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Old 07-19-2015, 02:51 PM
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Awesome car. Next time him and I will swap cars and take them for a spin to get a feel for a difference between them. We had a friendly contest in Mexico with the cars.

His: Stock ZR1
Me: LS3 on boost/methanol (640RWHP Mustang dyno)

I should have gotten video (maybe next time) but basically a 70 punch in 3rd for my C6 (out of powerband but I'll hook) and I gave him the move on each run. Outcome basically the same...

3rd gear goes to 115 for me and from the start at 70 to the top of 115 I had 1-2 cars on him. Shift to 4th and no one pulled from 115 to just under 130. 130+ my car would increase distance. I talked to him afterwards and he says it was more than 2 car lengths but it's hard to say when you're ahead.

His is bone stock. Impressive ride.

It's RedinRed on the forum if he cares to chime in.

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In Mexico ?

I'd love a ZR1...someday
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If he is still on the stock tune in the ZR-1, then TM is holding back power.

I'm guessing that your tune de-hobbled the TM, so although both cars have around the same over all Dyno power at top RPM's, your is actually putting down more HP to the ground at any given initial time once you come on boost instead.
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well considering he is only putting about 525-540 to the wheels what did you expect
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I'm guessing that your tune de-hobbled the TM, so although both cars have around the same over all Dyno power at top RPM's, your is actually putting down more HP to the ground at any given initial time once you come on boost instead.
news to me that 640 RWHP is same overall dyno power up top (mustang dyno to boot) on a car that makes 638hp at the crank
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This is the first time I have not just pulled right away from any other car i have played with since we got the ZR-1. All I could hear is his C6 and all I could see is him slowly pull away every time....lol. The faster we went the bigger the distance for sure! Maybe it is that low octane Mexican gas?

I am curious what will happen at lower speeds.....probably the same thing. Fun Times!!!
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With 125 rwhp more, I'm surprised the cars stayed even at any point. It's always nice to put some distance on $100k cars.
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Originally Posted by RedinRed
This is the first time I have not just pulled right away from any other car i have played with since we got the ZR-1. All I could hear is his C6 and all I could see is him slowly pull away every time....lol. The faster we went the bigger the distance for sure! Maybe it is that low octane Mexican gas?

I am curious what will happen at lower speeds.....probably the same thing. Fun Times!!!
Still under warranty? If not, it shouldn't take a whole lot to change the outcome.
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Forum rules changed. You don't have to go to Mexico anymore to post about drag races.
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Originally Posted by Tech
With 125 rwhp more, I'm surprised the cars stayed even at any point. It's always nice to put some distance on $100k cars.
How much did it cost to put that distance? It's all relative guys, especially when you factor the cost of mod depreciation......vs new car depreciation...
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Is road racing legal in Mexico, or is "went to Mexico" just a euphemism to get within previous forum rules?
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Originally Posted by bud miller
How much did it cost to put that distance? It's all relative guys, especially when you factor the cost of mod depreciation......vs new car depreciation...
This isn't a price or depreciation comparison. It's a performance comparison. If you want to go fast for the least amount of money, you wouldn't buy any Corvette.
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Originally Posted by RocketDawg
Is road racing legal in Mexico, or is "went to Mexico" just a euphemism to get within previous forum rules?
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Originally Posted by Tech
With 125 rwhp more, I'm surprised the cars stayed even at any point. It's always nice to put some distance on $100k cars.
Give any car the jump in a race and it makes it much more challenging to mount a come back. If I didn't give him the jump it would have been a significantly different outcome in terms of distance.

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How much did it cost to put that distance? It's all relative guys, especially when you factor the cost of mod depreciation......vs new car depreciation...
Pricing the parts out new it's approximately $9,000 to install an ECS 1500 kit + meth + LT headers on top of the price of a C6 LS3

Now granted I put a bit more into my car for other misc upgrades that weren't necessary (suspension, brakes, clutch, fuel pump, upgraded rocker arms and valve springs, etc.) but that's all you need to put those power levels up.

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Still under warranty? If not, it shouldn't take a whole lot to change the outcome.
Yup his car is still under warranty. While he can add more stuff, I can easily just take off that restrictor plate and cam the car and make an additional 110 RWHP. Local friend on forum here puts down 754 RWHP with same power mods as me and on the same dyno. The only two power changes were addition of a cam and removal of the restrictor plate. I'm content where mine stands as is the gentleman who owns the ZR1.

...oh and it's Mexico because this is posted on a public forum
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I have driven the ZR1 and it is a complete car. Great power, handling and braking. I was considering selling my corvette and picking up a slightly used ZR1. I ended up keeping my corvette and having an A&A Centri S/C installed. Centri feels a little stronger on the top, but the ZR1 has the torque, braking and handling advantage. Fun cars to drive, but play safe on those Mexican freeways!

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The LS3 is the engine to use for modifications....try that with the LS7 and it would blow apart!!
Great run...shows you can buy a 30k LS3 put 10k into it, pay 1/2 what it would cost to own a ZR1...
Love it...! By the way I did it with my old car a 2008 base model and it cost around 10k also.
Never ran a Zr1...



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Originally Posted by Tech
This isn't a price or depreciation comparison. It's a performance comparison. If you want to go fast for the least amount of money, you wouldn't buy any Corvette.
Bang for your buck ,is always a comparison...and just a blower on a ls3 doesn't, make it a zr1 as others have mentioned...
Many of us have been down the "mod road", and there is something to be said about look at all your options, and living in crazy kaliforneia makes modding sometimes a real PITA...

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Originally Posted by bud miller
Bang for your buck ,is always a comparison...and just a blower on a ls3 doesn't, make it a zr1 as others have mentioned...
Many of us have been down the "mod road", and there is something to be said about look at all your options, and living in crazy kaliforneia makes modding sometimes a real PITA...
A blower on a LS3 doesnt make it a ZR1, but the glamour of owning a ZR1 wears off real quick when you get smoked by a base model and all you have left is a badge and a massive bill to pay at the end of the month ...

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Originally Posted by pewter99
well considering he is only putting about 525-540 to the wheels what did you expect
If it's running right, a ZR1 should put down about 560 to the wheels but I understand and agree with your point.


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