Opinion: 427 now or wait for C7
11-30-2012, 11:30 AM
#21
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Exactly, there will not be a vert in 2014 that will outperform a 427, nor a coupe that will outperform a 2013 Z06 or ZR1...and it's unknown if there will be a vert that will outperform a 427 in 2015 (or any model year of C7 for that matter).
And for those 98% perhaps the looks of the 2014 will matter more than the performance difference. I tend to spend a lot of time at the top of the power curve in gears 1-3, where there is a world of difference between the 427 and a base vert.
And for those 98% perhaps the looks of the 2014 will matter more than the performance difference. I tend to spend a lot of time at the top of the power curve in gears 1-3, where there is a world of difference between the 427 and a base vert.
11-30-2012, 12:51 PM
#22
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11-30-2012, 01:14 PM
#23
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In the first year or 2 of the C7, yes I would bet there will not be a high performance version of the C7 (Z06 or ZR1) but I would almost guarntee by the end of the 2nd year or start of 3rd there will be some kind of ZR1 or Z06. Given what ford and dodge and other companies are doing there is no way GM is just going to release the C7 at 450-470HP and be done with it 
I could see them not releasing both a Z06 and ZR1 again, and going with 1 or the other... maybe a 675HP ZR1 or something, or 600HP Z06 , who knows. ..
I could see them not releasing both a Z06 and ZR1 again, and going with 1 or the other... maybe a 675HP ZR1 or something, or 600HP Z06 , who knows. ..
11-30-2012, 01:24 PM
#24
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In the first year or 2 of the C7, yes I would bet there will not be a high performance version of the C7 (Z06 or ZR1) but I would almost guarntee by the end of the 2nd year or start of 3rd there will be some kind of ZR1 or Z06. Given what ford and dodge and other companies are doing there is no way GM is just going to release the C7 at 450-470HP and be done with it
I could see them not releasing both a Z06 and ZR1 again, and going with 1 or the other... maybe a 675HP ZR1 or something, or 600HP Z06 , who knows. ..
I could see them not releasing both a Z06 and ZR1 again, and going with 1 or the other... maybe a 675HP ZR1 or something, or 600HP Z06 , who knows. ..
11-30-2012, 01:28 PM
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11-30-2012, 01:32 PM
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In the first year or 2 of the C7, yes I would bet there will not be a high performance version of the C7 (Z06 or ZR1) but I would almost guarntee by the end of the 2nd year or start of 3rd there will be some kind of ZR1 or Z06. Given what ford and dodge and other companies are doing there is no way GM is just going to release the C7 at 450-470HP and be done with it
I could see them not releasing both a Z06 and ZR1 again, and going with 1 or the other... maybe a 675HP ZR1 or something, or 600HP Z06 , who knows. ..
I could see them not releasing both a Z06 and ZR1 again, and going with 1 or the other... maybe a 675HP ZR1 or something, or 600HP Z06 , who knows. ..
Not only that, first year or two the C7 will most likely have bugs to be worked out.. So if it was me, unless I was willing to wait until 2016, I'd go 427.
11-30-2012, 01:39 PM
#27
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Just me, but I wouldn't buy my sports car without driving it first to see how it performs. And I certainly wouldn't do it with a first year model release. In addition, I still don't believe there will be a 2014 vert that will outperform the 427...and you won't be driving one that underperforms the 427 for nearly a year from now...
11-30-2012, 01:54 PM
#28
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Exactly. I would be pissed if when the C6 came out I jumped and got an 05 or 06 only to find out in 08 the LS3 comes out with a good deal more power and torque among other things.. If I do a C7 it won't be until 4th or 5th year of that run.
11-30-2012, 01:54 PM
#29
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About three months ago, after accepting a new job in Minneapolis, I traded in my 09 C6 Vert for an AWD Hyundai Santa Fe. While the new ride is functionally ok and will handle the snow when it finally arrives, I miss my vert something terrible and have been perusing the forum vendor's postings. I am wondering the same thing as the OP. I can save for a C7 or just take the plunge and buy another C6. Oh and another reason to kick myself is the unusually warm and dry winter here so far. I could have been enjoying my vert the whole time!!!
11-30-2012, 01:54 PM
#30
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I would go with the 427 Convertible now vs. waiting for the C7. The 427 Convertible is a unique one year model and IMHO one of the best looking Corvettes ever made. When the C7 model comes out it will be unique only for a short while and in time, be as common as the C5's and 6's are now. Add to the fact that you can get a pretty hefty discount on the 427, with the rebates and incentives being offered.
The C7 is 6 weeks away from being shown to the public and 9 or 10 months away from actually getting one. The C7 will most likely sell for MSRP or better.
If you buy a 427 now and find that you like the C7 that much more...you could always sell or trade it later anyway.
The C7 is 6 weeks away from being shown to the public and 9 or 10 months away from actually getting one. The C7 will most likely sell for MSRP or better.
If you buy a 427 now and find that you like the C7 that much more...you could always sell or trade it later anyway.
11-30-2012, 02:02 PM
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11-30-2012, 04:02 PM
#33
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I had this same type of internal struggle for three months,but it was worse for me as I have been without one for a few years. Grand sport vert? leftover model? or throw caution to the wind and go 427...or since its now cold here in pa, wait for spring and see what the C7 does. Yeah, that thought is gone. Went to look at 427's finally, in person. picking mine up tomorrow. If the C7 is really that superior, or gotta have it, it will not be until late summer anyway. meanwhile I will have mine for start of spring, at a very fair price.
I was being conservative, but really wanted the 427. Finally, my accountant of all people talked me into it. If you have the desire and the means, I say go for it. Enjoy it now. Quite frankly deals are good NOW. May they get better? perhaps, but by how much? Also, if you have the means to buy a 427, it isnt going to devalue soo badly that you wont be able to trade into a C7 if you really HAVE TO. jump in, the water is fine.
I was being conservative, but really wanted the 427. Finally, my accountant of all people talked me into it. If you have the desire and the means, I say go for it. Enjoy it now. Quite frankly deals are good NOW. May they get better? perhaps, but by how much? Also, if you have the means to buy a 427, it isnt going to devalue soo badly that you wont be able to trade into a C7 if you really HAVE TO. jump in, the water is fine.
11-30-2012, 04:12 PM
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I would buy the 427 car and keep it for 3 years. See what they offer for the 2016 Corvette. If there is some kick *** model then trade the 13 in and buy a 16 if not keep the 13.
11-30-2012, 11:51 PM
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I too went through this thought process before buying my 427 Anniversary Edition. I had been hoping after the ZR1 came out, that Chevy would understand there are buyers like me that want the badass 427 engine in a convertable and have no desire to use the car for a racer and they finally did it. I do believe this car is an instant classic and who knows if or when Chevrolet will use this monster engine again. Chevy will hold back the ZR1 and Z06 for future model years to keep the interest in the line. There is no need for them to bring out the entire C6 lineup in the C7 format. They need to spread it out. When they finally get around to doing a Z06 if ever, what are the chances this 427 or it's variant will make it back in the car? I would say pretty slim, so this may be the swan song for the 427 much like how they faded away in the C2/C3 models.
12-01-2012, 09:00 AM
#38
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Well it's not looks or performance for me it's the 427 that I sold in 1973. Then I had to wait till 2009 to get another don't think I have that many years left to wait on another 427. I would love to own one of the last z07 but it's not in the cards. So my 2012 z06 will have to suffice.
I don't see how 376 cubes and 450 horse power equals faster times than a Z06 or 427 convertible. No substitue for cubic inches on the street yeah I now turbo 4's and super charged this an that. I'm talking NA not forced induction.
Oh and don't want to be a tester for GM I stay away from first year cars 2005 weak rear ends and harmonic bal. They had bad Harmonic bal in 1984 vetts I owned one it was the recall of the week.
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I don't see how 376 cubes and 450 horse power equals faster times than a Z06 or 427 convertible. No substitue for cubic inches on the street yeah I now turbo 4's and super charged this an that. I'm talking NA not forced induction.
Oh and don't want to be a tester for GM I stay away from first year cars 2005 weak rear ends and harmonic bal. They had bad Harmonic bal in 1984 vetts I owned one it was the recall of the week.
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12-01-2012, 09:13 AM
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plus all of the new features etc. it will have. I would hate to spend all of that money on a new car that is from the previous generation in months. If the price was rightI would jump on the 427.
12-01-2012, 09:27 AM
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If it were me, I'd wait the 6 weeks or so and see what the C7 looks like before making any decision. The 427 will still be available should you not like what you see in the C7.