would the 4 speed auto be sportier than the 6 speed auto?
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would the 4 speed auto be sportier than the 6 speed auto?
I feel like they made a 6 speed for better fuel economy. but is the 2005 4 speed auto better in terms of track?
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Simple answer ...
Had the A4 been better at anything vs the A6, GM would never have dumped the A4 for the A6.
Had the A4 been better at anything vs the A6, GM would never have dumped the A4 for the A6.
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Lisa ...
Are you sure about that?
Are you sure about that?
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Back in the day, a 4-speed was a big deal over a 3-speed (sticks). The numbers in the original Olds "4-4-2" muscle car meant it had a 4-speed, 4-barrel carb, and dual exhaust.
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Showroom Stock LS2 (2005 -2007)
12.215 @ 115.45 - LS1LT1 - 06 A6 - (1278)
12.235 @ 115.58 - 06C6FVR - 06 M6 Z51 - (333)
12.290 @ 114.29 - Proney - 07 M6 - (4500)
12.314 @ 114.82 - CYA Vett - 05 M6 F55 - (675)
12.422 @ 113.90 - DrRichie - 05 M6 Z51
12.499 @ 114.90 - Jschindler - 05 M6 Z51
12.53x @ 113.00 - Wicked07C6 - 07 M6 Z51 - (914)
12.540 @ 113.59 - Tony 63 Vette - 06 A6 - (1510)
12.548 @ 113.74 - Tony96LT4 - 06 A6 Z51 - (1149)
12.56x @ 113.39 - Red Sleeper - 06 A6
12.215 @ 115.45 - LS1LT1 - 06 A6 - (1278)
12.235 @ 115.58 - 06C6FVR - 06 M6 Z51 - (333)
12.290 @ 114.29 - Proney - 07 M6 - (4500)
12.314 @ 114.82 - CYA Vett - 05 M6 F55 - (675)
12.422 @ 113.90 - DrRichie - 05 M6 Z51
12.499 @ 114.90 - Jschindler - 05 M6 Z51
12.53x @ 113.00 - Wicked07C6 - 07 M6 Z51 - (914)
12.540 @ 113.59 - Tony 63 Vette - 06 A6 - (1510)
12.548 @ 113.74 - Tony96LT4 - 06 A6 Z51 - (1149)
12.56x @ 113.39 - Red Sleeper - 06 A6
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1968swbbigblock (10-14-2017)
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the A4 4L65E is the strongest auto trany put in any year of C6.easier to tune or rebuild and the majority of tuners are lost trying to tune A6's.ECS and RPM transmission no longer care to build A6's because of all the issues with them.if you find the right builder,tuner for the A6 good luck to you.friends car is on its 4th A6 and will have to see how this one holds up.most conversions done on C6 cars with A6 or M6 go to 4 speed
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the A4 4L65E is the strongest auto trany put in any year of C6.easier to tune or rebuild and the majority of tuners are lost trying to tune A6's.ECS and RPM transmission no longer care to build A6's because of all the issues with them.if you find the right builder,tuner for the A6 good luck to you.friends car is on its 4th A6 and will have to see how this one holds up.most conversions done on C6 cars with A6 or M6 go to 4 speed
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Corvette Forum members 1/4-mile drag from the C6 Tech forum:
Showroom Stock LS2 (2005 -2007)
12.215 @ 115.45 - LS1LT1 - 06 A6 - (1278)
12.235 @ 115.58 - 06C6FVR - 06 M6 Z51 - (333)
12.290 @ 114.29 - Proney - 07 M6 - (4500)
12.314 @ 114.82 - CYA Vett - 05 M6 F55 - (675)
12.422 @ 113.90 - DrRichie - 05 M6 Z51
12.499 @ 114.90 - Jschindler - 05 M6 Z51
12.53x @ 113.00 - Wicked07C6 - 07 M6 Z51 - (914)
12.540 @ 113.59 - Tony 63 Vette - 06 A6 - (1510)
12.548 @ 113.74 - Tony96LT4 - 06 A6 Z51 - (1149)
12.56x @ 113.39 - Red Sleeper - 06 A6
Which one's faster, A4s or A6s?
Showroom Stock LS2 (2005 -2007)
12.215 @ 115.45 - LS1LT1 - 06 A6 - (1278)
12.235 @ 115.58 - 06C6FVR - 06 M6 Z51 - (333)
12.290 @ 114.29 - Proney - 07 M6 - (4500)
12.314 @ 114.82 - CYA Vett - 05 M6 F55 - (675)
12.422 @ 113.90 - DrRichie - 05 M6 Z51
12.499 @ 114.90 - Jschindler - 05 M6 Z51
12.53x @ 113.00 - Wicked07C6 - 07 M6 Z51 - (914)
12.540 @ 113.59 - Tony 63 Vette - 06 A6 - (1510)
12.548 @ 113.74 - Tony96LT4 - 06 A6 Z51 - (1149)
12.56x @ 113.39 - Red Sleeper - 06 A6
Which one's faster, A4s or A6s?
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The A4 has the following ratios;
3.06
1.63
1.00
.070
Standard rear was 2.73 with and optional 3.15
A6
4.02
2.36
1.53
1.15
0.85
0.67
rear 2.56 After 2007 model, the 2.73 became an option.
So as you can see, 4th gear in the A4 was an overdrive while the A6 it does not come into effect until 5th gear. Also the difference is the rear gear is a higher gear in the A6.
If you have the A6, simply use the paddles so you can control the shift points and most likely at the drag strip you will not ever need 5th or 6th.
3.06
1.63
1.00
.070
Standard rear was 2.73 with and optional 3.15
A6
4.02
2.36
1.53
1.15
0.85
0.67
rear 2.56 After 2007 model, the 2.73 became an option.
So as you can see, 4th gear in the A4 was an overdrive while the A6 it does not come into effect until 5th gear. Also the difference is the rear gear is a higher gear in the A6.
If you have the A6, simply use the paddles so you can control the shift points and most likely at the drag strip you will not ever need 5th or 6th.
Last edited by BWF07; 10-14-2017 at 09:23 AM.
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Usually pros and cons to any kind of tranny set up. Lots of variables to consider. But lets face it....in todays testosterone filled auto world it sounds much better when man can thump chest while saying..."Me have 6 speed, and you have only 4".....:
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True, there are no A4s on that slow list. Now, lets check out a couple of the fast lists.
Internal Engine Modifications LS2
10.157 @ 129.43 - Stanger383 - 05 A4 - CAI, conv, 3.42, H&C, hdr, ptb, Z06muff, tune, & more, DR - (6370)
10.163 @ 131.08 - Dennis50NJ - 05 A4 Z51 - CAI, cb, conv, ewp, pfast, 3.73, H&C, hdr, ptb, tune, & more, DR - (6493)
10.585 @ 131.43 - DSP300C - 07 M6 – al/fw, CAI, cb, ewp, pfast, 4.10, H&C, hdr, 100maf, tune, DR - (4430)
10.665 @ 133.29 - Braciole - 07 M6 - CAI, cb, dp, ewp, pfast, 4.10, hdr, H&C, tune, DR - (4296)
10.672 @ 128.31 - Justasheet - 05 A4 Z51 - CAI, cb, H&C, conv, pfast, 3.73, hdr, ptb, mh, Z06 Muff, tune, DR - (6510)
10.815 @ 128.07 - Joe G - 05 M6 Z51 - CAI, cb, cam, pfast, 4.10, hdrs, tune, DR - (5758)
10.821 @ 127.85 - Silver93vert - 06 A6 - CAI, conv, fast, H&C, hdr, udp, tune, & more DR - (4579)
10.844 @ 125.83 - Tony B4 - 06 A6 - CAI, cam, cb, conv, hdr, ported int/tb, udp, tune, DR - (4010)
10.87x @ 125.33 - Tek-Newbie - 05 A4 - CAI, cb, conv, fast, 3.42, H&C, hdr, tune, DR
Power Adders LS2 (supercharger, turbo, nitrous)
09.522 @ 144.71 - Tucan26 - 05 A4 - SC, alky, cam, conv, fast, hdr, RPM trans, tune, DR - (6729)
09.732 @ 143.17 - Doug@ECS - 05 A4 F55 -Novi 2200, alky, cam, conv, 3.42, hdr, RPM trans, tune, DR - (3258)
09.905 @ 137.89 - BlownC6 - 07 A6 – SC, alky, Cam, cb, conv, hdr, Fuel sys, tune, & more, DR - (7142)
09.936 @ 136.88 - Tekhombre - 05 A4 - SC, Cartek cus fuel sys, H&C, hf cats, HD rad, tune, DR - (1153)
09.984 @ 135.44 - Shoaf85 - 07 M6 – Upp Twin Turbo, drag pk, fuel sys, twin disk, 4.10, tune, DR - (6363)
10.065 @ 141.65 - Jutskin - 05 A4 Z51 – SC Cam, coil overs, Flipdrive, Fast 3.42, Z06rear, & more, DR - (5901)
10.154 @ 139.08 - Devilish34 - 07 M6 - SC, hdr, meth, pintake, Z06 rear, tune, DR - (6701)
10.227 @ 143.70 - FactoryRaceCar - 05 A4 – TTurbo & alky, conv, 3.42, Z06rear, RPM Trans, tune, & more, DR - (5375)
Larger Displacement (All entries)
07.982 @ 174.44 - Tluck - 05 A4 Z51 - 427cid, turbo, power glide, eldbrock intake, coil overs, & more, tune, DR - (6296)
09.513 @ 148.77 - Todd@RPM - 05 A4 -TT, 427cid, fuel sys, 3.42, L92 heads, RPM Trans, tune, DR - (4274)
09.680 @ 139.20 - JThurik - 10 A6 GS - 377 forged internals, SC, hdr, meth, xpipe, tune, DR - (6722)
09.681 @ 148.36 - Winters 97 GT - 08 M6 - 402, SC, alky, B&B mufflers, tune, DR - (5881)
09.751 @ 147.05 - Icevettez06 - 05 M6 - 402 APSTT, alky, fast, fuel system, Z06 trans, more, tune, DR - (6301)
09.803 @ 141.05 - Pete Champion Motors - 06 A6 – 502 cid, cam, conv, cust intake, hdr,3.15, ph, tune, DR - (7066)
09.895 @ 138.76 - Blue RacerC6 - 05 A4 Z51 - SC LPE 427,N20 (100) & RPM trans, tune, DR - (4273)
Internal Engine Modifications LS2
10.157 @ 129.43 - Stanger383 - 05 A4 - CAI, conv, 3.42, H&C, hdr, ptb, Z06muff, tune, & more, DR - (6370)
10.163 @ 131.08 - Dennis50NJ - 05 A4 Z51 - CAI, cb, conv, ewp, pfast, 3.73, H&C, hdr, ptb, tune, & more, DR - (6493)
10.585 @ 131.43 - DSP300C - 07 M6 – al/fw, CAI, cb, ewp, pfast, 4.10, H&C, hdr, 100maf, tune, DR - (4430)
10.665 @ 133.29 - Braciole - 07 M6 - CAI, cb, dp, ewp, pfast, 4.10, hdr, H&C, tune, DR - (4296)
10.672 @ 128.31 - Justasheet - 05 A4 Z51 - CAI, cb, H&C, conv, pfast, 3.73, hdr, ptb, mh, Z06 Muff, tune, DR - (6510)
10.815 @ 128.07 - Joe G - 05 M6 Z51 - CAI, cb, cam, pfast, 4.10, hdrs, tune, DR - (5758)
10.821 @ 127.85 - Silver93vert - 06 A6 - CAI, conv, fast, H&C, hdr, udp, tune, & more DR - (4579)
10.844 @ 125.83 - Tony B4 - 06 A6 - CAI, cam, cb, conv, hdr, ported int/tb, udp, tune, DR - (4010)
10.87x @ 125.33 - Tek-Newbie - 05 A4 - CAI, cb, conv, fast, 3.42, H&C, hdr, tune, DR
Power Adders LS2 (supercharger, turbo, nitrous)
09.522 @ 144.71 - Tucan26 - 05 A4 - SC, alky, cam, conv, fast, hdr, RPM trans, tune, DR - (6729)
09.732 @ 143.17 - Doug@ECS - 05 A4 F55 -Novi 2200, alky, cam, conv, 3.42, hdr, RPM trans, tune, DR - (3258)
09.905 @ 137.89 - BlownC6 - 07 A6 – SC, alky, Cam, cb, conv, hdr, Fuel sys, tune, & more, DR - (7142)
09.936 @ 136.88 - Tekhombre - 05 A4 - SC, Cartek cus fuel sys, H&C, hf cats, HD rad, tune, DR - (1153)
09.984 @ 135.44 - Shoaf85 - 07 M6 – Upp Twin Turbo, drag pk, fuel sys, twin disk, 4.10, tune, DR - (6363)
10.065 @ 141.65 - Jutskin - 05 A4 Z51 – SC Cam, coil overs, Flipdrive, Fast 3.42, Z06rear, & more, DR - (5901)
10.154 @ 139.08 - Devilish34 - 07 M6 - SC, hdr, meth, pintake, Z06 rear, tune, DR - (6701)
10.227 @ 143.70 - FactoryRaceCar - 05 A4 – TTurbo & alky, conv, 3.42, Z06rear, RPM Trans, tune, & more, DR - (5375)
Larger Displacement (All entries)
07.982 @ 174.44 - Tluck - 05 A4 Z51 - 427cid, turbo, power glide, eldbrock intake, coil overs, & more, tune, DR - (6296)
09.513 @ 148.77 - Todd@RPM - 05 A4 -TT, 427cid, fuel sys, 3.42, L92 heads, RPM Trans, tune, DR - (4274)
09.680 @ 139.20 - JThurik - 10 A6 GS - 377 forged internals, SC, hdr, meth, xpipe, tune, DR - (6722)
09.681 @ 148.36 - Winters 97 GT - 08 M6 - 402, SC, alky, B&B mufflers, tune, DR - (5881)
09.751 @ 147.05 - Icevettez06 - 05 M6 - 402 APSTT, alky, fast, fuel system, Z06 trans, more, tune, DR - (6301)
09.803 @ 141.05 - Pete Champion Motors - 06 A6 – 502 cid, cam, conv, cust intake, hdr,3.15, ph, tune, DR - (7066)
09.895 @ 138.76 - Blue RacerC6 - 05 A4 Z51 - SC LPE 427,N20 (100) & RPM trans, tune, DR - (4273)
Last edited by EVRose; 10-14-2017 at 10:52 AM.
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Drifting
From what I remember reading, A4's are more desirable if you're building a race transmission or modifying one for the track, they seem to be stronger then the A6's. Me personally, I don't race so I'd prefer the A6 with the paddle shifters...my next C6 will have that setup.