Headers worth it without Mid Pipe?
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Pro
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Headers worth it without Mid Pipe?
Looking at buy the Hinson headers to go with my always open NPP. Question is.. Do I need the mid pipe to go with it? Or is the stock one still fine?
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#3
Race Director
Anything can be done if you or someone is really good at fabrication. Life sure is a lot easier when you by the matching off-road or x pipe with high flow cats.
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Or are you suggesting change the entire system from Headers all the way to mufflers? I'm sure that can be done too. But some people who have the NPP mufflers would want to keep it for the fact that it's OEM and can be controlled with mild to wild set-up. Hope that helps OP also somewhat....just sharing ideas...
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No matter what brand of long tube headers you buy, you cannot use your stock midpipe.
Since headers are much longer than the OEM exhaust manifolds, the midpipe must be much shorter than your OEM midpipe in order for the midpipe to attach to your mufflers.
Also the bend (orientation) of your original OEM midpipe is not correct for use with long tube headers.
In short .... You NEED the aftermarket midpipe that is designed for use with the particular headers you purchase.
Since headers are much longer than the OEM exhaust manifolds, the midpipe must be much shorter than your OEM midpipe in order for the midpipe to attach to your mufflers.
Also the bend (orientation) of your original OEM midpipe is not correct for use with long tube headers.
In short .... You NEED the aftermarket midpipe that is designed for use with the particular headers you purchase.
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Le Mans Master
No matter what brand of long tube headers you buy, you cannot use your stock midpipe.
Since headers are much longer than the OEM exhaust manifolds, the midpipe must be much shorter than your OEM midpipe in order for the midpipe to attach to your mufflers.
Also the bend (orientation) of your original OEM midpipe is not correct for use with long tube headers.
In short .... You NEED the aftermarket midpipe that is designed for use with the particular headers you purchase.
Since headers are much longer than the OEM exhaust manifolds, the midpipe must be much shorter than your OEM midpipe in order for the midpipe to attach to your mufflers.
Also the bend (orientation) of your original OEM midpipe is not correct for use with long tube headers.
In short .... You NEED the aftermarket midpipe that is designed for use with the particular headers you purchase.
Dave
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No matter what brand of long tube headers you buy, you cannot use your stock midpipe.
Since headers are much longer than the OEM exhaust manifolds, the midpipe must be much shorter than your OEM midpipe in order for the midpipe to attach to your mufflers.
Also the bend (orientation) of your original OEM midpipe is not correct for use with long tube headers.
In short .... You NEED the aftermarket midpipe that is designed for use with the particular headers you purchase.
Since headers are much longer than the OEM exhaust manifolds, the midpipe must be much shorter than your OEM midpipe in order for the midpipe to attach to your mufflers.
Also the bend (orientation) of your original OEM midpipe is not correct for use with long tube headers.
In short .... You NEED the aftermarket midpipe that is designed for use with the particular headers you purchase.
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Race Director
So I am understanding you're saying - get the headers, then X pipe (with high flow cats), attached to the NPP cat back?
Or are you suggesting change the entire system from Headers all the way to mufflers? I'm sure that can be done too. But some people who have the NPP mufflers would want to keep it for the fact that it's OEM and can be controlled with mild to wild set-up. Hope that helps OP also somewhat....just sharing ideas...
Or are you suggesting change the entire system from Headers all the way to mufflers? I'm sure that can be done too. But some people who have the NPP mufflers would want to keep it for the fact that it's OEM and can be controlled with mild to wild set-up. Hope that helps OP also somewhat....just sharing ideas...
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#12
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I ran these on my old 05' and loved them, they come ceramic coated and they fit and sound great.
For how little they cost, they're a pretty good deal.
$829 shipped to your front door is hard to beat.
Heres a video of the car with Hinson Longtubes, no cats, and a B&B NPP catback.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz...3BqNHItV21nN3c
Heres a link to the Hinson Page
without Cats
https://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-86...es-silver.aspx
Edit: Link fixed
For how little they cost, they're a pretty good deal.
$829 shipped to your front door is hard to beat.
Heres a video of the car with Hinson Longtubes, no cats, and a B&B NPP catback.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz...3BqNHItV21nN3c
Heres a link to the Hinson Page
without Cats
https://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-86...es-silver.aspx
Edit: Link fixed
Last edited by I say NA to boost; 02-15-2018 at 03:24 PM.
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Pro
Thread Starter
I ran these on my old 05' and loved them, they come ceramic coated and they fit and sound great.
For how little they cost, they're a pretty good deal.
$829 shipped to your front door is hard to beat.
Heres a video of the car with Hinson Longtubes, no cats, and a B&B NPP catback.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzO...ew?usp=sharing
Heres a link to the Hinson Page
without Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-861...es-silver.aspx
with Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-126...pes-black.aspx
For how little they cost, they're a pretty good deal.
$829 shipped to your front door is hard to beat.
Heres a video of the car with Hinson Longtubes, no cats, and a B&B NPP catback.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzO...ew?usp=sharing
Heres a link to the Hinson Page
without Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-861...es-silver.aspx
with Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-126...pes-black.aspx
#14
Instructor
heres a current link:
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-860...pes-black.aspx
#15
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Thread Starter
You have to have a mid pipe that will fit on the headers.
heres a current link:
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-860...pes-black.aspx
heres a current link:
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-860...pes-black.aspx
https://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-86...ted-black.aspx
And bolt it right up to my stock mid pipe.
Edit: I now see the tiny pint at the bottom "*Note - X-pipe not included in this kit. You will need to buy the HINSON X-pipe or build your own."
So looks like I do need the xpipe with these headers.
Last edited by Adam Cifonelli; 02-15-2018 at 11:49 AM.
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Safety Car
I ran these on my old 05' and loved them, they come ceramic coated and they fit and sound great.
For how little they cost, they're a pretty good deal.
$829 shipped to your front door is hard to beat.
Heres a video of the car with Hinson Longtubes, no cats, and a B&B NPP catback.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzO...ew?usp=sharing
Heres a link to the Hinson Page
without Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-861...es-silver.aspx
with Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-126...pes-black.aspx
For how little they cost, they're a pretty good deal.
$829 shipped to your front door is hard to beat.
Heres a video of the car with Hinson Longtubes, no cats, and a B&B NPP catback.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzO...ew?usp=sharing
Heres a link to the Hinson Page
without Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-861...es-silver.aspx
with Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-126...pes-black.aspx
#19
Instructor
I guess I don't quite understand why you would want to connect to the stock mid pipe. The whole idea of going to longtubes is to improve flow through the exhaust. The stock cats and H pipe are horribly restrictive, thats why a ton of people replace them. For nearly the same price you can get a catless mid pipe and headers that will significantly improve flow through the system; and in turn power if its tuned for it.
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