548chevelle

Anybody using an SSB Super Start lithium battery? Their 900 CCA weighs 6lbs. Costs $586. I've been using a Braille at 21 lbs with only 550 CCA. No problems.

Red08

I'm not familiar with it, but would like to see what some users have to say about it.

ROUTE 66

I just called a parts store that sells the super start battery. He could not find a super start lithium battery. Would you have a part number for that battery. I would like to replace the one in the Z06.
Thank you..

548chevelle

L-HVT-1 is 900 cca. 2.5kg 7"L x 3.5"W X 6"H $585
L-HVT-6 is 1000 cca 3.0kg $736
L-HVT-2 is 1500 cca 4.1kg

C8-Vette

For $586 is better power the rear wheels!

548chevelle

I'm only looking at this weight-wise. This battery would knock off another 15 lbs which would take me down to 3035 lbs. Less weight is good 5 ways- acceleration, braking, G's in a turn, gas mileage and drivetrain parts breakage.

Mikado463

you obviously have little knowledge of Lithium technology, just look at a simple 'AA' lithium battery vs a standard alkaline variety. For that matter look at a top-of-line Die Hard Platinum replacement........ well in excess of $200

ZR1Cat

And to add to your list: the coolness factor of a high-tech lithium battery!

But like you I wonder how they perform in a practical application.

LawrenceFromTorrance

So what's the warrantee? What's the equivalent HP gain by removing 15 lbs.? What's the expected life time of the battery? How long can it sit without discharging? If you have a small parasitic current draw will the battery hold up as well as a standard battery.
I think I would want to know the answers before investing.

Storx

I have one of these on my DD which is a VW DIESEL engine, I have had zero problems with it starting the diesel engine in below 0 F temps with its 500CCA... the benefit of this battery is that its rated up to 13.6V as standard storage voltage, with my alternator putting out 14.2V while driving.. it actually stops charging at 13.6V instead of 12.8V that my old battery stopped charging past. So when i start the car, the actual starter turns faster due to the higher voltage.


Weight: 1611 grams (3.5 lbs.)
Voltage (Charged): 13.6V
Amperage: 9.2Amp/Hour
Burst Cranking Amps: 500amps

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BALLISTIC-PE...-/161217203480

I have had mine for 2 years now with no issues, I bought it back when it was $300, but now they can be bought as low as $224 shipper which is about the same cost as a typical Lead Acid battery, I bought it because i have a custom compound turbo setup on my car and i wanted to hide the battery inside the bumper... which this battery barely fit.. but did fit.

KneeDragr

Hmm, I wonder if their lifetime will be shorter. I had always understood that LI batteries need a different charging circuit compared to a traditional battery otherwise they would suffer overcharge damage.

Storx

This is true to a point, The reason you dont see Lithium batterys that are specced to be used on automotive engines with ratings of 12.8V like most lead acid batteries is because if you charge to far above the rated voltage it creates heat due to being fully charged and will continue tell it melts the inside of the batteries. They increase the voltage on the automotive lithium batteries to 13.6-13.8V so when an alternator is charging the system it isnt actually overcharging it. My battery manual says it can be charged up to 14.6 volts, but stored capacity is rated at 13.6V because standard alternators are digitally regulated to charge a car between 12.8V on very new cars.. like 2013-2014's to older cars with more tolerance all the way up to 14V... My Mothers Chevy volt charges the 12V battery at EXACTLY 12V and stops at 11.8V as stating that its full. My 95 Dodge Cummins charges at 14.3V, and my VW TDI charges at 14.1V... I plan to put 3 x of these in my truck when they die... 2 x of them can fit in the place of a standard battery they are built pretty nice in quality...

C8-Vette

[QUOTE=Mikado463;1586202937]you obviously have little knowledge of Lithium technology, just look at a simple 'AA' lithium battery vs a standard alkaline variety. For that matter look at a top-of-line Die Hard Platinum replacement........ well in excess of $200[/
Who needs a $500plus battery. I have a Sears Plat for 10 years , cost me $196. If you are trying to save weight ,fast 2 days before a race.

548chevelle

SSB PowerSport Lithium Ion Polymer Batteries are an extremely light weight battery designed for starting applications and are a completely dry battery making them spill-proof and leak-proof. You have to pick one up for yourself to truly understand how light they actually are compared to normal lead acid batteries. They are truly amazing.

A normal lead acid motorcycle battery is designed to last for 200 – 300 cycles, whereas SSB PowerSport Lithium Batteries are designed to last for over 2,000 cycles (more than 10 Years design life). In addition, they can sit unused for over a year without losing charge and can also be charged extremely quickly without damaging the battery.

Unlike many other lithium batteries, SSB PowerSport Lithium Batteries are made using prismatic cells making them not only safe to use, but also boasts higher CCA (cold cranking amps), better cyclic properties and have a longer life. We are aware of only one other brand of lithium starting battery that uses prismatic cells. Other brands generally use cylindrical cells and while they may be a little cheaper due to lower manufacturing costs, they are inferior and are not designed for starting vehicles.

SSB PowerSport is the Pioneer of lithium starting batteries in Australia. We were the first and we are the best. We have been researching, testing and using lithium batteries for over 5 years. We have also purchased and tested almost every other major brand of lithium starting batteries from around the world and have designed SSB PowerSport batteries to be more superior in every aspect. Basically our lithium batteries are the most powerful and lightest lithium starting batteries in the world. While there may be other brands using similar battery cases (even similar colours), be assured that if it doesn’t have the SSB PowerSport logo, it does not offer the same capacity as our lithium batteries.

SSB PowerSport Lithium Batteries are also one of the only Lithium Ion Polymer Batteries that can be charged using normal 12V car battery chargers / alternators. SSB PowerSport Lithium Batteries are also 100% organic, fully recyclable and pollution free, making them an excellent green energy source.

All SSB PowerSport Lithium Batteries come with a true industry leading full 2 year money back guarantee. Do not be fooled by other brands that only offer a 2 year pro-rata warranty. A pro-rata warranty is not a full warranty. For example with a pro-rate warranty you might get 6 months full warranty and then 50% refund if the battery fails from 6 – 12 months and then 25% refund if the battery fails between 12 months - 24 months. SSB PowerSport Lithium Batteries come with a full 2 Year Money Back Guarantee, no questions asked.

We also sell and develop lightweight Lithium Batteries for Professional Race Cars, Race Bikes, Speed Boats Drag Cars & Drag Bikes. Pound for pound, SSB PowerSport Lithium Batteries are the most cost effective way to reduce weight in your vehicle. Our lithium batteries are also designed to have a slightly higher voltage than regular lead acid batteries resulting in a boost in the vehicles performance and response time. We seek regular feedback from people that use our batteries, especially from professional race teams. They all say the same thing “I can’t believe how fast the vehicle starts and how much better everything responds”.

548chevelle

[QUOTE=c6vette;1586204197]So who needs $1900 Pfadt coilovers, $1400 Mantic clutch, $1600 Coleman rotors, $300 Hawke brake pads, $400 Diablo tune, etc, etc?
If nodody needed them these companies wouldn't exist. Besides if I don't spend the money my kids will.

bolivar

For weight savings, never keep more than 5 gallons of gas in it. At something like 6 pounds a gallon, keeping 15 gallons out of the tank will save you 90 pounds. And cost zero.

FortMorganAl

If all you are looking at is weight the battery should be way down on the list of items to change especially at that price. Dropping 15 pounds on a 3,000 pound 430hp car would be identical to adding 2hp. I think I can find a lot of mods for $500 that will add the equivalent of 2 hp and a lot of "trim" like seats that weigh more than 15 pounds and can be removed entirely. You could start with replacing all the glass with Lexan.

BTW, if you insist on reducing battery weight, why not just get a lawn tractor battery. This is a track only car where every pound counts, right?

DOUG @ ECS

I spoke with the rep for these in length at a trade show, they suggested not using them for daily driven usage. They are more for an all out race application.

Impressive though, it's weird to pick up a battery that size and it being so light.

ZR1Cat

I was afraid we'd hear something like that. I wonder how long we'll have to wait for this technology of a super light-weight battery hits the "daily driver" market?

LawrenceFromTorrance

This does not compute.