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05-21-2013, 11:10 PM
#21
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Dennis I have purchased from you before as well, if I understand this correct you cannot sell to me as I live in Florida ......that sucks if true.
05-21-2013, 11:40 PM
#23
Race Director
05-22-2013, 07:23 AM
#24
Team Owner
05-22-2013, 07:46 AM
#25
Race Director
If many of those dealers sold the warranty at a fair price, they wouldn't have to worry about Internet sales. However, that is not how it is being done. I know when I bought my GMPP from you, it was at a substantial discount from what I could get at my local dealer.
You can believe you got a great deal from Dennis. GMPPs have a retail list price and a dealer cost price. That difference is typically many hundreds of dollars for a long term plan. Local dealers want to sell you a GMPP at full retail price putting those additional hundreds of dollars of pure profit in their pocket. I am not against anyone making a profit as that is the foundation of our economic system. But I am against paying anything more than I have to which is also the American Way.
05-22-2013, 08:36 AM
#27
Melting Slicks
I'd like to believe that would never happen...but these days you never know.
05-22-2013, 08:40 AM
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This was actually put into effect about 6 months ago but we were unaware of it due to a letter from GMPP falling thru the cracks and me not seeing it. I am done selling in California as of today unless I get anything to change things from GMPP but I am sure that is not going to happen.
According to the attached excerpt from the current GMPP Administration Guide, the state of California requires that the VSC (GMPP) be sold by a dealer licensed in the State of California, and the VSC (GMPP) must be incidental to the sale or lease of the vehicle. Therefore, internet sales of GMPP to California customers are not allowed.
This is direct from GMPP this morning in an email to me.
According to the attached excerpt from the current GMPP Administration Guide, the state of California requires that the VSC (GMPP) be sold by a dealer licensed in the State of California, and the VSC (GMPP) must be incidental to the sale or lease of the vehicle. Therefore, internet sales of GMPP to California customers are not allowed.
This is direct from GMPP this morning in an email to me.
05-22-2013, 09:04 AM
#32
You and I own the same car now. You have given us all great deals on our GMPP so Don't worry Dennis when they come and lock you up for giving such great deals we will all come visit you in Jail! 
05-22-2013, 10:30 AM
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Renewals too??
Dennis,
I just bought the 5 yr 50k from you last week.
Can you issue a renewal when the time comes or are the powers that be going to stop that, too? I haven't heard of any move by Virginia in the direction of Fl or Ca, but, the dealer groups are quite persuasive. Not sure where they will be in 3 years.
I just bought the 5 yr 50k from you last week.
Can you issue a renewal when the time comes or are the powers that be going to stop that, too? I haven't heard of any move by Virginia in the direction of Fl or Ca, but, the dealer groups are quite persuasive. Not sure where they will be in 3 years.
05-22-2013, 11:13 AM
#35
Former Vendor
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GMPP words to us in their letter:
Upon further review of regulatory requirements across all states we have determined that it is necessary to discontinue dealer internet marketing in additional states beyond the original restriction for Florida. Effective immediately we are requesting that dealers stop internet marketing to customers located in the following states: Alaska, California, Idaho, Kentucky, Maryland, Oregon and Washington. Each of these states has specific regulatory requirements that cannot currently be met for internet marketing.
As to the point I made with them, I am not soliciting anyone to buy from me over the internet, I have been doing this for many, many years and have gained many customers who keep coming back and referring me to their friends and relatives and that I just have a good name among Corvette owners who tell people about me and thus they contact me for a quote on a GMPP but this was all to deff ears.
Many states just require a new State Specific Form be sent to the customer upon purchase which I just now have to code the GMPP submission to GM when I do it in the system and you then receive the form to look at and I believe sign and send back to GMPP that you understand the state rules. I am also sending a letter now for signature stating I have sent them to you also and that you understand them fully to protect me.
Upon further review of regulatory requirements across all states we have determined that it is necessary to discontinue dealer internet marketing in additional states beyond the original restriction for Florida. Effective immediately we are requesting that dealers stop internet marketing to customers located in the following states: Alaska, California, Idaho, Kentucky, Maryland, Oregon and Washington. Each of these states has specific regulatory requirements that cannot currently be met for internet marketing.
As to the point I made with them, I am not soliciting anyone to buy from me over the internet, I have been doing this for many, many years and have gained many customers who keep coming back and referring me to their friends and relatives and that I just have a good name among Corvette owners who tell people about me and thus they contact me for a quote on a GMPP but this was all to deff ears.
Many states just require a new State Specific Form be sent to the customer upon purchase which I just now have to code the GMPP submission to GM when I do it in the system and you then receive the form to look at and I believe sign and send back to GMPP that you understand the state rules. I am also sending a letter now for signature stating I have sent them to you also and that you understand them fully to protect me.
05-22-2013, 11:40 AM
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GMPP words to us in their letter:
Upon further review of regulatory requirements across all states we have determined that it is necessary to discontinue dealer internet marketing in additional states beyond the original restriction for Florida. Effective immediately we are requesting that dealers stop internet marketing to customers located in the following states: Alaska, California, Idaho, Kentucky, Maryland, Oregon and Washington. Each of these states has specific regulatory requirements that cannot currently be met for internet marketing.
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Upon further review of regulatory requirements across all states we have determined that it is necessary to discontinue dealer internet marketing in additional states beyond the original restriction for Florida. Effective immediately we are requesting that dealers stop internet marketing to customers located in the following states: Alaska, California, Idaho, Kentucky, Maryland, Oregon and Washington. Each of these states has specific regulatory requirements that cannot currently be met for internet marketing.
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05-22-2013, 11:44 AM
#37
GMPP words to us in their letter:
Upon further review of regulatory requirements across all states we have determined that it is necessary to discontinue dealer internet marketing in additional states beyond the original restriction for Florida. Effective immediately we are requesting that dealers stop internet marketing to customers located in the following states: Alaska, California, Idaho, Kentucky, Maryland, Oregon and Washington. Each of these states has specific regulatory requirements that cannot currently be met for internet marketing.
As to the point I made with them, I am not soliciting anyone to buy from me over the internet, I have been doing this for many, many years and have gained many customers who keep coming back and referring me to their friends and relatives and that I just have a good name among Corvette owners who tell people about me and thus they contact me for a quote on a GMPP but this was all to deff ears.
Many states just require a new State Specific Form be sent to the customer upon purchase which I just now have to code the GMPP submission to GM when I do it in the system and you then receive the form to look at and I believe sign and send back to GMPP that you understand the state rules. I am also sending a letter now for signature stating I have sent them to you also and that you understand them fully to protect me.
Upon further review of regulatory requirements across all states we have determined that it is necessary to discontinue dealer internet marketing in additional states beyond the original restriction for Florida. Effective immediately we are requesting that dealers stop internet marketing to customers located in the following states: Alaska, California, Idaho, Kentucky, Maryland, Oregon and Washington. Each of these states has specific regulatory requirements that cannot currently be met for internet marketing.
As to the point I made with them, I am not soliciting anyone to buy from me over the internet, I have been doing this for many, many years and have gained many customers who keep coming back and referring me to their friends and relatives and that I just have a good name among Corvette owners who tell people about me and thus they contact me for a quote on a GMPP but this was all to deff ears.
Many states just require a new State Specific Form be sent to the customer upon purchase which I just now have to code the GMPP submission to GM when I do it in the system and you then receive the form to look at and I believe sign and send back to GMPP that you understand the state rules. I am also sending a letter now for signature stating I have sent them to you also and that you understand them fully to protect me.
Just stop marketing,.. .
I checked with my local dealer and they are able to sell me a GMPP warranty throughout the term of my 3/36 'factory warranty'.. Additionally, this is cross-refrenced on the GMPP site as an FAQ::
http://www.gmprotectionplan.com/faqs.html#purchase
Certainly, i'm no expert here - but from what you posted, it sounds like you're mis-interpreting their note to say.
(1) cease all sales
(2) warranties must be purchased at the time of or connected with a new sale
For your business i hope you get this sorted.. I will be buying a GMPP warranty near the close of my 3/36.
gl
05-22-2013, 02:22 PM
#38
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fa snakes
I have virtually not done any internet sales other than Corvette Forum members contacting me for the last 6 years yet I still got the letter to cease all sales via the internet and yes you can buy from your local dealer since he is a California Dealer just like all my Florida customers now have to buy from a Florida dealer. They were quite specific, do not sell any more in California or Maryland.
I have gotten on 2 of my major competitors sites and they also state they will no longer sell GMPP's in California or Maryland.
I am going to say that 80-85% of my GMPP sales now are previous customers or their family, friends and co-workers. All of my business now is word of mouth sales but I still get the LETTER from them. I am in contact almost daily with my GMPP contact at the Corporate office in Chicago and you think I am frustrated, he is fit to be tied.
I have virtually not done any internet sales other than Corvette Forum members contacting me for the last 6 years yet I still got the letter to cease all sales via the internet and yes you can buy from your local dealer since he is a California Dealer just like all my Florida customers now have to buy from a Florida dealer. They were quite specific, do not sell any more in California or Maryland.
I have gotten on 2 of my major competitors sites and they also state they will no longer sell GMPP's in California or Maryland.
I am going to say that 80-85% of my GMPP sales now are previous customers or their family, friends and co-workers. All of my business now is word of mouth sales but I still get the LETTER from them. I am in contact almost daily with my GMPP contact at the Corporate office in Chicago and you think I am frustrated, he is fit to be tied.
05-23-2013, 08:02 AM
#39
Race Director
fa snakes
I have virtually not done any internet sales other than Corvette Forum members contacting me for the last 6 years yet I still got the letter to cease all sales via the internet and yes you can buy from your local dealer since he is a California Dealer just like all my Florida customers now have to buy from a Florida dealer. They were quite specific, do not sell any more in California or Maryland.
I have gotten on 2 of my major competitors sites and they also state they will no longer sell GMPP's in California or Maryland.
I am going to say that 80-85% of my GMPP sales now are previous customers or their family, friends and co-workers. All of my business now is word of mouth sales but I still get the LETTER from them. I am in contact almost daily with my GMPP contact at the Corporate office in Chicago and you think I am frustrated, he is fit to be tied.
I have virtually not done any internet sales other than Corvette Forum members contacting me for the last 6 years yet I still got the letter to cease all sales via the internet and yes you can buy from your local dealer since he is a California Dealer just like all my Florida customers now have to buy from a Florida dealer. They were quite specific, do not sell any more in California or Maryland.
I have gotten on 2 of my major competitors sites and they also state they will no longer sell GMPP's in California or Maryland.
I am going to say that 80-85% of my GMPP sales now are previous customers or their family, friends and co-workers. All of my business now is word of mouth sales but I still get the LETTER from them. I am in contact almost daily with my GMPP contact at the Corporate office in Chicago and you think I am frustrated, he is fit to be tied.
