Clutch spring
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Clutch spring
2013 GS, I was going to replace my clutch spring with a C5 one, but when I searched it I saw posts about a TSB not recommending it due to a "compensation port". However, most of the posts are 5+ years old, so my question is to those who have done this mod; have you had any clutch problems afterward ? How long ago/miles/usage since you did ? Overall opinions ?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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2013 GS, I was going to replace my clutch spring with a C5 one, but when I searched it I saw posts about a TSB not recommending it due to a "compensation port". However, most of the posts are 5+ years old, so my question is to those who have done this mod; have you had any clutch problems afterward ? How long ago/miles/usage since you did ? Overall opinions ?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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I've had six Corvettes to include a 2002 coupe, 2005 coupe and, now, 2013 GS; all manual. The only one that experienced a broken clutch spring was my 2005. I used the clutch a lot on all three, especially when driving to Florida from New Jersey and getting stuck in I95 traffic along with doing the Ranger Method of changing the clutch fluid (pressing the clutch 30-40 times every time I drew out the old and installed the new clutch fluid).
I think I'll leave well enough alone for now.
I think I'll leave well enough alone for now.
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I don't know how to post the link, just Google "C6 clutch pedal spring" and go to the 1st result "broken clutch pedal spring" it is from CF, but way back it 2010.
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2006 z51 here. Took my spring out in late 2006, never replaced it, no problems so far. I prefer the slightly harder clutch action…feels more linear to me. 12k miles since I removed the spring. I periodically use the Ranger method of cleaning out the dirty clutch oil in the reservoir.
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I don't think I saved it in my files, but the TSB was more of a warning that it would impact warranty IIRC. Not sure how a clutch is under warranty, but that was what I thought it was all about. It (the C6 spring) does supposedly provide return of the pedal which affects the life of the clutch, and maybe indirectly (or directly) the life of the trans*. I haven't removed mine, but understand it does create a better "feel," or maybe a different feel.
*Now that I think about it, that may have been the warning re potential claims for the trans where the clutch spring has been removed completely/changed to a different spring.
*Now that I think about it, that may have been the warning re potential claims for the trans where the clutch spring has been removed completely/changed to a different spring.
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I am not thinking about completely removing the spring, just changing it to the C5 one, just to try and improve the "feel" of the pedal.
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Here is the 2008 TSB on the clutch spring:
Subject: Removal of the Clutch Over Center Spring
Models: 1997-2004 Chevrolet C5 Corvette
2005-2008 Chevrolet C6 Corvette
Equipped with a Manual Transmission
Condition/Concern:
It appears that some Corvette owners are removing or disconnecting the clutch over center spring on their vehicles.
This is not a recommended practice and customers should be advised of the implications of such an action.
Recommendation/Instructions:
The clutch master cylinder has a compensation port that is positioned within 1 MM of the top of the stroke. The compensation port allows internal pressure in the clutch hydraulic system to be exhausted into the master cylinder and also provides for system refill as the clutch disc wears.
One purpose of the over center spring is to return the clutch pedal to the very top of the stroke to expose the compensation port. The second purpose of the spring is to provide for the designed clutch pedal feel.
Removing or disconnecting the spring may allow the clutch pedal to hang in an at rest position with the piston short of the compensation port. If the internal pressure is not exhausted the CSC may get stroked too far and a clutch hydraulic system failure may result. The C5 clutch hydraulic systems were built by AP. The C6 systems were manufactured by FTE. Also, the pedal must be in the full up position, with the compensation port exposed, to bleed properly.
Anytime a dealer gets a hydraulic system complaint, the tech should inspect to insure that the spring is in place and properly connected. Related customer complaints might include poor shift performance, improper clutch release or transmission synchronizer damage.
I attached a PDF which includes most of the threads and posts and TSB from years ago.
If nothing else, it a decent read of the discussion, etc. (click on the link inside the PDF)
Subject: Removal of the Clutch Over Center Spring
Models: 1997-2004 Chevrolet C5 Corvette
2005-2008 Chevrolet C6 Corvette
Equipped with a Manual Transmission
Condition/Concern:
It appears that some Corvette owners are removing or disconnecting the clutch over center spring on their vehicles.
This is not a recommended practice and customers should be advised of the implications of such an action.
Recommendation/Instructions:
The clutch master cylinder has a compensation port that is positioned within 1 MM of the top of the stroke. The compensation port allows internal pressure in the clutch hydraulic system to be exhausted into the master cylinder and also provides for system refill as the clutch disc wears.
One purpose of the over center spring is to return the clutch pedal to the very top of the stroke to expose the compensation port. The second purpose of the spring is to provide for the designed clutch pedal feel.
Removing or disconnecting the spring may allow the clutch pedal to hang in an at rest position with the piston short of the compensation port. If the internal pressure is not exhausted the CSC may get stroked too far and a clutch hydraulic system failure may result. The C5 clutch hydraulic systems were built by AP. The C6 systems were manufactured by FTE. Also, the pedal must be in the full up position, with the compensation port exposed, to bleed properly.
Anytime a dealer gets a hydraulic system complaint, the tech should inspect to insure that the spring is in place and properly connected. Related customer complaints might include poor shift performance, improper clutch release or transmission synchronizer damage.
I attached a PDF which includes most of the threads and posts and TSB from years ago.
If nothing else, it a decent read of the discussion, etc. (click on the link inside the PDF)
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I think the recommendation if you don't have the spring in is to occasionally lift the clutch pedal all the way to the top with your foot since it won't come up the last 1/4" or so on its own.
I've had my spring out for 2 years and pick the pedal up with my foot about once per drive out of habit and have had no issues.
I've had my spring out for 2 years and pick the pedal up with my foot about once per drive out of habit and have had no issues.
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2006 z51 here. Took my spring out in late 2006, never replaced it, no problems so far. I prefer the slightly harder clutch action…feels more linear to me. 12k miles since I removed the spring. I periodically use the Ranger method of cleaning out the dirty clutch oil in the reservoir.
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I think the recommendation if you don't have the spring in is to occasionally lift the clutch pedal all the way to the top with your foot since it won't come up the last 1/4" or so on its own.
I've had my spring out for 2 years and pick the pedal up with my foot about once per drive out of habit and have had no issues.
I've had my spring out for 2 years and pick the pedal up with my foot about once per drive out of habit and have had no issues.
2006 z51 here. Took my spring out in late 2006, never replaced it, no problems so far. I prefer the slightly harder clutch action…feels more linear to me. 12k miles since I removed the spring. I periodically use the Ranger method of cleaning out the dirty clutch oil in the reservoir.