Converted 2005 to 2012 Centennial Steering Wheel---Problem Never Addressed on Forum
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
Converted 2005 to 2012 Centennial Steering Wheel---Problem Never Addressed on Forum
So I converted my 2005 Steering to the 2012 Centennial Alcantra Steering. I was told all I needed was the 2007-2013 clock spring and airbag to do the conversion. I swapped the clock spring/airbag/steering wheel but encountered an issue that is not discussed in the DIY thread. Since the new steering has steering wheel radio controls, there are several new wires that don't adapt to the 2005-2006 Corvette. The 2005-2006 only has a 4 prong connector (but 2 wires---yellow and grey) to make the horn work on the steering. The new 2007-2013 has 8 prongs and does not connect.
Anyway, I obviously could not connect these 2 wires, so I left it unplugged but connected the big yellow airbag plug that is a direct connect to make sure all is well. Everything is fine (no airbag light/CEL), but the horn does NOT work.
Is there a solution to make my horn work at least? I don't really care about the steering controls but obviously need my horn.
Can anyone help so I can at least get my horn to work? Anyone know which prongs are for the horn?
Here are some pics of the issue.....
Anyway, I obviously could not connect these 2 wires, so I left it unplugged but connected the big yellow airbag plug that is a direct connect to make sure all is well. Everything is fine (no airbag light/CEL), but the horn does NOT work.
Is there a solution to make my horn work at least? I don't really care about the steering controls but obviously need my horn.
Can anyone help so I can at least get my horn to work? Anyone know which prongs are for the horn?
Here are some pics of the issue.....
Last edited by dr.stephan; 04-05-2015 at 08:15 AM.
#2
Le Mans Master
I assume you've plugged in the connector for the new wheel under the airbag. Now you'll have to cut off the *under-dash* connector on the old 2005 clockspring harness (the one you removed), and splice that old 4-position female connector onto the new *under-dash* clocksping harness (the one you just installed) so you can plug it into your cars main harness 4-pin male connector shown in your 2nd photo.
I don't have the colors/pinouts of the ground and horn wires handy right now, but if someone doesn't chime in with them, I'll look them up later.
I don't have the colors/pinouts of the ground and horn wires handy right now, but if someone doesn't chime in with them, I'll look them up later.
#3
Team Owner
I think if you added an '07+ column harness it would take care of the problem but maybe not.
I don't remember what all is in this DIY but if you didn't see it already it might help:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-finished.html
I don't remember what all is in this DIY but if you didn't see it already it might help:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-finished.html
#4
Racer
Thread Starter
I assume you've plugged in the connector for the new wheel under the airbag. Now you'll have to cut off the *under-dash* connector on the old 2005 clockspring harness (the one you removed), and splice that old 4-position female connector onto the new *under-dash* clocksping harness (the one you just installed) so you can plug it into your cars main harness 4-pin male connector shown in your 2nd photo.
I don't have the colors/pinouts of the ground and horn wires handy right now, but if someone doesn't chime in with them, I'll look them up later.
I don't have the colors/pinouts of the ground and horn wires handy right now, but if someone doesn't chime in with them, I'll look them up later.
Originally Posted by RickT
I think if you added an '07+ column harness it would take care of the problem but maybe not.
I don't remember what all is in this DIY but if you didn't see it already it might help:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-finished.html
I don't remember what all is in this DIY but if you didn't see it already it might help:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-finished.html
Thanks Rick. I have a complete custom aftermarket audio/bluetooth setup (Kenwood 9990HD head unit), so I don't think I could get the steering controls to work regardless. I just want the horn to work......
#5
Le Mans Master
Looks like the horn is the GRAY wire in the 2007 clockspring harness, in position "A" of the 8-way under-dash connector shown in your picture #3.
Still looking for which of the two pins in the 2005 body harness is the horn. From my notes, it *looks* like its a TAN wire, but if you have a test light, you could see which one has +12v (with the car powered off) -- I think that would be it.
I won't have access to my 2005-6 service manuals till I get home sometime tomorrow -- if you still need the info at that time, I'll have a look.
Still looking for which of the two pins in the 2005 body harness is the horn. From my notes, it *looks* like its a TAN wire, but if you have a test light, you could see which one has +12v (with the car powered off) -- I think that would be it.
I won't have access to my 2005-6 service manuals till I get home sometime tomorrow -- if you still need the info at that time, I'll have a look.
Last edited by Kent1999; 04-05-2015 at 01:49 AM.
#6
Melting Slicks
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...questions.html
gray to brown and pink to black. well..that's from the 05 harness to the 06 clock spring. yours may be different.
gray to brown and pink to black. well..that's from the 05 harness to the 06 clock spring. yours may be different.
Last edited by tennblkc6; 04-05-2015 at 07:47 AM.
#7
Racer
Thread Starter
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...questions.html
gray to brown and pink to black. well..that's from the 05 harness to the 06 clock spring. yours may be different.
gray to brown and pink to black. well..that's from the 05 harness to the 06 clock spring. yours may be different.
The 2005 only has 2 plugs into a 4 plug harness. Looks like they were already thinking of 06 change with the 05 4-plug harness.
Here is the 2005. There is only a Yellow/Tan wire and a Grey Wire. PLEASE help anyone with access to the service manual/info/ect......
Not sure if you have an 05 manual Kent?
Last edited by dr.stephan; 04-05-2015 at 08:16 AM.
#8
Burning Brakes
I just did this yesterday, except mine is an 06. If you didn't buy the column harness, you have to remove the pins from the gray 8 pin connector and re pin them into your old black 4 pin connector from your original clock spring. You don't have to cut anything. Your black connector should be labeled A,B,C,D or 1,2,3,4. Pin the 4 wires from the gray connector locations A,B,C,D in to the old black connector so it will plug in to the mating connector under the column. A-A or 1, B-B or 2, C-C or 3, D-D or 4. The other 3 wires are for the radio controls.
This link probably explains it better. Pm me if I can help you further.
https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?...65&app=WordPdf
This link probably explains it better. Pm me if I can help you further.
https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?...65&app=WordPdf
Last edited by Xtremespeed; 04-05-2015 at 11:31 AM.
#9
Burning Brakes
I meant to add that in order to use the stereo controls, you will have to either build a harness to extend the other 3 wires from the gray connector to the stereo plug or replace the column harness. Extending 3 wires is easy and much cheaper. You would also need an 07 or newer radio that will accept the inputs or an aftermarket radio with an adapter for steering wheel controls.
Edit: Missed the part about the aftermarket radio. You can use a pac adapter with the 3 wires left over in the gray connector for steering wheel radio controls.
Edit: Missed the part about the aftermarket radio. You can use a pac adapter with the 3 wires left over in the gray connector for steering wheel radio controls.
Last edited by Xtremespeed; 04-05-2015 at 11:38 AM.
#10
Racer
Thread Starter
I just did this yesterday, except mine is an 06. If you didn't buy the column harness, you have to remove the pins from the gray 8 pin connector and re pin them into your old black 4 pin connector from your original clock spring. You don't have to cut anything. Your black connector should be labeled A,B,C,D or 1,2,3,4. Pin the 4 wires from the gray connector locations A,B,C,D in to the old black connector so it will plug in to the mating connector under the column. A-A or 1, B-B or 2, C-C or 3, D-D or 4. The other 3 wires are for the radio controls.
This link probably explains it better. Pm me if I can help you further.
https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?...65&app=WordPdf
This link probably explains it better. Pm me if I can help you further.
https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?...65&app=WordPdf
#11
Racer
Thread Starter
BTW,
Some crappy pics. Love this steering compared to the old dough boy. Could never call this an 05 Interior.....
My custom audio set up (that's a 1 piece box fitting infront of the convertible top. Was a pain, but worth it. Had the box red-stitched to match.
Some crappy pics. Love this steering compared to the old dough boy. Could never call this an 05 Interior.....
My custom audio set up (that's a 1 piece box fitting infront of the convertible top. Was a pain, but worth it. Had the box red-stitched to match.
#12
Racer
Thread Starter
I meant to add that in order to use the stereo controls, you will have to either build a harness to extend the other 3 wires from the gray connector to the stereo plug or replace the column harness. Extending 3 wires is easy and much cheaper. You would also need an 07 or newer radio that will accept the inputs or an aftermarket radio with an adapter for steering wheel controls.
Edit: Missed the part about the aftermarket radio. You can use a pac adapter with the 3 wires left over in the gray connector for steering wheel radio controls.
Edit: Missed the part about the aftermarket radio. You can use a pac adapter with the 3 wires left over in the gray connector for steering wheel radio controls.
Thanks xtreme. I appreciate the onedrive images tremendously. That's why this forum rules
#14
Instructor
I just did this yesterday, except mine is an 06. If you didn't buy the column harness, you have to remove the pins from the gray 8 pin connector and re pin them into your old black 4 pin connector from your original clock spring. You don't have to cut anything. Your black connector should be labeled A,B,C,D or 1,2,3,4. Pin the 4 wires from the gray connector locations A,B,C,D in to the old black connector so it will plug in to the mating connector under the column. A-A or 1, B-B or 2, C-C or 3, D-D or 4. The other 3 wires are for the radio controls.
This link probably explains it better. Pm me if I can help you further.
https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?...65&app=WordPdf
This link probably explains it better. Pm me if I can help you further.
https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?...65&app=WordPdf
Kudos to you man. i just did the upgrade from a 06 paddle shift steering to 2012 paddle shift steering. new steering plus a 07+ clockspring, rest was just like you described.
thank you for taking your time and writing this up
#15
Excellent write up !!! I just added the SWC for stereo and blue tooth to my custom wheel in my 2006 Z06. Clock spring ordered and I'll modify my existing steering column wiring harness for the 3 additional connections to connect to a PAC-SWI-PS which will control the new Pioneer HU.