Originally Posted by R&L's C6

Although the bible says you are saved by grace and not by works, it also says this.....I don't believe you can have one without the other, they go hand in hand.

Matthew 25:31-46 New International Version (NIV)

The Sheep and the Goats

"But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will tell those on his right hand, ‘Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me drink. I was a stranger, and you took me in. I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came to me.’“Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink? When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you? When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?’“The King will answer them, ‘Most certainly I tell you, because you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ Then he will say also to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you didn’t give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink; I was a stranger, and you didn’t take me in; naked, and you didn’t clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’“Then they will also answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn’t help you?’“Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Most certainly I tell you, because you didn’t do it to one of the least of these, you didn’t do it to me.’ These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane

Also says you can repent on your death bed and be saved all the same, regardless the life you lived.

Which just proves the ridiculous inconsistencies. Anywho...


I'll be "celebrating" the day off by wrapping the RX7. I still have a **** ton of sanding to do but should have it done in time.

Originally Posted by Huskerman

Hey hey.......the engine room needs to be clean and tidy also...... next time we meet up with our cars I propose a race. quarter mile half mile whatever, and lets see how the Red Sled does against the BSGS..... I got a pack of Omaha steaks says I will win. What will you put up other then a warm six pak of Shlitz beer.... I promise no big power adders.......I am to cheap you know......

Originally Posted by R&L's C6

I'm surprised you'll be celebrating alone, seeing how much you seem to love people....

Originally Posted by wayback

Nothing wrong with being cheap.......basers are called that all the time by the GSers, take it as a big compliment. We prefer to call it being smart amongst ourselves.

Originally Posted by Huskerman

Well works is works and out of love for Christ you will do these tasks to help his Kingdom and his people. I do not see those things as Religious works, I see them as acts of love and kindness done in the name of the Father. They are normal expressions of the Love of Christ and followers of his teachings, which among other teaching is the Golden Rule....do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That's not works that's Grace.

As far as death bed conversions there is still judgment to go through and all will be revealed at that point. Those known by the Lord will have an advocate in Jesus who knows his flock. Quickie last ditch attempts may or may not work well for you. One thing for sure we are all going to find out in the end.

Originally Posted by rkj427

Thank you all for the words of wisdom...................................

PBR's all around........................... no time for Schlitz or Goebel here....................

unfortunately still at work, and maybe for a long time yet..................................

really got to love the end of the year............

Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane

Also says you can repent on your death bed and be saved all the same, regardless the life you lived.

Which just proves the ridiculous inconsistencies. Anywho...
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Originally Posted by NOWUCME

Shao...Not that it matters to you, or should, but I think you forget one thing by definition. If one wants to be pragmatic about what is the afterlife, they might want to consider it..

Omnipotence(your God?) is the quality of having unlimited power. Monotheistic religions generally attribute omnipotence to only the deity of their faith.

If this is the case, they might know when you are pulling their leg...

Originally Posted by R&L's C6

Words of something for sure, wisdom...….well that's debatable.

Originally Posted by rkj427

I thought the only thing debatable here were how Hammy's GS'er Bar & Grille has become over run with basers and how the G'ers can try to slow us down.....................

H1, nothing wrong about the Katech items on the BSGS..................... really set off the underhood appearance.............

just had to get my shot in while the opportunity presented itself...........

leaving for home.................... nice days, in about 6:00AM and out by 7:00PM.................

salary position so no extra compensation............... oh, and it is NOT a 6 digit figure or even remotely close..........

Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane

Oh that's a whole different argument, related but a completely different road of Omnipotence=Malevolence via definition of acts in the bible.

For the record I don't have an issue with all religions(well I do in a sense) it's mainly Christianity, Catholicism, Judaism and Islam. The Quoran being largely verbatim to the Bible, Catholic church supporting the holocaust, etc.

Originally Posted by rkj427

I thought the only thing debatable here were how Hammy's GS'er Bar & Grille has become over run with basers and how the G'ers can try to slow us down........and it is NOT a 6 digit figure or even remotely close..........

Originally Posted by ruxvette

I agree wholeheartedly with your first statement. Religious or not, Christian or not, it's your life. Live life in the manner that suits you. And there is a place to render your thoughts...off topic.

As for your second comment...you told me you were like Jimmy Buffet: made enough money to buy Miami but pissed it away so fast.

And, going back to the first statement: Today is/was National Pick a Pathologist Day. None of us are getting out of this alive so make friends with a pathologist/coroner...you never know what tomorrow may bring.
BTW, I highly recommend all hammers (even the young studs or studettes) get a POLST form filled out at the next doctor visit.

OK, I'm done...

Originally Posted by ruxvette

And, going back to the first statement: Today is/was National Pick a Pathologist Day. None of us are getting out of this alive so make friends with a pathologist/coroner...you never know what tomorrow may bring.