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Old 10-28-2015, 11:19 AM
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A friend works at a dealership in Texas and he was telling me about a deal last night on a Corvette.
Seems someone decided to trade in their 2014 Corvette for a 2016 Z06. So far, so good, but then when you see the details of the deal...wow! They got $54k for a 2014 with 2,500 miles on it in trade...ouch! But they got the Z06 for $88k plus taxes,which equals over $90k. But they were upside down on the 2014 by $25k...wtf!
So add the $25k to the $90k and they ended up paying $115k for 2016 Z06! Now for the real kicker, they financed that for 6 years and the payments are $1860 a month for a total of $134k!
What is wrong with people!
Yeah they traded in a 2014 garage queen for 2016 Z06, which will probably be a garage queen too, but they really seem impulsive to me to take a deal like that! Especially with the current economy. I just don't think people look at the big picture! That's a house payment for a car that will sit in the garage and they could have put the difference between the old payment and the new into savings. They would still have a nice 2014. I hope that extra 200 hp was worth the extra $50k being spent!!!
Am I getting old, thinking that people should be more financially responsible?

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Old 10-28-2015, 11:23 AM
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Lots of Americans buy things they can't afford.....its the American way. $1800 a month car payment is rather stupid.
Old 10-28-2015, 11:40 AM
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I am not afraid to say there is no way I could afford a $1800 a month car payment on top of my other bills. Yikes.
Old 10-28-2015, 11:48 AM
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True, but when you buy a car for over $100k, that is the kind of payments you have!
But the real point here is that someone is going to end up paying $134k for a $90k car!!!
Old 10-28-2015, 12:05 PM
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I'm getting to where I don't like to finance anything. Especially a Corvette that is basically a toy. If I can't pay for it , I don't buy it.
Old 10-28-2015, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by db2012gs
True, but when you buy a car for over $100k, that is the kind of payments you have!
But the real point here is that someone is going to end up paying $134k for a $90k car!!!


No they won't. They'll probably trade it in in a year or two and get something else.
Old 10-28-2015, 12:08 PM
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Some people don't live paycheck to paycheck like the rest of us and have stupid money. They don't mind spending it like that. Who knows it may turn in to another poor decisions one of these days when they get tired of playing with it....
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Wait, $54k trade-in and they owed $79k? According to KBB, a fair value of $54k today equals a fully loaded car with an original MSRP of $87k. There is no way he only paid off $8k unless he bought it very recently.
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No they won't. They'll probably trade it in in a year or two and get something else.
It will be the same next time, they will still owe around $100k for a car that's worth between $75-80...and the madness continues!
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Wait, $54k trade-in and they owed $79k? According to KBB, a fair value of $54k today equals a fully loaded car with an original MSRP of $87k. There is no way he only paid off $8k unless he bought it very recently.
I saw a copy of the paperwork, it said $54k trade in and $79k payoff.
It is what it is, those are the numbers because I saw them with my own eyes!
They probably paid too much for the 2014 when they first came out, and maybe they got a bad interest rate in addition?
How many months of payments they made, we don't know, and we don't know how much went towards principal each month?
What I DO know is that they had to add $25k to the new car loan! Which to me equals Stupid and Impulsive!

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1800.00 per month house payment?
That is why I live in an Airstream on the side of a mountain.

1800.00 will buy me a new house.
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Originally Posted by db2012gs
I saw a copy of the paperwork, it said $54k trade in and $79k payoff.
It is what it is, those are the numbers because I saw them with my own eyes!
They probably paid too much for the 2014 when they first came out, and maybe they got a bad interest rate in addition?
How many months of payments they made, we don't know, and we don't know how much went towards principal each month?
What I DO know is that they had to add $25k to the new car loan! Which to me equals Stupid and Impulsive!
Or, they had rolled in another upside down payment into the 2014
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Originally Posted by LFZ
Lots of Americans buy things they can't afford.....its the American way. $1800 a month car payment is rather stupid.
Half that amount is more than I would pay.
Old 10-28-2015, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mcandrew67
Or, they had rolled in another upside down payment into the 2014
True! Could just be a pattern with this person!
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Originally Posted by Richard F
Some people don't live paycheck to paycheck like the rest of us and have stupid money. They don't mind spending it like that. Who knows it may turn in to another poor decisions one of these days when they get tired of playing with it....
Usually, its the ones living "paycheck by paycheck" doing these stupid things like adding $25k onto their financing then having a $1800 car payment...but damn, they can tell their friends and neighbors they have a brand new C7 Z06!

Those that have stupid money, would have just paid cash for it.
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Originally Posted by Richard F
Some people don't live paycheck to paycheck like the rest of us and have stupid money. They don't mind spending it like that. Who knows it may turn in to another poor decisions one of these days when they get tired of playing with it....
Stupid decision, but right on. Probably has F you money & doesn't care.
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A phrase comes into mind... 'a fool and his money will soon part'

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Old 10-28-2015, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeERWNC
That is why I live in an Airstream on the side of a mountain.
Sounds much better than a van down by the river.
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Originally Posted by db2012gs
True, but when you buy a car for over $100k, that is the kind of payments you have!
But the real point here is that someone is going to end up paying $134k for a $90k car!!!
No, the real point is that some people are so irresponsible that, like children, they have no sense of the consequences of their actions. They may lose that 2016 Z06 in the long run, but they won't see it as anything but "bad luck". Fools and their money. And if this were mad money as suggested above, why would they have financed the whole enchilada?

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I've seen people who have had three or four or five C6s...same kind of thing. If they can afford it, fine. If they can't, then it's irresponsible. A guy who can find $100K in the couch cushions doesn't need to worry about this kind of thing. I guess I would say that if the guy is financing these cars, he may not really be able to afford them.


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