Dyno of NPP Closed vs Open vs OEM
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Dyno of NPP Closed vs Open vs OEM
Using the DashControl display controller to control the NPP exhaust, we made dyno pulls in all conditions just to see the power effect. The car is a stock 2006 Z06
Blue = OEM function
Green = Full open
Red = Full closed (yes DashControl can hold it closed full time)
http://www.dashlogic.com/index.php?r...&product_id=68
Blue = OEM function
Green = Full open
Red = Full closed (yes DashControl can hold it closed full time)
http://www.dashlogic.com/index.php?r...&product_id=68
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So this tells me that the "full open" NPP setting is virtually identical to the OEM exhaust in both horsepower and torque and the "full closed" position is a real handicap, or am I misreading the chart?
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Using the DashControl display controller to control the NPP exhaust, we made dyno pulls in all conditions just to see the power effect. The car is a stock 2006 Z06
Blue = OEM function
Green = Full open
Red = Full closed (yes DashControl can hold it closed full time)
http://www.dashlogic.com/index.php?r...&product_id=68
Blue = OEM function
Green = Full open
Red = Full closed (yes DashControl can hold it closed full time)
http://www.dashlogic.com/index.php?r...&product_id=68
These were back to back runs, I wonder if heat soak contributed to some of the power loss on the third dyno run?
Interesting results, thanks for posting the dyno graph!
Last edited by Mike's LS3; 03-10-2016 at 11:53 AM.
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I'm color blind. Would someone please explain what I am seeing on the graph as I can't tell which arc is which color?
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Dang, that's a pretty big difference on the upper end when closed. I'd hate to see how big of difference it would be on my blown car (672RW).
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Looks like I need to stop being lazy and pull the #10 fuse so mine will stay open all of the time. That's a pretty drastic difference.
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I knew it, my car is faster with the NPP fully open, I could feel it in the seat of my pants
No seriously thank you, so their claim to 6 more HP on an LS3 holds pretty true I would assume. That's it my wife can just live with the "drone" LOL
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No seriously thank you, so their claim to 6 more HP on an LS3 holds pretty true I would assume. That's it my wife can just live with the "drone" LOL
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I'm still having a hard time believing flaps closed is a 40HP difference.
My guess is this must be a C6 Z06 (or maybe cam & LTs LS3). Even with that, it's a huge difference NPP closed full time. That's way more than 6HP, so if it's true, the NPP with flaps closed must be WAY more restrictive than the non-NPP mufflers.
My guess is this must be a C6 Z06 (or maybe cam & LTs LS3). Even with that, it's a huge difference NPP closed full time. That's way more than 6HP, so if it's true, the NPP with flaps closed must be WAY more restrictive than the non-NPP mufflers.
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I'm still having a hard time believing flaps closed is a 40HP difference.
My guess is this must be a C6 Z06 (or maybe cam & LTs LS3). Even with that, it's a huge difference NPP closed full time. That's way more than 6HP, so if it's true, the NPP with flaps closed must be WAY more restrictive than the non-NPP mufflers.
My guess is this must be a C6 Z06 (or maybe cam & LTs LS3). Even with that, it's a huge difference NPP closed full time. That's way more than 6HP, so if it's true, the NPP with flaps closed must be WAY more restrictive than the non-NPP mufflers.
Last edited by Mike's LS3; 03-10-2016 at 12:45 PM.
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I'm still having a hard time believing flaps closed is a 40HP difference.
My guess is this must be a C6 Z06 (or maybe cam & LTs LS3). Even with that, it's a huge difference NPP closed full time. That's way more than 6HP, so if it's true, the NPP with flaps closed must be WAY more restrictive than the non-NPP mufflers.
My guess is this must be a C6 Z06 (or maybe cam & LTs LS3). Even with that, it's a huge difference NPP closed full time. That's way more than 6HP, so if it's true, the NPP with flaps closed must be WAY more restrictive than the non-NPP mufflers.
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While the mid-pipes and muffler connectors are 3" the muffler inlets neck down to 2.5" as they enter the mufflers themselves.
Other thing to consider is that 2006 Z06 bi-modal cans have perfed internal pipes.
Last edited by RC4G; 03-10-2016 at 02:58 PM.
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Any ratings difference regarding the LS3 are NPP vs the non-NPP OEM exhaust. That is where the 6 hp comes from. It has nothing to do with open or closed.
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Z06 had perforated straight pipes on the bypass side, LS3/NPP has solid straight pipes on the bypass side. LS3/NPP is 2.5" all the way, Z06 is 3" to mufflers and then necks down to 2.5".
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Thanks for the test data - solid info - very nice!
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Heat soak is always possible, but I don't think that is the case here. First reason I don't think heat soak played a part is we are in Utah and this was in January, if it was above 30* outside that day I would be surprised, the front of the car is barely inside the building and we all had coats on. Second reason is the beginning of the run followed the 'closed' numbers from the previous run exactly (that run being the first one that was within 3hp of best), if it was heat soaked I would expect the numbers to start out lower and remain lower, but that was not the case here.
Last edited by DashLogic; 03-10-2016 at 05:24 PM.
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according to this article, its worth 6hp. 436hp with npp option, 430hp non-npp.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ression-page-2
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ression-page-2
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