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Old 02-12-2012, 10:02 AM
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Premium grade Top Tier brand.

Amsoil PI fuel additive every 4,000 miles.

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Old 02-12-2012, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GlennsVette
So Shell doesn't have ethanol?

My Dad calls me Mad Max but I look nothing like you!
I believe it varies from region to region but here the 91 Octane doesn't have ethanol but their other grades do have it.

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Old 02-12-2012, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GSRANDY
Premium grade Top Tier brand.

Amsoil PI fuel additive every 4,000 miles.

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I have already used this PI fuel additive product a number of times and can't tell a difference.
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Originally Posted by LS WON
I have already used this PI fuel additive product a number of times and can't tell a difference.
I'm unable to tell any difference as well, however the added confidence gained by using Amsoil PI based upon it's claims is well worth the cost to me.

In my opinion why wait until a problem arises. I prefer the proactive approach.................

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Originally Posted by GSRANDY
I'm unable to tell any difference as well, however the added confidence gained by using Amsoil PI based upon it's claims is well worth the cost to me.

In my opinion why wait until a problem arises. I prefer the proactive approach.................

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In preventative measures. I do use that Chevron Techron gas addictive and Chevron gas in the Corvette only.
Chevron used to sell a black bottle with gold print at their gas stations cost a bit but was suppose to remove engine deposits if I remember correctly and clean out fuel injectors. It was sometime ago and I wonder if this products is still available?
Old 02-12-2012, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennsVette
From the Manual, yeah I read the manual(lol):
Fuel
Use of the recommended fuel is
an important part of the proper
maintenance of this vehicle. To help
keep the engine clean and maintain
optimum vehicle performance, we
recommend the use of gasoline
advertised as TOP TIER Detergent
Gasoline.
Look for the TOP TIER label on the
fuel pump to ensure gasoline meets
enhanced detergency standards
developed by auto companies. A list
of marketers providing TOP TIER
Detergent Gasoline can be found at
www.toptiergas.com.
The eighth digit of the Vehicle
Identification Number (VIN) shows
the code letter or number that
identifies the vehicle's engine.
The VIN is at the top left of the
instrument panel. See Vehicle
Identification Number (VIN) on
page 12‑1.
Recommended Fuel
If the vehicle has the 6.2L V8 engine
(VIN Code W), use premium
unleaded gasoline with a posted
octane rating of 91 or higher.
You can also use regular unleaded
gasoline rated at 87 octane or
higher, but the vehicle's acceleration
could be slightly reduced, and a
slight audible knocking noise,
commonly referred to as spark
knock, might be heard. If the octane
is less than 87, a heavy knocking
noise might be heard when driving.
If this occurs, use a gasoline rated
at 87 octane or higher as soon as
possible. Otherwise, you could
damage the engine. If heavy
knocking is heard when using
gasoline rated at 87 octane or
higher, the engine needs service.
If the vehicle has the 6.2L V8 engine
(VIN Code T) or the 7.0L V8 engine
(VIN Code E), use premium
unleaded gasoline with a posted
octane rating of 91 or higher.
I have never seen TOP TIER on a gas pump & i have looked!! I use Exxon.
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Originally Posted by LS7 DREW
I will only run Chevron 91 (CA has nothing higher) in my Z06 unless I can't find one then I'll use the 76 Gas Station. From my understanding the difference in gas is the additives of course, how "fresh" it is, and condition of the storage containers. I also won't use a pump that is all 3 grades in one, has to have a separate pump for each grade dont want ANY 87 getting in my car
Those PUMPS went away in the 80's am i right ?
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Originally Posted by RobLo
Interesting, no Sunoco or BP (the 2 closest to me) on the list.....I use Sunoco because the company "supposedly" doesn't import from the Middle East. Didn't know about the Top Tier thing, I might have to rethink where I get my gas, also didn't know Shell V doesn't have Ethanol in it, great info on this forum!
The Shell down here has 10%.
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Originally Posted by dardenken
The Shell down here has 10%.
I'ts about 4.04 per gallon here.

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Old 02-12-2012, 07:29 PM
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Of the 4 Shell stations (and all other brands too) in town only one has alcohol free gas and that is because he demands it from his distributor. He cares more about his customers than max profit. The state gives dealers a 5 cents per gallon tax break on fuel with ethanol so that's all anyone else will sell. He also is the only station with straight diesel, no bio BS. People literally come from miles to his station, especially those with 2 cycle engines and all the bus and truck fleets in town want the diesel. According to the owner this will all end soon when the Gov will only permit ethanol tainted gas to be sold. I love the Government.
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Originally Posted by wbear
Of the 4 Shell stations (and all other brands too) in town only one has alcohol free gas and that is because he demands it from his distributor. He cares more about his customers than max profit. The state gives dealers a 5 cents per gallon tax break on fuel with ethanol so that's all anyone else will sell. He also is the only station with straight diesel, no bio BS. People literally come from miles to his station, especially those with 2 cycle engines and all the bus and truck fleets in town want the diesel. According to the owner this will all end soon when the Gov will only permit ethanol tainted gas to be sold. I love the Government.
You should see the gas lines at Arco reminds me of 1974 and 1979
$3.77 per gal for 91 super unleaded.

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Old 02-12-2012, 07:36 PM
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Default And not 10% ethanol either

Wait until the government mandates 15% ethanol.
Old 02-12-2012, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dardenken
Those PUMPS went away in the 80's am i right ?
not here atleast lol even some brand new gas stations have that style pump where they all use the same nozzle.
Old 02-12-2012, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RobLo
Interesting, no Sunoco or BP (the 2 closest to me) on the list.....I use Sunoco because the company "supposedly" doesn't import from the Middle East. Didn't know about the Top Tier thing, I might have to rethink where I get my gas, also didn't know Shell V doesn't have Ethanol in it, great info on this forum!
BP and Sunoco are name brands, and sometimes use them. Only thing I noticed about BP's winter blend additives, is they tend to gas out of my portable equipments tanks when sitting, stinking out the garage. Good product for sure, but not using it for that application again. As for fuel system cleaners like Techron, not a bad idea couple times a year, but really not needed it more frequently.
Old 02-12-2012, 10:37 PM
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I'm convinced that "top tier" is all marketing hype, until a chemical engineer in the petro biz tells me differently..... that is how I found 100% synthetic oil back in the early 70s. (my wife was the engineer)
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its much cheaper to buy premium if you use the companies gas card....
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Originally Posted by K9KUZ
I'm convinced that "top tier" is all marketing hype, until a chemical engineer in the petro biz tells me differently..... that is how I found 100% synthetic oil back in the early 70s. (my wife was the engineer)
Keep in mind, top tier means far more than actual product. One of the biggest things is how product quality control is maintained, for fressness, water, equipment condition, ext.

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Old 02-12-2012, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennsVette
From the Manual, yeah I read the manual(lol):
Fuel
Use of the recommended fuel is
an important part of the proper
maintenance of this vehicle. To help
keep the engine clean and maintain
optimum vehicle performance, we
recommend the use of gasoline
advertised as TOP TIER Detergent
Gasoline.
Look for the TOP TIER label on the
fuel pump to ensure gasoline meets
enhanced detergency standards
developed by auto companies. A list
of marketers providing TOP TIER
Detergent Gasoline can be found at
www.toptiergas.com.
The eighth digit of the Vehicle
Identification Number (VIN) shows
the code letter or number that
identifies the vehicle's engine.
The VIN is at the top left of the
instrument panel. See Vehicle
Identification Number (VIN) on
page 12‑1.
Recommended Fuel
If the vehicle has the 6.2L V8 engine
(VIN Code W), use premium
unleaded gasoline with a posted
octane rating of 91 or higher.
You can also use regular unleaded
gasoline rated at 87 octane or
higher, but the vehicle's acceleration
could be slightly reduced, and a
slight audible knocking noise,
commonly referred to as spark
knock, might be heard. If the octane
is less than 87, a heavy knocking
noise might be heard when driving.
If this occurs, use a gasoline rated
at 87 octane or higher as soon as
possible. Otherwise, you could
damage the engine. If heavy
knocking is heard when using
gasoline rated at 87 octane or
higher, the engine needs service.
If the vehicle has the 6.2L V8 engine
(VIN Code T) or the 7.0L V8 engine
(VIN Code E), use premium
unleaded gasoline with a posted
octane rating of 91 or higher.
with people who get paid a lot more money then members of this forum to make and test the engine. I think I will side with them.

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Old 02-13-2012, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by K9KUZ
I'm convinced that "top tier" is all marketing hype, until a chemical engineer in the petro biz tells me differently..... that is how I found 100% synthetic oil back in the early 70s. (my wife was the engineer)
I’m a chemical engineer retired from a major oil company who posts now and then, mostly on fuels and lubes questions. Top tier definitely is worth while. It is a set of specs developed by auto companies to insure clean fuels. To be certified top tier, a fuel must show in actual engine testing that its use results in very low levels of deposits on valves, injectors, manifolds, and combustion chambers. It is mostly related to the additive package used in the fuel, but there are also various other protections in the way the base fuels are handled and delivered. Since all fuels these days are reasonably clean and have reasonably good additive packages, it is certainly possible to have good experience using a fuel that is not top tier. But if you look at fuel users in groups, those using top tier will on average, unquestionably have cleaner engines than those who don’t.

And if your definition of 100% synthetic oil is from 1970, it is probably out of date. At that time, 100% synthetic meant group 4 oil. A lawsuit between Mobil and Castrol which Mobil lost, has allowed the definition of 100% synthetic to be expanded to include group 3, which most experts agree is slightly lower quality. As a result of that, you can be virtually certain that if your “100% synthetic” oil does not specifically say group 4 on the can, it does not meet your definition of 100% synthetic from 1970 (or from 1990 either for that matter). This topic is discussed in more detail in a lengthy post of mine in the current thread called “Mobil 1 all marketing hype!”, so I will not repeat it here.
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Originally Posted by LS7 DREW
not here atleast lol even some brand new gas stations have that style pump where they all use the same nozzle.
All the major stations here have had the "one" nozzle for many yrs.Less $$$$ for that type of pump.


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