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Count me in with a driver side fuel leak, a stinky garage and a filed complaint for NHTSA.
48000 miles and delivery 11-07.
Scheduled an appointment with my Chevy dealer for next Tuesday.
Life always has a way of bringing you back to reality.
No problem with my 05 but it appears it mainly 08's that are affected. One click and it's full.
There is a little smell when I start it up but goes away. Noticed my exhaust a little black but it runs great, very powerful matter of fact much faster than the 2015. Drove 2 of them and mine would leave them in the dust.........and mine is a automatic. Only problem I had was the drivers seat module........cost a bit over 700.00 to have it fixed.
I just now submitted the complaint form. For the first time this morning, there were gas fumes in the cabin that were very strong. My car is an 05. Fuel pump was replaced in 2009 by the dealer when new fuel level sensors were installed.
2008 Z06 - fuel smell for awhile. Just read this thread and replaced my fuel pump - the Amazon deal on the Delphi appears to be the best deal. Transfer tube is a huge pita, otherwise not too bad . Complaint submitted
Just a thought and a question to provoke some discussion....
As a motorcyclist, I've been aware of a similar issue that Ducati has been having with their plastic tanks. Seems they can swell and deform, causing leaks around the fittings for the in-line fuel pump. The tanks that are affected by this problem are reportedly made of PA6 polyamide plastic and were manufactured from 2005 to 2010. Speculation is that it's a function of ethanol fuel, as it seems to be a problem mostly in the US and less common in the euro arena. Ducati has offered many customers new tanks to replace the bad one, but some folks have continued to see swelling problems with the new ones.
So, my question: Is it possible that the plastic tanks and fittings on the Vette are experiencing the same problem--that of swelling and distortion? Would it be something that could be avoided by using non-ethanol fuel? Or is it simply an issue of poor QC by GM?
Just a thought and a question to provoke some discussion....
As a motorcyclist, I've been aware of a similar issue that Ducati has been having with their plastic tanks. Seems they can swell and deform, causing leaks around the fittings for the in-line fuel pump. The tanks that are affected by this problem are reportedly made of PA6 polyamide plastic and were manufactured from 2005 to 2010. Speculation is that it's a function of ethanol fuel, as it seems to be a problem mostly in the US and less common in the euro arena. Ducati has offered many customers new tanks to replace the bad one, but some folks have continued to see swelling problems with the new ones.
So, my question: Is it possible that the plastic tanks and fittings on the Vette are experiencing the same problem--that of swelling and distortion? Would it be something that could be avoided by using non-ethanol fuel? Or is it simply an issue of poor QC by GM?
I had this conversation with NHTSA over a year ago, and they do believe it is linked to ethanol blended gasoline. However, I don't have any actual info on the type of plastic used in the fuel pumps so I can't say for sure, but the initial evaluation was that ethanol could very well be playing a part in this. The only way we will ever really know for sure is if NHTSA opens a full blown investigation into the problem, and the only way that will happen is if they get a high enough number of formal complaints filed from owners.
I had this conversation with NHTSA over a year ago, and they do believe it is linked to ethanol blended gasoline. However, I don't have any actual info on the type of plastic used in the fuel pumps so I can't say for sure, but the initial evaluation was that ethanol could very well be playing a part in this. The only way we will ever really know for sure is if NHTSA opens a full blown investigation into the problem, and the only way that will happen is if they get a high enough number of formal complaints filed from owners.
Is California the only state using 10% ethanol gasoline?
The feds mandated inclusion of 10% ethanol in US gas as part of the Renewable Energy program, ostensibly to lessen dependence on foreign oil. Not getting into the political or financial stupidity of the RE act, but what you end up with is fuel that has higher oxygenation (cleaner emissions) and octane rating due to the ethanol, but a slightly lower BTU/energy density than straight gas. The really big downside to it is that 1) the ethanol fraction now has the ability to absorb/dissolve water from tank condensation, and 2) there are some plastics and rubbers that don't play well with the ethanol.
If you live in an area with dramatic cold swings and high relative humidity, it would be good practice come fall/winter to use Stabil or some other fuel additive designed to minimize the emulsion problems of a gas/ethanol/water mix, especially if the fuel will be sitting unused in your tank for months. Alternatively, as the end of my driving season nears, I always make sure the last couple of fill-ups are with 100% gas. Getting more difficult to find, but still available, especially if you live in areas near water and marinas.
The feds mandated inclusion of 10% ethanol in US gas as part of the Renewable Energy program, ostensibly to lessen dependence on foreign oil. Not getting into the political or financial stupidity of the RE act, but what you end up with is fuel that has higher oxygenation (cleaner emissions) and octane rating due to the ethanol, but a slightly lower BTU/energy density than straight gas. The really big downside to it is that 1) the ethanol fraction now has the ability to absorb/dissolve water from tank condensation, and 2) there are some plastics and rubbers that don't play well with the ethanol.
If you live in an area with dramatic cold swings and high relative humidity, it would be good practice come fall/winter to use Stabil or some other fuel additive designed to minimize the emulsion problems of a gas/ethanol/water mix, especially if the fuel will be sitting unused in your tank for months. Alternatively, as the end of my driving season nears, I always make sure the last couple of fill-ups are with 100% gas. Getting more difficult to find, but still available, especially if you live in areas near water and marinas.
So it isn't a California thing from the extremists of the environment. It's a federal thing.
i too had this issue…i filled out the complaint form a few months ago and got my issue resolved (on my own not because of the complaint form)…after 2 separate dealer visits, 2 separate performance shop visits…none of them "smelled" it nor said they had issues…it was clearly there…i took it to a mechanic i was introduced to and he smelled it in a heartbeat…i bought the fuel pump from cultrag, handed it to my mechanic, and sure as ****…cracks on the fitting…below are some pics (sorry for the blurriness)…i still have the fuel pump in case its ever needed or there ends up being a recall that i can get refunded for my friggin expenses on this (over 2k at least with the multiple tests, car rentals, etc)….
Last edited by sla07; 09-26-2015 at 12:53 PM.
Reason: clarified issue resolved on my own not due to complaint form
You pictures clearly show the leak in the same place others have experienced. They are the best pictures yet posted. Is there any way you can send those photos to the NHTSA?
You pictures clearly show the leak in the same place others have experienced. They are the best pictures yet posted. Is there any way you can send those photos to the NHTSA?
Thanks, Mark
if you guys have somewhere for me to send i will gladly do so since i also took a pic of the part number as you see. i dont recall a section for attachments when i filled out the complaint, but i hadnt fixed it out of pocket yet. i still have the part boxed up so its very easy to even use that as "show and tell" as needed.
Isn't it likely the replacement units will fail in the same high dollar manner? Anybody doing anything to reduce the chance of that? I would hate to go to that much trouble or expense and not know whether or not it's going to last.
09-04-2015, 12:06 PM
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