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#41
Safety Car
Jim, points well made !
#42
motor trend AGAIN!
Corvette gs vs porsche carrera s so you knew how this was going to go.
if they had put all season tires on a z06, the results would have been different. but the newest version of the 911 had to get a good review and what better way.
pm little MT had to sprinkle it with sarcasm.
no need to read the article, because you've read this one for years.
if they had put all season tires on a z06, the results would have been different. but the newest version of the 911 had to get a good review and what better way.
pm little MT had to sprinkle it with sarcasm.
no need to read the article, because you've read this one for years.
#45
No one in their right (or left) mind will give any credence to that article. It was, at best, a mediocre tire comparison, not a valid car review. Of course IF the article lived up to a true comparative test, it would have pitted/tested the P against a ZR1 on a neutral pavement. On that test I bet on the ZR1, but that comparison won't sell magazines or Porsches either.
#46
Team Owner
Let me summarize how the article will read:
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
#47
MT better not have said anything about the design of the vette and how its body style is 8 years old. Porsche is already known as the most lazy of vehicle designers, the 911 has barely changed its body in over 20 years. Porsches are fun to drive but damn they just look out dated no matter which one you get. Look at the fail porsche boxter, ooooh iit looks just like the caymen, ooooh and looks like the 911. oooh and the SUV porsche looks like a 911 with taller tires.
#48
Pro
Read it and weep; the G/S is a fair weather car. Of course, nobody who owens one wants to acknowlege the fact, and will say Motor Trend is predjudiced against Corvettes, yadda, yadda, yadda. Not true, they simply reported the facts that some find hard to swallow. Unfortunately these kind of reports don't help Corvette sales; too bad they didn't test the base model equipped with the F55 suspension, it would have faired much better.
#49
Let me summarize how the article will read:
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
#50
Melting Slicks
Let me summarize how the article will read:
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
#51
Tires
I read the article last night and would have to agree the tires (Eagle F1's) probably had something to do with the wet performance. However, the the Pirelli PZero tires are likewise max summer performance tires and are not all weather. We all know the C6's interior is not as nice as a 131,000 porsche. I would argue the C6's interior is not as nice as the entry level porsche. I obviously like porsche, but I can't afford the car's price and the associated German service. That's why I have chosen the vette as I believe it's the best bang for the buck.
#52
Melting Slicks
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Let me summarize how the article will read:
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
#53
Let me summarize how the article will read:
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
F**k Motor Trend
#54
I've got an idea, let's test a GS with warm/dry weather tires in the freezing rain/snow against the P car which costs waaaaay more. We'll also say that the GS is the "Best American Sports Car".
Note: What is the Z06 or ZR1?
Holy sheet, that GS scared us in the cold and rain/snow.
Maybe we should take some driving courses before we do that. Oops, too late.
That P car sure is sweet.
What a total crock of sheet.
A total hatchet job.
If I was payin for this rag, I'd cancel.
Note: What is the Z06 or ZR1?
Holy sheet, that GS scared us in the cold and rain/snow.
Maybe we should take some driving courses before we do that. Oops, too late.
That P car sure is sweet.
What a total crock of sheet.
A total hatchet job.
If I was payin for this rag, I'd cancel.
#57
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Let me summarize how the article will read:
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
Although I did drive mine for 4 years in all weather except actual snow. Saw down to 5 degrees with the F1s and some hard driving rain, and never had an issue. Nervous at times, definitely, but got to and from work for 4 years without a single problem.
#58
Race Director
Let me summarize how the article will read:
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
#59
Le Mans Master
I really don't care. Regardless of the brand of the car, comments about tire performance should be reviewed within the context of what the tire is. I don't know what the Porsche was using for this test, but the tires were obviously better suited for wet and/or cold weather driving.
The Corvette is what it is; an exceptional value in a sports/GT style car that competes with cars costing much more. It's far from perfect, and the lower price can show up in some areas; performance not being one of those areas.
Car magazines would be pretty boring if all they did was heap praise on every car they tested. Tom McCahill used to write like that; with nothing but glowing reviews of every car he tested. His reviews were popular, and he was a really entertaining writer, but the reader really learned nothing about the cars he drove for his tests.
I don't mind reviews that are critical of the Vette in that they can point out areas of weakness that could be improved. Regarding the MT test, it would have been interesting to test the cars with the same tires; but that's not how the factory supplied them. Maybe the message to GM is that they need to put better tires on their cars if they want to compete on the world stage.
The Corvette is what it is; an exceptional value in a sports/GT style car that competes with cars costing much more. It's far from perfect, and the lower price can show up in some areas; performance not being one of those areas.
Car magazines would be pretty boring if all they did was heap praise on every car they tested. Tom McCahill used to write like that; with nothing but glowing reviews of every car he tested. His reviews were popular, and he was a really entertaining writer, but the reader really learned nothing about the cars he drove for his tests.
I don't mind reviews that are critical of the Vette in that they can point out areas of weakness that could be improved. Regarding the MT test, it would have been interesting to test the cars with the same tires; but that's not how the factory supplied them. Maybe the message to GM is that they need to put better tires on their cars if they want to compete on the world stage.
#60
Melting Slicks
Let me summarize how the article will read:
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.
Price - Corvette wins easily by $30,000.00 as tested.
Features - Corvette includes equal or more standard features.
Performance - Corvette stops sooner, accelerates equal or faster, does the slalom in a better time and beats the Porsche on a road course.
Interior - Porsche wins (reference price as tested ). Insert various jokes and comments about plastic, poor seats, etc.
Overall winner - Porsche.