2 lives in wife's purse, but I've never needed it because my FOB has never not been in the left pocket.
#32
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The '08+ FOBs do emit a signal, as do any other FOBs for keyless vehicles.
It is scarey that they do. There are bad guys that watch for applicable vehicles, say in a shopping center. When you get out of your vehicle, they will pass you by very closely, usually carrying a briefcase. There is a device in that briefcase that will capture your FOB signal.
They then walk over to your vehicle, and if you have programmed you car to auto unlock on approach, guess what happens? The briefcase is then placed on the passenger seat, and the Start Button is pushed. Bye bye C6.
These FOBS emit 2 kinds of signals. One is the usual group of signals that unlock/lock doors, open hatches, set alarms, etc. You need to push one of the button for these. The other signal is what I call a 'presence' signal. This is what the BCM is listening for. Try to start your C6 without a FOB near by. "No FOB Detected". How does it know this? It knows this because the FOB is continually sending a signal (has to be within 2 or 3 feet to be noticed by the BCM).
So to be safe, my C6 is programmed to NOT auto unlock doors on approach. The would be thief can start my car, but he has to get in it first.
I have experimented with wrapping my FOB with tin foil. This does suppress the signal, but I found that the tin foil had to be loosely crumpled around the FOB. Tight and neatly wrapped tin foil did not work effectively for me.
What I would like to see is a FOB with a small slide switch that can turn off this ‘presence’ signal.
M....
It is scarey that they do. There are bad guys that watch for applicable vehicles, say in a shopping center. When you get out of your vehicle, they will pass you by very closely, usually carrying a briefcase. There is a device in that briefcase that will capture your FOB signal.
They then walk over to your vehicle, and if you have programmed you car to auto unlock on approach, guess what happens? The briefcase is then placed on the passenger seat, and the Start Button is pushed. Bye bye C6.
These FOBS emit 2 kinds of signals. One is the usual group of signals that unlock/lock doors, open hatches, set alarms, etc. You need to push one of the button for these. The other signal is what I call a 'presence' signal. This is what the BCM is listening for. Try to start your C6 without a FOB near by. "No FOB Detected". How does it know this? It knows this because the FOB is continually sending a signal (has to be within 2 or 3 feet to be noticed by the BCM).
So to be safe, my C6 is programmed to NOT auto unlock doors on approach. The would be thief can start my car, but he has to get in it first.
I have experimented with wrapping my FOB with tin foil. This does suppress the signal, but I found that the tin foil had to be loosely crumpled around the FOB. Tight and neatly wrapped tin foil did not work effectively for me.
What I would like to see is a FOB with a small slide switch that can turn off this ‘presence’ signal.
M....
Last edited by Mike Green9; 01-06-2011 at 05:22 PM. Reason: ommision
#34
Drifting
Don't want to mix them up..
FOB #1 is mine and religiously hangs out on top of my armoire while FOB #2 is used (albeit very infrequently.. ) by the wife.. I don't want to get them mixed up cuz when you power up with FOB #2 the DIC displays "SEXYONE".. hm... nah..
#36
My bedroom is just a few feet away from where I park. I used to keep the spare fob in my dresser drawer. Had it there for a year or more, until I discovered one day that it was close enough to allow entry/ignition.
Guess I was pretty lucky all that time that no one discovered they could just hop in and drive away, although at night I keep a club on the steering wheel and the car is covered with a locked cable running under the car. I did notice that many times my seat/horn/mirror/etc preferences were changed and I was always puzzled as to why
I have since changed the location of the spare fob
Guess I was pretty lucky all that time that no one discovered they could just hop in and drive away, although at night I keep a club on the steering wheel and the car is covered with a locked cable running under the car. I did notice that many times my seat/horn/mirror/etc preferences were changed and I was always puzzled as to why
I have since changed the location of the spare fob
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In a drawer in my ammo room, the entrance into which is 5 steps away from my bed in the master bedroom.
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St. Jude Donor '13
The '08+ FOBs do emit a signal, as do any other FOBs for keyless vehicles.
It is scarey that they do. There are bad guys that watch for applicable vehicles, say in a shopping center. When you get out of your vehicle, they will pass you by very closely, usually carrying a briefcase. There is a device in that briefcase that will capture your FOB signal.
They then walk over to your vehicle, and if you have programmed you car to auto unlock on approach, guess what happens? The briefcase is then placed on the passenger seat, and the Start Button is pushed. Bye bye C6.
These FOBS emit 2 kinds of signals. One is the usual group of signals that unlock/lock doors, open hatches, set alarms, etc. You need to push one of the button for these. The other signal is what I call a 'presence' signal. This is what the BCM is listening for. Try to start your C6 without a FOB near by. "No FOB Detected". How does it know this? It knows this because the FOB is continually sending a signal (has to be within 2 or 3 feet to be noticed by the BCM).
So to be safe, my C6 is programmed to NOT auto unlock doors on approach. The would be thief can start my car, but he has to get in it first.
I have experimented with wrapping my FOB with tin foil. This does suppress the signal, but I found that the tin foil had to be loosely crumpled around the FOB. Tight and neatly wrapped tin foil did not work effectively for me.
What I would like to see is a FOB with a small slide switch that can turn off this ‘presence’ signal.
M....
It is scarey that they do. There are bad guys that watch for applicable vehicles, say in a shopping center. When you get out of your vehicle, they will pass you by very closely, usually carrying a briefcase. There is a device in that briefcase that will capture your FOB signal.
They then walk over to your vehicle, and if you have programmed you car to auto unlock on approach, guess what happens? The briefcase is then placed on the passenger seat, and the Start Button is pushed. Bye bye C6.
These FOBS emit 2 kinds of signals. One is the usual group of signals that unlock/lock doors, open hatches, set alarms, etc. You need to push one of the button for these. The other signal is what I call a 'presence' signal. This is what the BCM is listening for. Try to start your C6 without a FOB near by. "No FOB Detected". How does it know this? It knows this because the FOB is continually sending a signal (has to be within 2 or 3 feet to be noticed by the BCM).
So to be safe, my C6 is programmed to NOT auto unlock doors on approach. The would be thief can start my car, but he has to get in it first.
I have experimented with wrapping my FOB with tin foil. This does suppress the signal, but I found that the tin foil had to be loosely crumpled around the FOB. Tight and neatly wrapped tin foil did not work effectively for me.
What I would like to see is a FOB with a small slide switch that can turn off this ‘presence’ signal.
M....
What I believe happens is that when you squeeze the door pad, the car sends out a signal "is there a fob nearby?" If a proper fob responds, then the car unlocks the door. Until you squeeze the door pad, and the car-fob-car exchange takes place succesfully, the car remains locked.
Aluminum foil wrapped tightly around my fob was sufficient to keep it from being able to do anything, i didn't try the loose wrap.