I have to turn it down
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12-21-2016, 10:17 AM
#43
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I never use my ears to sense when the clutch is grabbing. I go by feel. Besides you can give it all the throttle you want, the trick is letting the clutch out slow enough to keep the tires from spinning (unless you want them to) or the engine from stalling.
12-21-2016, 10:21 AM
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12-21-2016, 10:23 AM
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I'll try to help you with a serious answer. I had a base 2012 C6. The gearing was terrible and starting off from a dead stop was much more difficult than it was on my Z06. The gear ratio in the transmission and rear end on the base C6 compared to the Z51 car is more difficult to start off from a stop. I sold the car and every experienced driver that test drove the car had the same response. They either stalled the engine or had to slip the clutch more than would be expected. And yes, I have sufficient experience driving vehicles with manual clutches, everything from 18 wheelers to motorcycles.
One suggestion, have someone set the in-gear idle speed up about 50 rpm.
Second, use the hand brake not the foot pedal to hold the car on a hill.
One suggestion, have someone set the in-gear idle speed up about 50 rpm.
Second, use the hand brake not the foot pedal to hold the car on a hill.
No. Just stop.. Please send me your login credentials so I can prevent this from happening again. That is just terrible advise.
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12-21-2016, 10:28 AM
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In one night this thread has gone the way of
"What should I put under my tires"
thread, a few pages short but from the looks of it, it will continue
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"What should I put under my tires"
thread, a few pages short but from the looks of it, it will continue
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12-21-2016, 11:00 AM
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Having driven White, Mack, GMC and Kenworth trucks all my life,
some with 8 speed transmissions and 2 speed rears I find your problem rather simplistic.
some with 8 speed transmissions and 2 speed rears I find your problem rather simplistic.
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12-21-2016, 11:01 AM
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Someone below your post thought it was a serious suggestion.
12-21-2016, 02:21 PM
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Ok, When I roll to a stop on a slope, or at a stop light on a slope or hill. I don't want to ride my clutch until I launch. I have to turn the sound system down to hear the engine as I'm pulling away. Sometimes I'm revving the engine too high and lose traction, sometimes I stall it. On flat ground I have no prob. I don't look at the Tach as I'm in traffic. I have to hear the engine in order to not over rev. I just wanted to know if other members has had this experience. I'm 61 years and have to admit my hearing has gone south, I'm just asking if anyone has had this happen to them after years of sport and muscle car driving,
1st Manual trans ??
12-21-2016, 02:32 PM
#50
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it's not a matter of more experience with ANY stick, but more experience with the Vette you are driving.
However, it an be challenging if the hills are really steep. The heel/toe is hard to coordinate from a stop. Try setting the emergency brake, then slowly take up the slack in the clutch, and release the Ebrake when the car starts to move forward...a whole lot easier than heel/toe from a stop.
However, it an be challenging if the hills are really steep. The heel/toe is hard to coordinate from a stop. Try setting the emergency brake, then slowly take up the slack in the clutch, and release the Ebrake when the car starts to move forward...a whole lot easier than heel/toe from a stop.
12-21-2016, 03:11 PM
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it's not a matter of more experience with ANY stick, but more experience with the Vette you are driving.
However, it an be challenging if the hills are really steep. The heel/toe is hard to coordinate from a stop. Try setting the emergency brake, then slowly take up the slack in the clutch, and release the Ebrake when the car starts to move forward...a whole lot easier than heel/toe from a stop.
However, it an be challenging if the hills are really steep. The heel/toe is hard to coordinate from a stop. Try setting the emergency brake, then slowly take up the slack in the clutch, and release the Ebrake when the car starts to move forward...a whole lot easier than heel/toe from a stop.
I learned how to operate a clutch -- yes, even on hills -- on tractors and junk cars long before I was old enough to have a license. I was so young that on tractors I had to slide almost off the seat to get the clutch all the way in, and on one particular tractor my uncle had I wasn't even strong enough yet to push the clutch in -- so I couldn't drive that one til I got older and stronger.
Every tractor/truck/car/motorcycle has a different feel to the clutch depending on type of clutch, pressure plate springs, linkage, plate wear/adjustment, etc.
It isn't rocket science, nor a mystery, it's just a lack of experience.
12-21-2016, 03:41 PM
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One of the first things I do when teaching an inexperienced person how to drive a stick is start them on a hill. They quickly learn how to finesse, feather, or tease the throttle....whatever you want to cal it. You have to have a good control touch. Also, you say you aren't looking at the tach??? You have to. It's part of driving the car and having situational awareness. Develop a scan like us pilots do. You don't focus on any thing for long, but rather make short, quick scans to all the vital areas that require your attention.
12-21-2016, 04:11 PM
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If you need a tach to drive a stick then you're depending on a nanny -- not surprising in this day and age. Go out in a haylot or a big parking lot and practice taking off with your eyes shut. Better yet, practice on a hill with your eyes shut.
"In an earlier life" I taught my wife how to drive my 440 Roadrunner 4-sp, no tach, no nothing, first stick she ever drove. And she did fine after a while, but it has to be learned.
"In an earlier life" I taught my wife how to drive my 440 Roadrunner 4-sp, no tach, no nothing, first stick she ever drove. And she did fine after a while, but it has to be learned.
12-21-2016, 06:06 PM
#54
Bruze, you're right. But for someone that's having difficulty (to the point of asking for help), then the tach should be a resource to show the delicacy of the throttle and how it correlates to the tach. But, I wouldn't necessarily say the tach is representative of a nanny. It's a vital part of engine management. Something specifically designed to override the driver's input is what I would deem a nanny.
12-21-2016, 07:11 PM
#56
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Yes, having not driven a manual in many years I had that problem for a short time when I bought my first Corvette about three months ago. It took me about two weeks to "learn" the clutch simply because it is not a daily driver. Just drive it you will get the feel. IMO, the best way to learn to drive your vette is to take it to some HPDE events. I have done two so far and it definitely will improve your confidence and abilities. I like it so much I am going to have to buy another one so I can build a dedicated track car.
12-21-2016, 07:33 PM
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Ok, When I roll to a stop on a slope, or at a stop light on a slope or hill. I don't want to ride my clutch until I launch. I have to turn the sound system down to hear the engine as I'm pulling away. Sometimes I'm revving the engine too high and lose traction, sometimes I stall it. On flat ground I have no prob. I don't look at the Tach as I'm in traffic. I have to hear the engine in order to not over rev. I just wanted to know if other members has had this experience. I'm 61 years and have to admit my hearing has gone south, I'm just asking if anyone has had this happen to them after years of sport and muscle car driving,
I have driven stick shift all my life and after almost a year driving the Vette I have the same problem that you have. In my Vette the clutch have a "sweet spot" that jumps out at you and either the car stalls or I rev the car too much, and this is always on a grade on the road. I do get agravated when that happens and I hate to ride on my clutch. I am glad you shared this because I thought I was the only one.
Nick
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