Moral Dilemma..Move over or not?
#1
Instructor
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Moral Dilemma..Move over or not?
Hey guys, here's the question of the day. I was on the road today in my pickup on I-93N coming out of Boston. Traffic was moderate, with the right and middle lanes moving between 60 and 65 with constant shuffling in and out due to numerous on and off ramps and a lot of trucks and busses. I hate mixing up in that mess, so I hung in the left lane, which was clear and moving about 70 MPH or a little over. I set up behind an Audi with 6 car lengths or so between us and moseyed on up the road. Bear in mind that traffic was dictating speed so no one could make much headway over our 70.
Suddenly, there's a late model sedan so close behind me all I can see is a stubby antenna and an occasional glimpse in my mirrors. He was weaving side to side flashing beamers trying to get me to move over. I'm happy where I am and not interested in moving into the mess in the right lanes, and I am traveling with the left lane traffic flow at 5 over limit.
So, a few minutes go by and now guy behind is waving arms out the window, swerving and running his mouth because he wants to go faster yet. Now he's pissing me off, and the law of gross tonnage is in my favor (HD2500 diesel pickup vs. Malibu), and besides, I was here first!
Now, I am past point of no return , I'm not moving over unless there's a good reason. Malibu guy is freaking out, finally passes me on right, flips me off and goes on being an a**h***
do you guys feel there was an obligation or duty to yield my position to the overtaking driver? What would you have done?
Suddenly, there's a late model sedan so close behind me all I can see is a stubby antenna and an occasional glimpse in my mirrors. He was weaving side to side flashing beamers trying to get me to move over. I'm happy where I am and not interested in moving into the mess in the right lanes, and I am traveling with the left lane traffic flow at 5 over limit.
So, a few minutes go by and now guy behind is waving arms out the window, swerving and running his mouth because he wants to go faster yet. Now he's pissing me off, and the law of gross tonnage is in my favor (HD2500 diesel pickup vs. Malibu), and besides, I was here first!
Now, I am past point of no return , I'm not moving over unless there's a good reason. Malibu guy is freaking out, finally passes me on right, flips me off and goes on being an a**h***
do you guys feel there was an obligation or duty to yield my position to the overtaking driver? What would you have done?
#2
Race Director
If I see another driver in any vehicle acting like an azzhat, I just let them by and keep my distance.
Too many other things to worry about in life. It doesn't matter that you were "more correct" and all...
(and I know that road well !)
Too many other things to worry about in life. It doesn't matter that you were "more correct" and all...
(and I know that road well !)
#3
Drifting
In my youth I would just flip him off. These days I just move over and let him irritate the next guy up the road and then get back in the left lane. You never know, maybe his wife/family is in danger, etc. life is too short already for this drama. With various wacko's out there he might ram you or worse.
#4
You should have just moved over, but the other driver also shouldn't have acted like a clown.
It is illegal in most states to sit in the left lane even if you are going over the speed limit and just because you "were there first" or have a bigger vehicle than someone else is irrelevant
It is equally frustrating being tailgated by someone in heavy traffic as it is being stuck behind someone in the left lane that won't speed up or change lanes, and since you said traffic was moving at about 70mph the traffic couldn't have been that heavy. And if the malibu driver was able to pass you on the right, you probably could have just gotten over and let him pass you.
At least that's what I think
It is illegal in most states to sit in the left lane even if you are going over the speed limit and just because you "were there first" or have a bigger vehicle than someone else is irrelevant
It is equally frustrating being tailgated by someone in heavy traffic as it is being stuck behind someone in the left lane that won't speed up or change lanes, and since you said traffic was moving at about 70mph the traffic couldn't have been that heavy. And if the malibu driver was able to pass you on the right, you probably could have just gotten over and let him pass you.
At least that's what I think
#5
Le Mans Master
You have a legal obligation to safely yield to faster traffic, no questions asked. However it may make you feel, you do not know why the person behind you is speeding. And, regardless of why he is speeding, you create a dangerous situation by refusing to yield.
Do you think you taught him a lesson??? What if your act puts either of you six feet under??? Try to explain that to your widowed wife or orphaned children.
I hope you understand why I am being so blunt. It isn't worth your life to show someone that you are right...
(Yes, I realize I often did the very same thing as a younger man...)
Do you think you taught him a lesson??? What if your act puts either of you six feet under??? Try to explain that to your widowed wife or orphaned children.
I hope you understand why I am being so blunt. It isn't worth your life to show someone that you are right...
(Yes, I realize I often did the very same thing as a younger man...)
Last edited by buckmeister2; 05-22-2015 at 11:57 PM.
#9
I always move over for someone who wants to go faster than me. I'm usually the fastest one, but if someone is coming up on me, I let them go by.
Sure, I can always go faster than 99% of them, but to what point?
Sure, I can always go faster than 99% of them, but to what point?
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Left lane is for passing not cruising. Move over and don't holdup traffic.
#13
I usually just move over if it's the left lane and get out of the way. Who knows, maybe the person is trying to get to the hospital or maybe they have diarrhea and are trying to get home.
I typically do about 5 mph over the speed limit in the RIGHT lane and still have people ride my bumper. In those cases, I try to ignore it and let it be. Yea, it totally gets on my nerves and can **** me off, but at age 40 I'm too mature for road rage. I just ignore it and let it go.
I typically do about 5 mph over the speed limit in the RIGHT lane and still have people ride my bumper. In those cases, I try to ignore it and let it be. Yea, it totally gets on my nerves and can **** me off, but at age 40 I'm too mature for road rage. I just ignore it and let it go.
#14
I hate people that tailgate but agree that it's better to move right when it's safe...and then get right back behind and tailgate the **** out of him
Na I'm just kidding.... Let it go. It's never worth escalating.
Na I'm just kidding.... Let it go. It's never worth escalating.
#16
Melting Slicks
#17
I will let them by. I don't know if they have a medical emergency or what. Whatever it is I am glad I am not them and move over ASAP. Years of motorcycle riding taught me I am an ant in a world of shoes.
People who drive aggressively will get into trouble. I don't want to be around when that happens nor do I want to be a party to it. Regardless of how much bigger I may be.
People who drive aggressively will get into trouble. I don't want to be around when that happens nor do I want to be a party to it. Regardless of how much bigger I may be.
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#19
Le Mans Master
My daughter lives and works in Boston.
That city is plagued with the most rude and impatient drivers I've ever seen. If you find a car with its horn worn out, it probably came from Boston. That place could easily kill my love for the automobile; driving there is that miserable.
That being said ...
1. I'm astounded your were traveling any faster than 5 miles per hour on I-93. That last time I found my sorry azz on that road it took me an HOUR to go three miles.
2. By Boston standards, the guy behind you was about par for the course. Just grab a fresh lobster roll and a brewsky and forget about it.
That city is plagued with the most rude and impatient drivers I've ever seen. If you find a car with its horn worn out, it probably came from Boston. That place could easily kill my love for the automobile; driving there is that miserable.
That being said ...
1. I'm astounded your were traveling any faster than 5 miles per hour on I-93. That last time I found my sorry azz on that road it took me an HOUR to go three miles.
2. By Boston standards, the guy behind you was about par for the course. Just grab a fresh lobster roll and a brewsky and forget about it.
#20
Le Mans Master
Of course you should have moved over. Why should he have to drive at the speed (you) want him to? Why do you think it's called the 'fast' lane anyway? Sheesh!