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Old 01-18-2019, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wayback
Think I am going to order a spare set from Amazon along with the winding bars. Looks doable with the correct tools.
Can get them for $75, and I paid $255. Bullchit. I think the standard operating procedure is to replace both springs and keep the good one to sell to the next sucker, um customer.
Here's my experience...
The rods across the top of the door drive cables on each end. These have to be loosened/removed;
There is a red headed bolt on the outside of the spring that needs to be loosened WITH A BAR IN PLACE (and the other handy) to unwind the spring;
Each spring rod needs to be removed and the springs replaced;
Install new springs on the rods, reinstall the rods, and rehook the cables;
Using two bars wind the red headed bolt the same number of turns as there are stripes on the spring;
Tighten the bejeezus out of the redheaded bolt.

I think the "winding bars" are just 1/2 in stock, like #4 rebar.
Go slow and watch your fingers!!!
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Originally Posted by ruxvette
Here's my experience...
The rods across the top of the door drive cables on each end. These have to be loosened/removed;
There is a red headed bolt on the outside of the spring that needs to be loosened WITH A BAR IN PLACE (and the other handy) to unwind the spring;
Each spring rod needs to be removed and the springs replaced;
Install new springs on the rods, reinstall the rods, and rehook the cables;
Using two bars wind the red headed bolt the same number of turns as there are stripes on the spring;
Tighten the bejeezus out of the redheaded bolt.

I think the "winding bars" are just 1/2 in stock, like #4 rebar.
Go slow and watch your fingers!!!

What I did not know was how much to wind them. Mine are Red springs. Guess the color denotes the weight lifting capacity. Some springs are sold with the bars on Amazon.
Old 01-18-2019, 01:11 PM
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Morning...... if you find a use for those old parts let us know.......us is the thousands of folks who put on long tube headers and have the same pile of stuff.... me included. I have mine up in the shop attic....where it will stay forever. I always thought if I ever would sell the car it would go to the new owner...... or 50 years from now someone would want to take a 10 GS to Bloomington to get a gold and need all that stuff to make it factory.......

Well we are waiting for the blizzard to hit. They are letting schools out early so everyone can get in their caves. The snack racks will no doubt be empty at the stores..... methinks there is a football game this weekend. Go Chefs..... I think it will be cold.

More on that later....have a safe day Hammers....
You can't fool us.....your watching the GSers favorite channel......Food Network.
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Yep, it's getting cold here too.
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Originally Posted by wayback

What I did not know was how much to wind them. Mine are Red springs. Guess the color denotes the weight lifting capacity. Some springs are sold with the bars on Amazon.
Annually spray some silicon lube on the springs, rollers, etc and they will last for years. No need to stock an extra set.
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I got my track wheels down and decided to coat then gunmetal for a competition edge. Scientifically proven that chrome slows you down.


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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane
I got my track wheels down and decided to coat then gunmetal for a competition edge. Scientifically proven that chrome slows you down.

Finally a GSer with a working brain.
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Originally Posted by ruxvette
Here's my experience...
The rods across the top of the door drive cables on each end. These have to be loosened/removed;
There is a red headed bolt on the outside of the spring that needs to be loosened WITH A BAR IN PLACE (and the other handy) to unwind the spring;
Each spring rod needs to be removed and the springs replaced;
Install new springs on the rods, reinstall the rods, and rehook the cables;
Using two bars wind the red headed bolt the same number of turns as there are stripes on the spring;
Tighten the bejeezus out of the redheaded bolt.

I think the "winding bars" are just 1/2 in stock, like #4 rebar.
Go slow and watch your fingers!!!
The service guy that replaced mine was using 1/2" drive socket extensions about 18" long for his tensioning bars.
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Actually chrome with the less molecular density will increase wind flow over the wheel surfaces and increase overall times........ or since you are the wrapmeister you could do this to easily beat the competition.... The GS Science Guy......


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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane
I got my track wheels down and decided to coat then gunmetal for a competition edge. Scientifically proven that chrome slows you down.
Yeah, but you just added 23.5 oz of unsprung weight...
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Originally Posted by Huskerman
Actually chrome with the less molecular density will increase wind flow over the wheel surfaces and increase overall times........ or since you are the wrapmeister you could do this to easily beat the competition.... The GS Science Guy......

https://youtu.be/io3kmLaKuOg
You do know air travels better over a rough surface, right?
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Yeah, but you just added 23.5 oz of unsprung weight...
I'll take a **** before I make my pass
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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane
I got my track wheels down and decided to coat then gunmetal for a competition edge. Scientifically proven that chrome slows you down.

That's sad........ almost desecration of a national shrine...... goes against or national heritage....... and all that GS'ers deem holy.................
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Originally Posted by Huskerman
That's sad........ almost desecration of a national shrine...... goes against or national heritage....... and all that GS'ers deem holy.................
GSers favorite track wheel.........


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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane
I'll take a **** before I make my pass
That will more than cover it...except one is unsprung weight and the other is stinky sprung weight...
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You do know air travels better over a rough surface, right?
...seems we went to different schools...... if that was true they would make airplanes out of lego's...... and use corncobs instead of toilet paper........
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Originally Posted by wayback
GSers favorite track wheel.........


Au contraire, lowly baser...us GSers have done our research and are on the cutting edge...

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...seems we went to different schools...... if that was true they would make airplanes out of lego's...... and use corncobs instead of toilet paper........
Hold on, I thought that's what y'all did up there.
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Originally Posted by Huskerman
...seems we went to different schools...... if that was true they would make airplanes out of lego's...... and use corncobs instead of toilet paper........
https://physics.aps.org/story/v17/st6

Airflow for a car is also different than for a plane. However if you have ever touched the outside of a stealth plane like the SR71, the coating is rough like sand paper as it reduces drag. So do the dimples in a gold ball, and most land speed cars have a similarly textured coating.

Sharks and Dolphins also while appearing smooth have a significantly rough texture for skin, similar again to sand paper

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/abb/2017/6858720/

As to why it's not more prevalent
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...oating-381646/
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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane
...So do the dimples in a golf ball...
Sharks have a significantly rough texture for skin, similar again to sandpaper...
Damn, so all these cars with hail damage are significantly faster...who knew???

When I put on my sharskin boots I can run like the wind...


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