Take your vehicle in for the recall, or be responsible for future damage
#1
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Take your vehicle in for the recall, or be responsible for future damage
After reading this a.m. in the AZ Star, I think that it should be criminal for not responding to a recall. The sited situation was the man in TX that had bought a used Honda and killed by the air-bag problem--shrapnell in the neck-- and it had been sold to him, his being unaware of the problem.
Not certain if low-beam problem is and has been life threatening, but it any event I am protecting myself and the future owner by getting the recall work done; I have paper-work evidence
What do you people think? It seems to me it is a personal responsibily of ownership.
Not certain if low-beam problem is and has been life threatening, but it any event I am protecting myself and the future owner by getting the recall work done; I have paper-work evidence
What do you people think? It seems to me it is a personal responsibily of ownership.
Last edited by Jayhawk62; 02-25-2015 at 02:19 PM.
#2
Melting Slicks
I have to wait for the spring. Won't take mine out in this weather.
Roads here on Long Island are awful. Full of salt and potholes.
My luck, I'll take it to the dealer and bend a rim.........
Roads here on Long Island are awful. Full of salt and potholes.
My luck, I'll take it to the dealer and bend a rim.........
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I agree: it is a personal responsibility. That means to me that it's also a personal responsibility of the next owner of a car as well to check and see if there are any outstanding (and left undone) recall corrections.
"I didn't know there was a recall," is about as bad as "I didn't know the law said X." Forget the law or legalities for a minute, the words, caveat emptor, have been around for a long time, and imo still apply to every successive owner of a car.
"I didn't know there was a recall," is about as bad as "I didn't know the law said X." Forget the law or legalities for a minute, the words, caveat emptor, have been around for a long time, and imo still apply to every successive owner of a car.
#4
Racer
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I understand your situation; I am here in the sun Our cars, I think, could be classified as "toys" but still can/could be lethal to owners.
What really bothers me is the "used car" buyer who is unaware of a recall and really cannot afford a new car. Again the poor get the brunt of a definite problem.
Carfax does not cover this as far as I know, but could not there be a line about "this car was subject of a recall, be certain this was fixed".
What really bothers me is the "used car" buyer who is unaware of a recall and really cannot afford a new car. Again the poor get the brunt of a definite problem.
Carfax does not cover this as far as I know, but could not there be a line about "this car was subject of a recall, be certain this was fixed".
#5
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Regardless of financial ability -- why is it NOT the responsibility of the new owner to check this out????
Call or drive to dealer. Ask question. Problem solved. 15 minutes, tops.
I guess it is just WAY too much to ask that people take even the smallest amount of responsibility for their own good.
Call or drive to dealer. Ask question. Problem solved. 15 minutes, tops.
I guess it is just WAY too much to ask that people take even the smallest amount of responsibility for their own good.
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I understand your situation; I am here in the sun Our cars, I think, could be classified as "toys" but still can/could be lethal to owners.
What really bothers me is the "used car" buyer who is unaware of a recall and really cannot afford a new car. Again the poor get the brunt of a definite problem.
Carfax does not cover this as far as I know, but could not there be a line about "this car was subject of a recall, be certain this was fixed".
What really bothers me is the "used car" buyer who is unaware of a recall and really cannot afford a new car. Again the poor get the brunt of a definite problem.
Carfax does not cover this as far as I know, but could not there be a line about "this car was subject of a recall, be certain this was fixed".
And it's not just automobiles, thousands of recalls that can cause injury or death. People need to do their homework.........
http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/
#7
Racer
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But all "people" do not do their homework or due diligence in research of what they are buying; they trust--the seller/dealer.
The most vulnerable in our society are the poor, uneducated, or those maybe not very fluent in English.
Being a social liberal, I think we should help people protect themselves. That means to me that any seller assures/proves to the buyer that the car is, if subject-to-recall, fixed.
Government (law) does a lot to protect society.....I do not see how this would cost a lot of $ and it would help people.
The most vulnerable in our society are the poor, uneducated, or those maybe not very fluent in English.
Being a social liberal, I think we should help people protect themselves. That means to me that any seller assures/proves to the buyer that the car is, if subject-to-recall, fixed.
Government (law) does a lot to protect society.....I do not see how this would cost a lot of $ and it would help people.
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But all "people" do not do their homework or due diligence in research of what they are buying; they trust--the seller/dealer.
The most vulnerable in our society are the poor, uneducated, or those maybe not very fluent in English.
Being a social liberal, I think we should help people protect themselves. That means to me that any seller assures/proves to the buyer that the car is, if subject-to-recall, fixed.
Government (law) does a lot to protect society.....I do not see how this would cost a lot of $ and it would help people.
The most vulnerable in our society are the poor, uneducated, or those maybe not very fluent in English.
Being a social liberal, I think we should help people protect themselves. That means to me that any seller assures/proves to the buyer that the car is, if subject-to-recall, fixed.
Government (law) does a lot to protect society.....I do not see how this would cost a lot of $ and it would help people.
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But all "people" do not do their homework or due diligence in research of what they are buying; they trust--the seller/dealer.
The most vulnerable in our society are the poor, uneducated, or those maybe not very fluent in English.
Being a social liberal, I think we should help people protect themselves. That means to me that any seller assures/proves to the buyer that the car is, if subject-to-recall, fixed.
Government (law) does a lot to protect society.....I do not see how this would cost a lot of $ and it would help people.
The most vulnerable in our society are the poor, uneducated, or those maybe not very fluent in English.
Being a social liberal, I think we should help people protect themselves. That means to me that any seller assures/proves to the buyer that the car is, if subject-to-recall, fixed.
Government (law) does a lot to protect society.....I do not see how this would cost a lot of $ and it would help people.
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The first thing I do when I get a used vehicle is have a dealer run the service records on the car to know what has been done and to find out what recall it needs to be brought in for. The guy that bought the Honda didn't take reasonable care to find out what his vehicle needed.
#11
Melting Slicks
Wow....just what we need.....more Government Regulations.....tongue firmly planted in cheek.....
OP do you think that is why cars sold here in Arizona have an "as is "sticker."
Surely you are not expecting the rest of who are responsible... to make sure the uneducated are somehow our responsibility or the cars fault and not the owners being a smart consumer/buyer.....
You "lost me at Social Liberal"...
OP do you think that is why cars sold here in Arizona have an "as is "sticker."
Surely you are not expecting the rest of who are responsible... to make sure the uneducated are somehow our responsibility or the cars fault and not the owners being a smart consumer/buyer.....
You "lost me at Social Liberal"...
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No way am I responsible for my own actions (or inactions). It is always somebody else's fault! But not to worry; the government and/or my lawyer will take care of everything.
Oy veh!
Oy veh!
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#16
Vistoso, you are all over the map on this:
So it is Carfax's responsibility, the seller's responsibility and the government's responsibility to ensure all recall repairs have been made?
and if that isn't done, people should go to jail?
Carfax does not cover this as far as I know, but could not there be a line about "this car was subject of a recall, be certain this was fixed".
That means to me that any seller assures/proves to the buyer that the car is, if subject-to-recall, fixed.
Government (law) does a lot to protect society.....I do not see how this would cost a lot of $ and it would help people.
That means to me that any seller assures/proves to the buyer that the car is, if subject-to-recall, fixed.
Government (law) does a lot to protect society.....I do not see how this would cost a lot of $ and it would help people.
I think that it should be criminal for not responding to a recall
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Wow....just what we need.....more Government Regulations.....tongue firmly planted in cheek.....
OP do you think that is why cars sold here in Arizona have an "as is "sticker."
Surely you are not expecting the rest of who are responsible... to make sure the uneducated are somehow our responsibility or the cars fault and not the owners being a smart consumer/buyer.....
You "lost me at Social Liberal"...
OP do you think that is why cars sold here in Arizona have an "as is "sticker."
Surely you are not expecting the rest of who are responsible... to make sure the uneducated are somehow our responsibility or the cars fault and not the owners being a smart consumer/buyer.....
You "lost me at Social Liberal"...
#18
Race Car Tech
After reading this a.m. in the AZ Star, I think that it should be criminal for not responding to a recall. The sited situation was the man in TX that had bought a used Honda and killed by the air-bag problem--shrapnell in the neck-- and it had been sold to him, his being unaware of the problem.
Not certain if low-beam problem is and has been life threatening, but it any event I am protecting myself and the future owner by getting the recall work done; I have paper-work evidence
What do you people think? It seems to me it is a personal responsibily of ownership.
Not certain if low-beam problem is and has been life threatening, but it any event I am protecting myself and the future owner by getting the recall work done; I have paper-work evidence
What do you people think? It seems to me it is a personal responsibily of ownership.
It is just as much a responsibility of a buyer of any vehicle to get the VIN # checked out by a dealer, or someone that can get recall and technical service bulletin information based on the VIN.
I did it when I bought my corvette, just so I would know what had been done to the car, and if there was any outstanding recalls.
That is why belonging to a car forum is beneficial, because one can ask the question, or the info is already in place.
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I am DEFINITELY NOT A LIBERAL and we have far too many laws and rules. As far as the recalls on your vehicles go, if you don't want to do it it's up to you BUT BUT BUT that recall notice you got in the mail could be making you aware of a potentially dangerous defect. If you sell your car and don't disclose this to the new owner you can't hide behind caviot emptor! Yes it is the new owners responsibility to have the car checked out but ANY lawyer worth his salt will have your butt sued for not disclosing faults of any kind to the new owner. He doesn't have to prove you got the recall letter, all he has to prove is you didn't check for a recall. These laws are in place to protect the ignorant. You think you have nothing to worry about but you do. Some of the awards being handed down by liberal thinking judges today would amaze you. Common sense is not so common.