Ceramic Brake Pads, what did I do wrong?
#1
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Ceramic Brake Pads, what did I do wrong?
Replaced my stockers that had 22,000 miles on them, looked great by the way. They were squealers though so I spent the 100 bucks and bought the Hawk ceramic pads. Finished the install last night and did the break in procedure by the letter...no squealing. I was excited....went out today for my 25 mile cruise. The squealing is worse now!!
For the record, I only replaced the fronts, didn't think the rears were the problem.
I've read quite a few posts here of people who fixed their squealing issue by going ceramic so I'm stumped.
Help me out if you can.
For the record, I only replaced the fronts, didn't think the rears were the problem.
I've read quite a few posts here of people who fixed their squealing issue by going ceramic so I'm stumped.
Help me out if you can.
#2
Replaced my stockers that had 22,000 miles on them, looked great by the way. They were squealers though so I spent the 100 bucks and bought the Hawk ceramic pads. Finished the install last night and did the break in procedure by the letter...no squealing. I was excited....went out today for my 25 mile cruise. The squealing is worse now!!
For the record, I only replaced the fronts, didn't think the rears were the problem.
I've read quite a few posts here of people who fixed their squealing issue by going ceramic so I'm stumped.
Help me out if you can.
For the record, I only replaced the fronts, didn't think the rears were the problem.
I've read quite a few posts here of people who fixed their squealing issue by going ceramic so I'm stumped.
Help me out if you can.
#3
Le Mans Master
When I changed the pads on my C6 at _102,000 miles_ they still had 30% on them.... changed them anyway.... brakes never squealed - ever - in the more than 126,000 miles and seven (7) years that I owned the car. In fact, none of my five Corvettes ever squealed in more than 600,000 miles. Wonder why some cars do it, others don't?
#5
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When I changed the pads on my C6 at _102,000 miles_ they still had 30% on them.... changed them anyway.... brakes never squealed - ever - in the more than 126,000 miles and seven (7) years that I owned the car. In fact, none of my five Corvettes ever squealed in more than 600,000 miles. Wonder why some cars do it, others don't?
#6
Race Director
When I changed the pads on my C6 at _102,000 miles_ they still had 30% on them.... changed them anyway.... brakes never squealed - ever - in the more than 126,000 miles and seven (7) years that I owned the car. In fact, none of my five Corvettes ever squealed in more than 600,000 miles. Wonder why some cars do it, others don't?
Been a few to over the 50 years of driving.
I am easy on brakes though, could that be a factor?
#7
Race Director
#9
Burning Brakes
#12
When my OEM pads are cold, they don't squeak. However, as soon as they warm up at all, then here comes the squeaking.
I don't know if you have manual or automatic (I have the A6), but I've found that if I throw the transmission into neutral, then I don't have the squeaking.
Steven
I don't know if you have manual or automatic (I have the A6), but I've found that if I throw the transmission into neutral, then I don't have the squeaking.
Steven
#13
Drifting
Replaced my stockers that had 22,000 miles on them, looked great by the way. They were squealers though so I spent the 100 bucks and bought the Hawk ceramic pads. Finished the install last night and did the break in procedure by the letter...no squealing. I was excited....went out today for my 25 mile cruise. The squealing is worse now!!
For the record, I only replaced the fronts, didn't think the rears were the problem.
I've read quite a few posts here of people who fixed their squealing issue by going ceramic so I'm stumped.
Help me out if you can.
For the record, I only replaced the fronts, didn't think the rears were the problem.
I've read quite a few posts here of people who fixed their squealing issue by going ceramic so I'm stumped.
Help me out if you can.
1. Do the break-in procedure again.
2. When I had mine installed the dealer said he 'burnished' them, but I did it on my way again anyway. Over the next week I was still getting noise, so I emailed the place I got them from and they told me they heard that sometimes it can take 150 to 200 miles for the squealing to go away-----they were right on the money.
3. Someone also told me that if the car sits for a long time (e.g., over the winter) the squeal may come back, but will go away if you burnish the pads again.
4. After the 175 to 200 mile mark I have not had a peep---even if the car sat for 6-12 weeks in the winter.
Be curious to know (1) which Hawk pads you have, and (2) if the above works for you.
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Replaced my stockers that had 22,000 miles on them, looked great by the way. They were squealers though so I spent the 100 bucks and bought the Hawk ceramic pads. Finished the install last night and did the break in procedure by the letter...no squealing. I was excited....went out today for my 25 mile cruise. The squealing is worse now!!
For the record, I only replaced the fronts, didn't think the rears were the problem.
I've read quite a few posts here of people who fixed their squealing issue by going ceramic so I'm stumped.
Help me out if you can.
For the record, I only replaced the fronts, didn't think the rears were the problem.
I've read quite a few posts here of people who fixed their squealing issue by going ceramic so I'm stumped.
Help me out if you can.
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Internet's largest retailer of Carbotech Performance Brake Pads.
PH:216-780-8825.
Email: sales@ampdautosport.com
Web Site & Direct ordering http://ampdautosport.com/
All major CC and Pay Pal accepted.
Check out Promo code:z28
#15
Race Car Tech
You can buy small tubes of brake grease from any parts store.
I changed from OEM pads to OEM ceramics, didn't do anything to the rotors, put grease on the back of the pads where the 2 surfaces come in contact, and I bedded the brakes, and no squeals whatsoever.
The originals dd squeal from time to time. The originals still had 3/4 pad thickness when I changed them out for ceramics.
Last edited by 4SUMERZ; 05-04-2014 at 01:12 PM.
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I just installed powder coated calipers and Hawk ceramic pads (for low dust) last weekend. I was worried about squealing but that was not a problem on the old pads. I like you, followed all procedures to the letter during installation and break in. No problems. Make sure you put enough high temp grease on the rear of the pads. I did not do this when changing pads on my Dodge truck. They squealed like a stuck pig! They initially started to get loud after one day of driving. Good luck. Can be very annoying.
#18
Retired & lovin' it!
I just installed powder coated calipers and Hawk ceramic pads (for low dust) last weekend. I was worried about squealing but that was not a problem on the old pads. I like you, followed all procedures to the letter during installation and break in. No problems. Make sure you put enough high temp grease on the rear of the pads. I did not do this when changing pads on my Dodge truck. They squealed like a stuck pig! They initially started to get loud after one day of driving. Good luck. Can be very annoying.
#19
Race Director
Occasionally after a day of repeated low speed/easy/gentle stops my Hawk Ceramics will begin to squeal a bit.
Going through an abbreviated version of the bedding process quiets them down again.
Going through an abbreviated version of the bedding process quiets them down again.
#20
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Thanks for all the tips guys. I'll try the break in process again and hope the squeal goes away. I did use the provided anti-squeal lube that Hawk sends with their pads so that shouldn't be the issue. Also, someone had asked if I did anything to my rotors, answer is no. Does that affect anything?