red air bag light
11-28-2012, 10:13 AM
#41
Burning Brakes
Just returned from a visit to the dealer, they pulled the code and need to order a front impact sensor. I asked about why it happens at high speeds and they had no idea, guess as long as it is fixed before my event at Daytona next month with Hooked On Driving is all I really care about. Something tells me the car will see speeds of over 150 on that track. 
11-28-2012, 10:48 AM
#42
CF Senior Member
Member Since: Feb 2006
Location: Tucson Arizona
Posts: 23,313
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes
on
18 Posts
11-28-2012, 10:49 AM
#43
Safety Car
2008 manual coupe, red air light bag goes on at WOT above 100+ speeds. I turn off the ignition and the light stays off upon restart. I have done many 1-3 WOT runs and no light, it only occurs when into triple digit speeds.
The following users liked this post:
Egangroup1 (11-12-2020)
11-28-2012, 02:06 PM
#45
Instructor
12-07-2012, 06:24 AM
#47
Burning Brakes
Dealer had the car for a few days and they talked with GM tech support, they claim they have never heard of a problem like this.
They checked all connectors ( including under the seat ) and have now decided to replace the airbag control unit. It will take a few days for the part to come in, I will keep my fingers crossed that this takes care of the problem but it sounds like a stab in the dark.
They checked all connectors ( including under the seat ) and have now decided to replace the airbag control unit. It will take a few days for the part to come in, I will keep my fingers crossed that this takes care of the problem but it sounds like a stab in the dark.
12-07-2012, 07:30 AM
#48
12-16-2012, 11:09 PM
#50
Tech Contributor
Member Since: Oct 1999
Location: Charlotte, NC (formerly Endicott, NY)
Posts: 40,089
Received 8,928 Likes
on
5,333 Posts
You really don't need to tell them how fast you were going. I had my car in for a headlight issue the other day. The mechanic came out asked me if I knew there were a whole bunch of SIR history codes on the car and wanted to know if I had any airbag issues. I said don't worry about them. The car doesn't like it when I put my race seats in place of the stock seats. They will reset before next track season and then get set all over again.
Bill
Bill
12-17-2012, 06:03 AM
#51
Burning Brakes
You really don't need to tell them how fast you were going. I had my car in for a headlight issue the other day. The mechanic came out asked me if I knew there were a whole bunch of SIR history codes on the car and wanted to know if I had any airbag issues. I said don't worry about them. The car doesn't like it when I put my race seats in place of the stock seats. They will reset before next track season and then get set all over again.
Bill
Bill
I agree that if you have a dealer that won't work with you don't mention the speed, mine is cool about it. The service writer has a older 1970's Corvette so he understands that I use the car for what it was made for.
12-17-2012, 12:42 PM
#52
Race Director
Member Since: Sep 2007
Location: Peoria/Phoenix AZ
Posts: 16,555
Received 2,061 Likes
on
1,505 Posts
C6 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
I disregard the light when it shows after every time I've exceeded 130. It always goes off the next start cycle.
103K miles on the car and over 300 1/4mi passes in the 120-126 mph range and the light never goes on under 130 mph.
If it was a "real" problem with the airbag system, it wouldn't wait for a high speed run to activate and it wouldn't reset itself either.
103K miles on the car and over 300 1/4mi passes in the 120-126 mph range and the light never goes on under 130 mph.
If it was a "real" problem with the airbag system, it wouldn't wait for a high speed run to activate and it wouldn't reset itself either.
12-18-2012, 09:20 AM
#53
One question here..... While the light is on is the system disabled? If so, that's not good....
My occasional light seems to be tied to the seat connector in the rear. I've got to get in there and tighten that up as others have suggested.
My occasional light seems to be tied to the seat connector in the rear. I've got to get in there and tighten that up as others have suggested.
The following users liked this post:
Egangroup1 (11-12-2020)
12-18-2012, 04:00 PM
#54
Burning Brakes
According to this website the airbags will not deploy if the red fault light is on.
http://www.airbagcenter.com/airbag_light_is_on.aspx
http://www.airbagcenter.com/airbag_light_is_on.aspx
12-18-2012, 06:02 PM
#55
According to this website the airbags will not deploy if the red fault light is on.
http://www.airbagcenter.com/airbag_light_is_on.aspx
http://www.airbagcenter.com/airbag_light_is_on.aspx
This should be a safety recall with all the people troubled by this. Who's to say that even though the light is OFF that at the point of an impact (crash) the system becomes disabled?
12-18-2012, 07:23 PM
#56
Melting Slicks
If you can pull a DTC, these bullitens may help:
#07-09-41-009: Airbag Light On, DTC )23 Set (Diagnose and Replace Right Front Seatbelt Retractor Assembly, If Necessary) - (Dec 17, 2007)
#08-09-41-002A: Diagnostic information for Intermittent Restraints, Air Bag (SIR) Indicator/Lamp On with DTC(s) B0012, B0013, B0014, B0016, B0019, B0020, B0022, B0023, B0026, B0033, B0040, B0042 or B0044 Set - (Aug 14, 2008)
Technicians may encounter an intermittent or current SIR indicator on the Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) with DTC(s) B0012 04, 0E; B0013 04, 0E; B0016 04, 0E; B0019 04, 0E; B0020 04, 0E; B0022, B0023 04 0E; B0033 04, 0E; B0040 04, 0E; B0042 and B044 set in the sensing and diagnostic module (SDM).
This could be caused by a loose, missing, or broken Connector Position Assurance (CPA) retainer at the Air Bag for the set DTC.
If loose, remove the connector and reinstall correctly by first pushing the connector body in completely and then pushing in the CPA retainer completely. If the CPA is broken, missing or will not seat in the connector correctly, replace the CPA retainer with P/N 54590003 (Orange CPA) that is located in the SIR Repair Tray (J-38125-SIR) of the terminal repair kit.
If the CPA retainer P/N 54590003 (Orange CPA) cannot be located in the terminal repair kit, contact Kent Moore Tools @ 1-800-GM-TOOLS and order P/N 54590003-PKG to obtain a package of 5.
#07-09-41-009: Airbag Light On, DTC )23 Set (Diagnose and Replace Right Front Seatbelt Retractor Assembly, If Necessary) - (Dec 17, 2007)
#08-09-41-002A: Diagnostic information for Intermittent Restraints, Air Bag (SIR) Indicator/Lamp On with DTC(s) B0012, B0013, B0014, B0016, B0019, B0020, B0022, B0023, B0026, B0033, B0040, B0042 or B0044 Set - (Aug 14, 2008)
Technicians may encounter an intermittent or current SIR indicator on the Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) with DTC(s) B0012 04, 0E; B0013 04, 0E; B0016 04, 0E; B0019 04, 0E; B0020 04, 0E; B0022, B0023 04 0E; B0033 04, 0E; B0040 04, 0E; B0042 and B044 set in the sensing and diagnostic module (SDM).
This could be caused by a loose, missing, or broken Connector Position Assurance (CPA) retainer at the Air Bag for the set DTC.
If loose, remove the connector and reinstall correctly by first pushing the connector body in completely and then pushing in the CPA retainer completely. If the CPA is broken, missing or will not seat in the connector correctly, replace the CPA retainer with P/N 54590003 (Orange CPA) that is located in the SIR Repair Tray (J-38125-SIR) of the terminal repair kit.
If the CPA retainer P/N 54590003 (Orange CPA) cannot be located in the terminal repair kit, contact Kent Moore Tools @ 1-800-GM-TOOLS and order P/N 54590003-PKG to obtain a package of 5.
12-18-2012, 08:20 PM
#57
Team Owner
Member Since: Oct 2004
Location: San Clemente CA
Posts: 27,420
Likes: 0
Received 59 Likes
on
48 Posts
Everyone with this problem should make an official complaint to the National Highway Safety Administration. Until they get enough complaints GM will do nothing about this safety issue. After several years my check air bag light started again. I contacted them today and the form is very simple and just takes a few minuets to fill out.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/Vehicle+Safety/Recalls+&+Defects
http://www.nhtsa.gov/Vehicle+Safety/Recalls+&+Defects
12-18-2012, 10:36 PM
#58
Race Director
Member Since: Sep 2007
Location: Peoria/Phoenix AZ
Posts: 16,555
Received 2,061 Likes
on
1,505 Posts
C6 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
According to this website the airbags will not deploy if the red fault light is on.
http://www.airbagcenter.com/airbag_light_is_on.aspx
http://www.airbagcenter.com/airbag_light_is_on.aspx
I can understand the system disable at really high speeds, but have doubts that it doesn't re-enable after you slow below the limiting speed.
12-19-2012, 01:03 PM
#60
Team Owner
Member Since: Sep 2000
Location: Far NW 'burbs of Chicago
Posts: 23,938
Received 2,051 Likes
on
1,362 Posts
St. Jude Donor '13
According to this website the airbags will not deploy if the red fault light is on.
http://www.airbagcenter.com/airbag_light_is_on.aspx
http://www.airbagcenter.com/airbag_light_is_on.aspx
I'm suspicious of any blanket statement that the bag won't work if the light is on. My guess is that it depends on the reason for the light. Heck, I can recall some stories from years ago when someone had the light come on and several minutes later the airbag fired for no reason.
But regardless of the reason, I still would want the problem fixed ASAP.