Supercharger advice
01-01-2016, 02:09 PM
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Supercharger advice
Guys, I have an 07 with 27K miles and have been contemplating a supercharger. I thought about a cam, headers and exhaust, but we drive this car on road trips, and I want to keep the ride close to stock, but with the extra hp. Thinking about an Edlebrock E Force. Have any of you gone this route, and what do you think?
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Ben101er (01-01-2016)
01-01-2016, 02:30 PM
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Suggest you talk to the guys in the C6 Forced Induction Forum. Also suggest you add info about exactly what you want from the car like, some racing, no racing, daily driver, weekend toy plus the occasional road trips, etc. They are going to ask you anyway so might as well specify as much as possible up front. Good luck.
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Ben101er (01-01-2016)
01-01-2016, 02:40 PM
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When it comes to supercharging, there are two distinctly different routes that can be taken. Blowers like the E-Force and Magnuson are positive displacement type superchargers and increase horsepower and torque at all RPM. They offer more low end grunt, and have an obvious effect on power output and control-ability every time you drive the car. They are fun, reliable, and sometimes cause excessive rear tire wear. (Hence the fun)
The other option is a centrifugal supercharger like the A&A, Paxton, etc. These superchargers have similar peak horsepower gains, but do not add as much (or sometimes any) boost at low RPM. This makes the car a little easier to drive as a daily driver, and some say allows for better launches because of the reduced torque at lower RPM. The amount of boost and where it begins can be controlled somewhat by changing the diameter of the drive pulley. Again, these systems are fun, and reliable. They also are a little easier to install, because the stock intake remains on the motor.
So it's really up to you. If you want more HP and grunt at all RPM's the Edelbrock or Magnusen are probably going to make you really happy. But if you want to retain all of the low RPM driveability and around town fuel economy, the centifugal method may be better suited. Both systems work very well, and both are reliable and offer significant power increases.
Garry
The other option is a centrifugal supercharger like the A&A, Paxton, etc. These superchargers have similar peak horsepower gains, but do not add as much (or sometimes any) boost at low RPM. This makes the car a little easier to drive as a daily driver, and some say allows for better launches because of the reduced torque at lower RPM. The amount of boost and where it begins can be controlled somewhat by changing the diameter of the drive pulley. Again, these systems are fun, and reliable. They also are a little easier to install, because the stock intake remains on the motor.
So it's really up to you. If you want more HP and grunt at all RPM's the Edelbrock or Magnusen are probably going to make you really happy. But if you want to retain all of the low RPM driveability and around town fuel economy, the centifugal method may be better suited. Both systems work very well, and both are reliable and offer significant power increases.
Garry
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01-01-2016, 02:51 PM
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When it comes to supercharging, there are two distinctly different routes that can be taken. Blowers like the E-Force and Magnuson are positive displacement type superchargers and increase horsepower and torque at all RPM. They offer more low end grunt, and have an obvious effect on power output and control-ability every time you drive the car. They are fun, reliable, and sometimes cause excessive rear tire wear. (Hence the fun)
The other option is a centrifugal supercharger like the A&A, Paxton, etc. These superchargers have similar peak horsepower gains, but do not add as much (or sometimes any) boost at low RPM. This makes the car a little easier to drive as a daily driver, and some say allows for better launches because of the reduced torque at lower RPM. The amount of boost and where it begins can be controlled somewhat by changing the diameter of the drive pulley. Again, these systems are fun, and reliable. They also are a little easier to install, because the stock intake remains on the motor.
So it's really up to you. If you want more HP and grunt at all RPM's the Edelbrock or Magnusen are probably going to make you really happy. But if you want to retain all of the low RPM driveability and around town fuel economy, the centifugal method may be better suited. Both systems work very well, and both are reliable and offer significant power increases.
Garry
The other option is a centrifugal supercharger like the A&A, Paxton, etc. These superchargers have similar peak horsepower gains, but do not add as much (or sometimes any) boost at low RPM. This makes the car a little easier to drive as a daily driver, and some say allows for better launches because of the reduced torque at lower RPM. The amount of boost and where it begins can be controlled somewhat by changing the diameter of the drive pulley. Again, these systems are fun, and reliable. They also are a little easier to install, because the stock intake remains on the motor.
So it's really up to you. If you want more HP and grunt at all RPM's the Edelbrock or Magnusen are probably going to make you really happy. But if you want to retain all of the low RPM driveability and around town fuel economy, the centifugal method may be better suited. Both systems work very well, and both are reliable and offer significant power increases.
Garry
01-01-2016, 03:06 PM
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Thread Starter
When it comes to supercharging, there are two distinctly different routes that can be taken. Blowers like the E-Force and Magnuson are positive displacement type superchargers and increase horsepower and torque at all RPM. They offer more low end grunt, and have an obvious effect on power output and control-ability every time you drive the car. They are fun, reliable, and sometimes cause excessive rear tire wear. (Hence the fun)
The other option is a centrifugal supercharger like the A&A, Paxton, etc. These superchargers have similar peak horsepower gains, but do not add as much (or sometimes any) boost at low RPM. This makes the car a little easier to drive as a daily driver, and some say allows for better launches because of the reduced torque at lower RPM. The amount of boost and where it begins can be controlled somewhat by changing the diameter of the drive pulley. Again, these systems are fun, and reliable. They also are a little easier to install, because the stock intake remains on the motor.
So it's really up to you. If you want more HP and grunt at all RPM's the Edelbrock or Magnusen are probably going to make you really happy. But if you want to retain all of the low RPM driveability and around town fuel economy, the centifugal method may be better suited. Both systems work very well, and both are reliable and offer significant power increases.
Garry
The other option is a centrifugal supercharger like the A&A, Paxton, etc. These superchargers have similar peak horsepower gains, but do not add as much (or sometimes any) boost at low RPM. This makes the car a little easier to drive as a daily driver, and some say allows for better launches because of the reduced torque at lower RPM. The amount of boost and where it begins can be controlled somewhat by changing the diameter of the drive pulley. Again, these systems are fun, and reliable. They also are a little easier to install, because the stock intake remains on the motor.
So it's really up to you. If you want more HP and grunt at all RPM's the Edelbrock or Magnusen are probably going to make you really happy. But if you want to retain all of the low RPM driveability and around town fuel economy, the centifugal method may be better suited. Both systems work very well, and both are reliable and offer significant power increases.
Garry
Last edited by Ben101er; 01-01-2016 at 03:10 PM.
01-01-2016, 03:15 PM
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Racer
Guys, I have an 07 with 27K miles and have been contemplating a supercharger. I thought about a cam, headers and exhaust, but we drive this car on road trips, and I want to keep the ride close to stock, but with the extra hp. Thinking about an Edlebrock E Force. Have any of you gone this route, and what do you think?
https://www.procharger.com/centrifugal-supercharger
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Ben101er (01-01-2016)
01-01-2016, 04:14 PM
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Melting Slicks
OP I went with the A&A for the same reasons you're considering your upgrade. Got 33mpg on my last trip up north. You do not have to have headers or any other mods to have a supercharger installed and tuned. But supporting mods like headers, meth, pulley sizes, etc all aid in reliability, hp increase and delivery.
Do visit the Forced Induction forum, I did for months before finalizing my decision and couldn't be happier. I still have lots of room to grow hp and speed wise, should I want to go that route. Good luck and let us know what you end up doing.
Do visit the Forced Induction forum, I did for months before finalizing my decision and couldn't be happier. I still have lots of room to grow hp and speed wise, should I want to go that route. Good luck and let us know what you end up doing.
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01-01-2016, 05:54 PM
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I went with the A&A for the reasons Gary mentioned, plus like you've already seen, the centri kits are less expensive than the PD blowers. Our cars really don't need any more low end TQ, but the A&A with the V3 Si builds boost quickly and makes a noticeable difference at 2,500rpm (I picked up probably 50lb-ft at 2,500 with the base A&A kit). Also, the centri style blowers are easier to make big numbers with, although it doesn't sound like that's your goal. Also, you don't have to do headers, but it will definitely help it breathe better. I made 600RWHP with the base A&A V3 Si with just LS7 exhaust manifolds, and am currently at 672RWHP with gutted cats, meth injection and a smaller pulley.
01-01-2016, 07:24 PM
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I have to agree with many of the responses. I ended with the ECS kit & American racing headers. I have an 08 , automatic with 27k miles. I love it. 550 rwhp & instant power. I asked guys at car shows and read the forced induction forum. I am looking at tires now to control some of that added power. It's a lot of fun! You can still drive it normal. It fits under the stock hood. You do hear the "whine" which I like of the supercharger.
01-01-2016, 09:53 PM
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I chose the Vortech/A&A for my 2007 with no regrets. Great service from A&A, no issues with the system, 600 to the wheels and it's California smog legal with Z06 manifolds/cats and Borla x pipe. All of the systems for the C6 will make you power. Just a matter of preference.
01-02-2016, 09:35 AM
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I chose the Vortech/A&A for my 2007 with no regrets. Great service from A&A, no issues with the system, 600 to the wheels and it's California smog legal with Z06 manifolds/cats and Borla x pipe. All of the systems for the C6 will make you power. Just a matter of preference.
Dealerships will not do it with Z06 manifolds in place.
Just so others understand that your care isn't legally compliant.
Yadda you may have the sticky anyway but in reality others will have problems if thinking that the Z06 manifolds are legal in California now.
01-02-2016, 11:30 AM
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The OP asked for opinions on superchargers. I gave him one. As far as an emissions recall, I have not received a notice on one. My car went in for smog a couple weeks ago and passed. That, to me, is compliant. Not gonna hash out the semantics of the word.
Maybe you could start a thread on this recall for guys like me who are uninformed. (rather than taking the OP's post off topic.)
Maybe you could start a thread on this recall for guys like me who are uninformed. (rather than taking the OP's post off topic.)
How will you register your car without the emission recall performed?
Dealerships will not do it with Z06 manifolds in place.
Just so others understand that your care isn't legally compliant.
Yadda you may have the sticky anyway but in reality others will have problems if thinking that the Z06 manifolds are legal in California now.
Dealerships will not do it with Z06 manifolds in place.
Just so others understand that your care isn't legally compliant.
Yadda you may have the sticky anyway but in reality others will have problems if thinking that the Z06 manifolds are legal in California now.
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yellowzron (01-02-2016)
01-02-2016, 12:23 PM
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Racer
I went the 610 E-Force route on my GS. 610 BHP / 565 lbs-ft of torque
Package includes:
• Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger
• Dual bar & plate intercoolers
• Properly sized fuel injectors
• Kenne Bell boosta-pump
• Lingenfelter160 Degree thermostat
• NGK V-Power plugs
* High Flow Air Intake
• Professional installation, testing and dyno tuning
No other mods. Really fun to drive and unless you get on it (which is often) you would never no it had more power. Heat soak hasn't been an issue except on open track day. I am going to add Meth this spring which will add another 30-40hp. May look into a different oil cooler set up to drop temps but still on the fence since this is not a track car.
Not interested in headers, too many fitment issues. I have had my share of header leaks in the past and I am beyond that.
Package includes:
• Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger
• Dual bar & plate intercoolers
• Properly sized fuel injectors
• Kenne Bell boosta-pump
• Lingenfelter160 Degree thermostat
• NGK V-Power plugs
* High Flow Air Intake
• Professional installation, testing and dyno tuning
No other mods. Really fun to drive and unless you get on it (which is often) you would never no it had more power. Heat soak hasn't been an issue except on open track day. I am going to add Meth this spring which will add another 30-40hp. May look into a different oil cooler set up to drop temps but still on the fence since this is not a track car.
Not interested in headers, too many fitment issues. I have had my share of header leaks in the past and I am beyond that.
01-02-2016, 01:25 PM
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Burning Brakes
I have an Edlebrock E-force on my 2006 ZO6 (657HP) and love it. Well mannered for daily street driving, but one wild ride when you put your right foot into the GO pedal. 
Jim
Jim
01-02-2016, 08:37 PM
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LPE 670 he Edelbrock setup here. Stock-like drivability, 24mpg on highway averaging 80mph.
Agree with the others that the centrifugal blower has more potential for high HP, but I'm not sure that's what you're after.
Both types will drive like stock if you're at cruise, and you will be happy with either. Been running both types of blowers on late model hotrod for 20yrs. You can achieve great reliability, gas mileage, street manners and more with either.
Agree with the others that the centrifugal blower has more potential for high HP, but I'm not sure that's what you're after.
Both types will drive like stock if you're at cruise, and you will be happy with either. Been running both types of blowers on late model hotrod for 20yrs. You can achieve great reliability, gas mileage, street manners and more with either.
01-02-2016, 09:40 PM
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01-02-2016, 10:10 PM
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