Who has gone froma wide body to a narrow body?
#1
Drifting
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Who has gone froma wide body to a narrow body?
A couple of months ago, I traded my 2013 GS in. In the last few weeks I was missing having a Vette and found a beautiful 2008 CRM Vert that I loved. It's not a GS, nor is it a Z51 but it is a 3LT with NPP and HUD. I am totally in love with it. I am no longer concerned about tires, it rides like a dream and I know I am going to take crap for this, but it seems faster than the GS. Maybe it's gearing or I just spent too much time in my Sonata. I am not hating on the GS because I loved my 13 and that body style too but I am very happy with a narrow body now. Maybe for more practical reasons.
#2
Le Mans Master
Would not be surprised that it is a little faster. It weights less then your GS and they both have the LS3. Also did you have the NPP on the GS. if not, there is an additional 6HP.
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There are a lot of good things about the base narrow body. It is a great looking design, tires are cheaper and more varied. Both are good looking, great driving cars. I am happy with my 07, it has been a great car. 150,000 miles of smiles and I am happier now than the day I bought it.
#4
Le Mans Master
I wouldn't be surprised if after a period of driving something else, the 'new' vette felt faster than you remember, but the GM specs say that the GS is just a little faster than the base (0-60 is stated in GM materials as 3.95 sec for the GS vs. 4.2 for the base).
If you enjoy it, thats all that matters -- its still a Vette!
(Now batten down the hatches for the rush of GS-haters who insist that the GS is slower! lol)
If you enjoy it, thats all that matters -- its still a Vette!
(Now batten down the hatches for the rush of GS-haters who insist that the GS is slower! lol)
#5
Drifting
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I wouldn't be surprised if after a period of driving something else, the 'new' vette felt faster than you remember, but the GM specs say that the GS is just a little faster than the base (0-60 is stated in GM materials as 3.95 sec for the GS vs. 4.2 for the base).
If you enjoy it, thats all that matters -- its still a Vette!
(Now batten down the hatches for the rush of GS-haters who insist that the GS is slower! lol)
If you enjoy it, thats all that matters -- its still a Vette!
(Now batten down the hatches for the rush of GS-haters who insist that the GS is slower! lol)
I accept what you say above. I am simply so thrilled to be back in a Vette that I think it feels faster.
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With the same engine, it can only be faster if the gearing is different in the trans or the differential. I believe Z51 cars, which the GS is, have different ratios.
I accept what you say above. I am simply so thrilled to be back in a Vette that I think it feels faster.
I accept what you say above. I am simply so thrilled to be back in a Vette that I think it feels faster.
#7
Le Mans Master
With the same engine, it can only be faster if the gearing is different in the trans or the differential. I believe Z51 cars, which the GS is, have different ratios.
I accept what you say above. I am simply so thrilled to be back in a Vette that I think it feels faster.
I accept what you say above. I am simply so thrilled to be back in a Vette that I think it feels faster.
Enjoy, and don't forget to post up some pics of the new addition!
#9
Intermediate
The GS is about 100 lbs heavier than the base model. It's faster than the base on a winding road course, but in straight line, the base is quicker. I've beat a couple GS's on the street with my 2013 base, but only by a fender.
#10
Melting Slicks
The speed has to be approximately the same, if it weights more its marginal and the wider tires and lower center of gravity makes up for it. Honestly, its a drivers race at this point....I had a 2008 and now the Grandsport. Loved them both and each had its own appeal, no reason to hate or think one is better than the other.
Were LS3 brothers....
Were LS3 brothers....
#11
Le Mans Master
From the Chevrolet 2012 Corvette brochure:
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#14
Race Director
Went from the base to the GS due to the w/b look. That Said, I think the base model is excellent. Can't go wrong with either model.
#15
Drifting
The base is not faster than the GS, according to GM. 100 lbs heavier perhaps, but the GS has better traction and transmission gearing than the base model -- that apparently more than makes up for the 100lb gain from the GS's larger sway bars, brakes and tires, making the GS faster, both in the corners and in a straight line.
From the Chevrolet 2012 Corvette brochure:
From the Chevrolet 2012 Corvette brochure:
The Base Coupe is Quicker and Faster than the GS in a straight line.
This info is from the C6 1/4 Mile Challenge. (sticky):https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...challenge.html
Oh, those pesky facts!
Showroom Stock LS3 (2008 - 2013)
11.718 @ 119.94 - AndrewZPSU - 08 M6 - (2586)
11.806 @ 118.82 - Gmrulz - 08 A6 Z51, NPP - (3478)
11.974 @ 116.98 - Proney - 08 M6 Z51, NPP - (4652)
12.058 @ 122.05 - AndrewZPSU - 10 A6 NPP - (5051)
12.100 @ 115.19 - Odin - 09 A6 2.73 npp - (4325)
12.102 @ 117.60 - Dingrao - 08 A6 - (3561)
12.127 @ 116.59 - Pettvette - 08 A6 - (4278)
12.159 @ 115.59 - Old Goat - 09 A6 2.73 - (3708)
12.167 @ 117.15 - DarkOctane - 08 A6 NPP - (6310)
12.167 @ 116.54 - Vinsane112 - 08 A6 2.73 - (2740)
12.186 @ 117.72 - Hardhattg - 08 M6 Z51 - (2686)
12.237 @ 112.86 - 940CACC - 08 A6 - (2871)
12.244 @ 117.83 - 74Vette - 08 M6 - (4617)
12.273 @ 117.32 - C6David - 08 A6 NPP - (6854)
12.305 @ 116.51 - JBrunoJC6 - 08 A6 NPP - (6722)
12.400 @ 116.36 - RandyDank23 - 08 A6 - (6059)
12.262 @ 115.22 - Oklahoma - 08 A6 - (3765)
12.276 @ 118.66 - EZ28 - 08 M6 Z51 NPP - (3247)
12.355 @ 117.47 - Bain - 08 A6 NPP 2.73 - (2755)
12.357 @ 116.94 - TNorman - 08 A6 NPP - (4227)
12.408 @ 116.11 - XtremeChubbles - 08 A6 Z51 - (6589)
12.409 @ 114.70 - Jschindler - 08 M6 Z51 NPP - (2132)
12.419 @ 116.15 - JTorchz06 - 09 A6 Z51 NPP - (3185)
12.412 @ 115.38 - HOXXOH - 08 A6 F55 - (2478)
12.428 @ 116.67 - Pea-Jay - 08 A6 - (4448)
12.494 @ 115.54 - 1.8T - 08 M6 Z51 - (2310)
12.500 @ 115.53 - Shane Fap - 08 A6 - (6298)
12.514 @ 116.73 - SK360 - 08 A6 2.73 - (6283)
12.552 @ 114.70 - Larry R - 08 A6 2.73 - (4054)
12.600 @ 114.12 - Beefcake - 08 A6 - (2875)
12.658 @ 114.99 - PhillyLS1 - 09 M6 - (3151)
12.668 @ 113.61 - CFP40 - 08 A6 NPP 2.73 - (2828)
12.689 @ 112.07 - Bfppt1 - 10 A6 - (5300)
12.747 @ 114.31 - Detoxx03 - 08 M6 NPP- (4057)
13.354 @ 110.78 - M453W - 09 A6 NPP- (5708)
13.428 @ 109.32 - Dan Wendling - 09 A6 NPP - (4032)
Showroom Stock LS3 Grand Sport (2010 - 2013)
12.319 @ 115.75 - Grand SportMan - 10 A6 - (5128)
12.374 @ 116.98 - Kuhnrod - 10 A6 - (6945)
12.461 @ 116.04 - SawBladz - 13 M6 - (6916)
12.499 @ 115.35 - Paristndude - 10 M6 - (6898)
12.559 @ 115.41 - Fastenuf - 11 A6 - (5269)
12.805 @ 113.33 - PhillyLS1 - 11 M6 NPP - (5085)
Showroom Stock LS7 Commemorative Edition 427 (2013)
11.647 @ 123.13 - Gxpz06 - 13 M6 - (6880)
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#16
Drifting
With the same engine, it can only be faster if the gearing is different in the trans or the differential. I believe Z51 cars, which the GS is, have different ratios.
I accept what you say above. I am simply so thrilled to be back in a Vette that I think it feels faster.
I accept what you say above. I am simply so thrilled to be back in a Vette that I think it feels faster.
It not only feels faster, it is.
I love my '09 Base Coupe.
#17
Le Mans Master
I like them both. But I like the base front with the wide body rear look the best. One day....
As for which is faster. i could not care less
Enjoy the one you have its a vette. And a lot of fun regardless.
As for which is faster. i could not care less
Enjoy the one you have its a vette. And a lot of fun regardless.
#18
Le Mans Master
A couple of months ago, I traded my 2013 GS in. In the last few weeks I was missing having a Vette and found a beautiful 2008 CRM Vert that I loved. It's not a GS, nor is it a Z51 but it is a 3LT with NPP and HUD. I am totally in love with it. I am no longer concerned about tires, it rides like a dream and I know I am going to take crap for this, but it seems faster than the GS. Maybe it's gearing or I just spent too much time in my Sonata. I am not hating on the GS because I loved my 13 and that body style too but I am very happy with a narrow body now. Maybe for more practical reasons.
No, the track records prove the Base is faster, no it's not, yes it is, is not, is too, is not, is too, is not, is too, is not, is...
Who gives a chit! Enjoy your new ride Paul!
And remember what's really important...
#19
Congrats on the new car. Kindly post up some photos when you can.
Seems to us the difference between the narrow and wide body is purely ascetic; and even that is pretty subtle especially to the uninitiated.
We trudge on.
Seems to us the difference between the narrow and wide body is purely ascetic; and even that is pretty subtle especially to the uninitiated.
We trudge on.
#20
Safety Car
Interesting topic- I have wondered this myself. I think mostly you would miss the better brakes and the pedal feel you get from the 6 piston calipers. The newer models are nicely refined and usually shift super smooth.
From just a speed perspective, perhaps the wider tire GS can get out of the hole well enough to post faster acceleration times, but I think what the idea is really about is the 100 lb lighter base body in addition to the lighter wheels and tires can offer a rolling acceleration advantage that can be felt on the road- also the Z51 coupe has the same gearing as the GS.
put really good tires on a base coupe (don't worry, you can afford it now) and throw it around- They are still pretty fun cars.
From just a speed perspective, perhaps the wider tire GS can get out of the hole well enough to post faster acceleration times, but I think what the idea is really about is the 100 lb lighter base body in addition to the lighter wheels and tires can offer a rolling acceleration advantage that can be felt on the road- also the Z51 coupe has the same gearing as the GS.
put really good tires on a base coupe (don't worry, you can afford it now) and throw it around- They are still pretty fun cars.