COW BOOST AND TUNE 30 day review
#42
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I'm still waiting for an explanation from Chuck - or one of his satisfied customers - about how the Booster has been "proven" to increase gas mileage by 10% or more. I understand changing throttle response, but doing that and claiming a 10% MPG gain sounds like snake oil or patently false advertising to me.
Have any of you with the Booster experienced that kind of gas mileage increase?
Have any of you with the Booster experienced that kind of gas mileage increase?
I'm pretty sure Chuck is talking about the ENGINE Tune
In the following 2 sentences at the beginning of his Post, Chuck says:
" It's a great product and pays you back not only with unmatched performance, but
it's been proven to give most people at least a 3 MPG improvement on the highway."
And then, ... he goes on to talk about the Cow Booster
.......
In my limited experience, Engine Tunes will increase highway MPG depending on the Tune.
If it's an aggressive Tune, MPG in most cases will not be seen.
I only have a "canned" Diablo Predator Tune in my Escalade.
It's the Performance 93 Octane Tune for improved Power and Torque but with emphasis on MPG.
The Tune is definitely generating more Power and Torque, .. and I do get a couple more MPG highway driving.
These "canned" Tunes are a starting point and can be left like they are or improved upon for more Performance if one has the knowledge to do so.
Please do Not compare the Diablo "canned" Tune to what Chuck does or any other Hands On Tuner person.
#43
Race Director
Yes, I have, but thanks for that well thought out rebuttal. One of the parameters the Cobb AP messed with was the throttle response. I could pick a map that gave me more power with little pedal use or one that didn't kick in with a lot of power till 3/4 throttle, etc.
Same premise as the "amazing cow booster"
Same premise as the "amazing cow booster"
#44
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As Alfred said, thank you again Dif for explaining in detail what the programmer cannot/will not. Your description of the feature was clear and precise about what it is, and now it makes sense. I hope CoW starts using your description to better explain his service :/
My questions may have been poorly worded but they were only questions. Thank you for reading it several times. It was not meant to be negative, just trying to clear up something that was coming across as a poor 3am infomercial...
My questions may have been poorly worded but they were only questions. Thank you for reading it several times. It was not meant to be negative, just trying to clear up something that was coming across as a poor 3am infomercial...
Actually you're post wasn't really worded badly
It's just that if you search threads about the Cow Booster you'll find quite a few.
And, you'll find a lot of Bashing of the Cow Booster in those threads.
Makes it hard to know, "at a glance", when a post is a genuine question such as yours, and not a Bashing post
#46
Cow booster
I had it done by tune, COW BOOST Engine and Trans my car is totally different it is the best thing ever. I think the best thing is to ask Chuck he does have a hand held Tuner available. This may be able to turn it back to stock I am not sure. If you have an auto you not believe the difference. You can drive like an old lady and than blast like you can not belive. This thing ROCKS
#47
Race Director
One thing makes me "wonder" I must have seen over 500 posts on various CoW "Tunes" & "Boosters" and Not 1 has been negative?
I don't care what product is made for anything if 1000 people buy it there MUST be at least ONE who is not happy with it...
Take a Lamborghini, or a Rolls Royce .. I'm sure 99% of the buyers are happy with them but I'm just as sure at least "ONE" person is not satisfied or pleased with it, I'm not speaking only of cars, but EVERYTHING even electric razors sure most people like their "Norelco" but at least 1 person is not happy with it..
My question is Why haven't I see even "1" negative post about "ANY" of CoW products??? I can't comment either way as I don't have a dog in this fight.... I'm just a sideline observer.... But I "AM" wondering... maybe there has been a negative post & I missed it.. if so I apoligise... & I AM NOT bad mouthing CoW I hear a lot of good things about him & his work, & maybe one day will be a customer.. when $$ permits...
The above is just a "question" not an opinion !!
I don't care what product is made for anything if 1000 people buy it there MUST be at least ONE who is not happy with it...
Take a Lamborghini, or a Rolls Royce .. I'm sure 99% of the buyers are happy with them but I'm just as sure at least "ONE" person is not satisfied or pleased with it, I'm not speaking only of cars, but EVERYTHING even electric razors sure most people like their "Norelco" but at least 1 person is not happy with it..
My question is Why haven't I see even "1" negative post about "ANY" of CoW products??? I can't comment either way as I don't have a dog in this fight.... I'm just a sideline observer.... But I "AM" wondering... maybe there has been a negative post & I missed it.. if so I apoligise... & I AM NOT bad mouthing CoW I hear a lot of good things about him & his work, & maybe one day will be a customer.. when $$ permits...
The above is just a "question" not an opinion !!
#48
Chuck will do his best to make you happy. I install my computer today which is sitting on my doorstep. I'll let you know what i think.
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As an aside, I passed by his shop about 30 mins ago (his shop is local to me) and things are looking great for this weekends Cowlisle....I look forward to going...
#52
Safety Car
Why do people who have never experienced something themselves, feel they need to have a negative commit. Or they may have heard from a friend of a friend, or they read a post on another web site that said they heard bad things. I enjoy my tune and cow boost every time I drive it. To all na-sayers, try it, if you don't like it Chuck will remove it and refund your money. Then you will be able to post your a actual experience. There is a good chance if you give it a open minded chance you will be very pleased.
#54
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I'd rather have a 'piggy back' device then a download. A piggy back device is AFTER the ECU. It alters the signal. ECU is not altered. BUT I'd take a COW tune to improve the crap programming for the A6.
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#57
One thing makes me "wonder" I must have seen over 500 posts on various CoW "Tunes" & "Boosters" and Not 1 has been negative?
I don't care what product is made for anything if 1000 people buy it there MUST be at least ONE who is not happy with it...
Take a Lamborghini, or a Rolls Royce .. I'm sure 99% of the buyers are happy with them but I'm just as sure at least "ONE" person is not satisfied or pleased with it, I'm not speaking only of cars, but EVERYTHING even electric razors sure most people like their "Norelco" but at least 1 person is not happy with it..
My question is Why haven't I see even "1" negative post about "ANY" of CoW products??? I can't comment either way as I don't have a dog in this fight.... I'm just a sideline observer.... But I "AM" wondering... maybe there has been a negative post & I missed it.. if so I apoligise... & I AM NOT bad mouthing CoW I hear a lot of good things about him & his work, & maybe one day will be a customer.. when $$ permits...
The above is just a "question" not an opinion !!
I don't care what product is made for anything if 1000 people buy it there MUST be at least ONE who is not happy with it...
Take a Lamborghini, or a Rolls Royce .. I'm sure 99% of the buyers are happy with them but I'm just as sure at least "ONE" person is not satisfied or pleased with it, I'm not speaking only of cars, but EVERYTHING even electric razors sure most people like their "Norelco" but at least 1 person is not happy with it..
My question is Why haven't I see even "1" negative post about "ANY" of CoW products??? I can't comment either way as I don't have a dog in this fight.... I'm just a sideline observer.... But I "AM" wondering... maybe there has been a negative post & I missed it.. if so I apoligise... & I AM NOT bad mouthing CoW I hear a lot of good things about him & his work, & maybe one day will be a customer.. when $$ permits...
The above is just a "question" not an opinion !!
#58
No doubt that there are many many satisfied customers with the COW boost. in the end, that's what's important. when you make a mod to your car, you want to like it. no doubt that's the case.
for me, i don't think i would like the boost. maybe i am a wimp, but i don't think i want to have more sensitive gas pedal action. seems to me like it would make the corvette more difficult to handle in daily drive conditions.
for me, i don't think i would like the boost. maybe i am a wimp, but i don't think i want to have more sensitive gas pedal action. seems to me like it would make the corvette more difficult to handle in daily drive conditions.
#59
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
You're close to us......
One thing makes me "wonder" I must have seen over 500 posts on various CoW "Tunes" & "Boosters" and Not 1 has been negative?
I don't care what product is made for anything if 1000 people buy it there MUST be at least ONE who is not happy with it...
Take a Lamborghini, or a Rolls Royce .. I'm sure 99% of the buyers are happy with them but I'm just as sure at least "ONE" person is not satisfied or pleased with it, I'm not speaking only of cars, but EVERYTHING even electric razors sure most people like their "Norelco" but at least 1 person is not happy with it..
My question is Why haven't I see even "1" negative post about "ANY" of CoW products??? I can't comment either way as I don't have a dog in this fight.... I'm just a sideline observer.... But I "AM" wondering... maybe there has been a negative post & I missed it.. if so I apoligise... & I AM NOT bad mouthing CoW I hear a lot of good things about him & his work, & maybe one day will be a customer.. when $$ permits...
The above is just a "question" not an opinion !!
I don't care what product is made for anything if 1000 people buy it there MUST be at least ONE who is not happy with it...
Take a Lamborghini, or a Rolls Royce .. I'm sure 99% of the buyers are happy with them but I'm just as sure at least "ONE" person is not satisfied or pleased with it, I'm not speaking only of cars, but EVERYTHING even electric razors sure most people like their "Norelco" but at least 1 person is not happy with it..
My question is Why haven't I see even "1" negative post about "ANY" of CoW products??? I can't comment either way as I don't have a dog in this fight.... I'm just a sideline observer.... But I "AM" wondering... maybe there has been a negative post & I missed it.. if so I apoligise... & I AM NOT bad mouthing CoW I hear a lot of good things about him & his work, & maybe one day will be a customer.. when $$ permits...
The above is just a "question" not an opinion !!
And I'll either let you drive a car with CoW BOOSTER or try it in your car for FREE.
Then you'll know why there is no bad press for CoW BOOSTER.
So far as I've seen, considering the large volume of customers I have, the only negative press I get is
from people WHO DON'T HAVE CoW BOOSTER or DO NOT HAVE MY TUNE and have no experience with me at all.
The other group of "Chuck HATERS" are those that are CUSTOMERS OF OTHER TUNERS who try to "PROMOTE"
THEIR TUNER BY BASHING ME....
YES, I'm behind on my AutoCal tunes (largely due to CoWlisle) and YES, my answering machine is FULL.....
I'M VERY SORRY TO ANYONE WHO IS WAITING ON ME...
but we're EXTREMELY BUSY (which is a good thing for you)
and CoWlisle 2012 has got me here till 4am every night for the past 3 weeks!!!
After this weekend's insanity.....Corvettes of Westchester should return to normal.....If you can call it NORMAL.
Come on down and get CoW BOOSTED!
Chuck CoW
#60
I got my ECM back from Chuck yesterday. I put it back in my car and the first time I pressed the peddle it scared the $!*# out of me.
It is going to take a while to get use to it. So far I'm extremely happy with it and I can't wait for my AutoCal to get my transmission tuned in.
1 day in ... extremely happy with it.
It is going to take a while to get use to it. So far I'm extremely happy with it and I can't wait for my AutoCal to get my transmission tuned in.
1 day in ... extremely happy with it.