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Old 06-19-2017, 03:46 PM
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Just purchased 427 vert, I had a C5 with 440rwhp (still for sale) and I loved that car we put 76k on it so much fun.

Having said that, the LS7 is truly amazing, it's the big things and the little things I love. The 427 # on the hood, 427 floor matts, the sound, the power, it just makes me gitty!!! Sometimes for a moment I stand and look at the tags and the engine. I've had some fast cars in my day (L88) but the LS7 drives so nice and seems so docile. I grin just looking at it. I can't imagine super charged examples.
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congrats. on your 427 convertible.............. be sure to post the VIN and engine builder in the 427 Registration area at the top of the forum page............ also more details or pictures at always welcomed.....
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The 427 is a cool, subtle package somewhat underrated for the fun it provides. And the supercharged cars don't quite make it to 7000rpm and only the C7's can enjoy similar power with the top down.
I think more people know about these existing now than they did when they were new.
Enjoy the ride and post some pics in the 427 section.
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Pretty special these LS7s, eh?
Congrats on a beautiful CE, a genuine keeper.

Had a very good friend w/ a Marina Blue (?) '68 L-88 in '70.
Recall WOT pulls well and even tho' it was 40 years ago I clearly recall what it felt like: Beastly power.
That our LS7s c/would easily smoke a L-88 has me shaking my head to this day. Owned my Z06 for 9 years and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

C6 Z06 & CE 427s are simply special and one has to simply own/drive one to get-it.
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Originally Posted by Landru
Pretty special these LS7s, eh?
Congrats on a beautiful CE, a genuine keeper.

Had a very good friend w/ a Marina Blue (?) '68 L-88 in '70.
Recall WOT pulls well and even tho' it was 40 years ago I clearly recall what it felt like: Beastly power.
That our LS7s c/would easily smoke a L-88 has me shaking my head to this day. Owned my Z06 for 9 years and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

C6 Z06 & CE 427s are simply special and one has to simply own/drive one to get-it.
Couldn't have said it better!
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What are the specs on the 427, is it a z06 motor (with the same problems), can it be had with a-6, only convertible ?????? I honestly don't know
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What are the specs on the 427, is it a z06 motor (with the same problems), can it be had with a-6, only convertible ?????? I honestly don't know
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EVERYTHING is Z06 except the frame is steel. 2013 LS7 Z06 505hp, but
Way underrated. Manual 6spd only convertible. This tops the Gran Sport!!
All leather dash and side doors,, elegant actually. It was weighs less than a C5
Same problems???? Explain

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Good Luck!!

I just traded in my 50th Anniversary for a 60th, but a small block. Still remember the days when my '67 had the 427 #s on the hood and the rumble of the pipes.
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Awesome car, this is my 5th one over the past 35+ years and I enjoyed each one. But I must say my 427 has been my favorite
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Originally Posted by hotrod03
EVERYTHING is Z06 except the frame is steel. 2013 LS7 Z06 505hp, but
Way underrated. Manual 6spd only convertible. This tops the Gran Sport!!
All leather dash and side doors,, elegant actually. It was weighs less than a C5
Same problems???? Explain
Heads ???????????? That's the big bugaboo I hear about, once fixed then good to go
Yanker kills it for me, that's why I like the C-7 Z06, I could get an auto, but alas the money problem
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Heads ???????????? That's the big bugaboo I hear about, once fixed then good to go
Yanker kills it for me, that's why I like the C-7 Z06, I could get an auto, but alas the money problem
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Explain "Big Bugaboo" it must be serious
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Originally Posted by hotrod03
Explain "Big Bugaboo" it must be serious
Congratulations! I would have loved to have gotten a C6 with the LS7, but when I learned that the Z07's top is not removable, it was a done deal on a GS. If I ever have engine problems tho and need a replacement, it'll definitely be an LS7!!!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the bugaboo has to do with dropped valves due to excessive valve guide tolerances. A good quality valve job should give you trouble free ownership.
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Beautiful car Hotrod03.
Funny I've owned one since new (2006) and added a second LS7 (427) in 2015. I can't find a problem. I've done actual research and looked at the stats, the percentage of cars with incidents is so small IMO it's crazy to worry about it. You did not hear about these cars having problems until the last few years. If you look at the government statistics most claims/reports were relatively recent, in the last few years. At the time I looked about a year ago, less than 100 on over 30,000 LS7's built.
A recommendation to someone looking for a nice LS7 powered car is to look for an original owner, lower mileage if possible, with good disciplined maintenance.
These cars were built to be run. Many have and not been well taken care of, then they break. If you can't help but worry about a train coming, get it checked. Oil analysis helps with some worries too.
I realize with any new car, some will have flaws, the new C7 has some too. Warm these things up properly before hitting the revlimiter and keep up with quality oil & filter changes.
I am in a circle of 8 LS7 original owners ranging from '06 to '13 model years. One car a '08 now has over 130,000 miles, with none having engine issues.
Due your own research if you're concerned.
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Originally Posted by hotrod03
Explain "Big Bugaboo" it must be serious
Read: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...uide-wear.html

C'mon over to C6 Z06, tons of info on alleged issue there.
I say 'alleged' because not all LS7s frag due to prematurely worn valve guide(s) causing one or more valves to break.
When a valve breaks on a LS7 it drops into cylinder easily punching a hole through liner/aluminum block.
This happens & a new LS7 is required as original is trashed.
Then one's shopping for a replacement LS7, not inexpensive, cost could run from $13-$18K depending what's bought, short block/factory built, preowned etc...and then there's labor to correctly install.
This, is important.

Thing is we've several members in 6 digits still running strong, I'm only at 56K and all's well. So far.
Due to where I live there aren't any shops I c/would trust.
A GMEPP from Ken Fictner was the answer, covered 'til '19 & more miles than I'll use. Of course LS7 must be factory stock, no tune no nothing. Period.
*3 yr GMEPP cost me $1K < a head rebuild so made financial sense going GMEPP this time. After '19, will need to get a rebuild, somewhere.
IF your CE isn't covered by an aftermarket warranty consider getting one IF car's to be left stock.

Either way, warranty or not, I highly suggest valve train be thoroughly inspected by most competent shop available --explicitly checking for excessive valve stem movement indicative of worn guide(s).
Just to be on the safe side.

IF your valves are 'out-of-spec'?
Most LS7 CF owners get WCC or AHR rebuilt heads w/ new guides and they're golden.
Couple rebuilders even offer a swap plan where they send rebuilt heads & you send back cores minimizing downtime.
We owners love it.

Lots of choices re heads, all detailed @ Z06.
Hope to see you there.

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Beautiful car Hotrod03.
Funny I've owned one since new (2006) and added a second LS7 (427) in 2015. I can't find a problem. I've done actual research and looked at the stats, the percentage of cars with incidents is so small IMO it's crazy to worry about it. You did not hear about these cars having problems until the last few years. If you look at the government statistics most claims/reports were relatively recent, in the last few years. At the time I looked about a year ago, less than 100 on over 30,000 LS7's built.
A recommendation to someone looking for a nice LS7 powered car is to look for an original owner, lower mileage if possible, with good disciplined maintenance.
These cars were built to be run. Many have and not been well taken care of, then they break. If you can't help but worry about a train coming, get it checked. Oil analysis helps with some worries too.
I realize with any new car, some will have flaws, the new C7 has some too. Warm these things up properly before hitting the revlimiter and keep up with quality oil & filter changes.
I am in a circle of 8 LS7 original owners ranging from '06 to '13 model years. One car a '08 now has over 130,000 miles, with none having engine issues.
Due your own research if you're concerned.
Bill
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Bill! Thank you!
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Originally Posted by Landru
Pretty special these LS7s, eh?
Congrats on a beautiful CE, a genuine keeper.

Had a very good friend w/ a Marina Blue (?) '68 L-88 in '70.
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That our LS7s c/would easily smoke a L-88 has me shaking my head to this day. Owned my Z06 for 9 years and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

C6 Z06 & CE 427s are simply special and one has to simply own/drive one to get-it.
Well said exactly!!!

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