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Old 02-15-2018, 12:40 AM
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Default Headers worth it without Mid Pipe?

Looking at buy the Hinson headers to go with my always open NPP. Question is.. Do I need the mid pipe to go with it? Or is the stock one still fine?
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Originally Posted by Adam Cifonelli
Looking at buy the Hinson headers to go with my always open NPP. Question is.. Do I need the mid pipe to go with it? Or is the stock one still fine?
I'd wanna know too, brother...
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Anything can be done if you or someone is really good at fabrication. Life sure is a lot easier when you by the matching off-road or x pipe with high flow cats.
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Anything can be done if you or someone is really good at fabrication. Life sure is a lot easier when you by the matching off-road or x pipe with high flow cats.
So I am understanding you're saying - get the headers, then X pipe (with high flow cats), attached to the NPP cat back?

Or are you suggesting change the entire system from Headers all the way to mufflers? I'm sure that can be done too. But some people who have the NPP mufflers would want to keep it for the fact that it's OEM and can be controlled with mild to wild set-up. Hope that helps OP also somewhat....just sharing ideas...
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obx comes 2-1/2 inch headers and mid. Good reviews for an import and bolts right up to your 2-1/2 muffler inlets.
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No matter what brand of long tube headers you buy, you cannot use your stock midpipe.

Since headers are much longer than the OEM exhaust manifolds, the midpipe must be much shorter than your OEM midpipe in order for the midpipe to attach to your mufflers.

Also the bend (orientation) of your original OEM midpipe is not correct for use with long tube headers.

In short .... You NEED the aftermarket midpipe that is designed for use with the particular headers you purchase.
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Originally Posted by Turbo6TA
No matter what brand of long tube headers you buy, you cannot use your stock midpipe.

Since headers are much longer than the OEM exhaust manifolds, the midpipe must be much shorter than your OEM midpipe in order for the midpipe to attach to your mufflers.

Also the bend (orientation) of your original OEM midpipe is not correct for use with long tube headers.

In short .... You NEED the aftermarket midpipe that is designed for use with the particular headers you purchase.

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Originally Posted by Turbo6TA
No matter what brand of long tube headers you buy, you cannot use your stock midpipe.

Since headers are much longer than the OEM exhaust manifolds, the midpipe must be much shorter than your OEM midpipe in order for the midpipe to attach to your mufflers.

Also the bend (orientation) of your original OEM midpipe is not correct for use with long tube headers.

In short .... You NEED the aftermarket midpipe that is designed for use with the particular headers you purchase.
The billy boats connect to OEM x.
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Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
So I am understanding you're saying - get the headers, then X pipe (with high flow cats), attached to the NPP cat back?

Or are you suggesting change the entire system from Headers all the way to mufflers? I'm sure that can be done too. But some people who have the NPP mufflers would want to keep it for the fact that it's OEM and can be controlled with mild to wild set-up. Hope that helps OP also somewhat....just sharing ideas...
You can still use your axle back exhaust.
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Originally Posted by Ahrmike
The billy boats connect to OEM x.

Bing! you are absolutely correct. That's the same reason I'm running B&B LT's headers on my Z06. Bolt right up, no modification needed.
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Originally Posted by itomh
Bing! you are absolutely correct. That's the same reason I'm running B&B LT's headers on my Z06. Bolt right up, no modification needed.
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I ran these on my old 05' and loved them, they come ceramic coated and they fit and sound great.

For how little they cost, they're a pretty good deal.
$829 shipped to your front door is hard to beat.

Heres a video of the car with Hinson Longtubes, no cats, and a B&B NPP catback.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz...3BqNHItV21nN3c

Heres a link to the Hinson Page
without Cats
https://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-86...es-silver.aspx


Edit: Link fixed

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Originally Posted by I say NA to boost
I ran these on my old 05' and loved them, they come ceramic coated and they fit and sound great.

For how little they cost, they're a pretty good deal.
$829 shipped to your front door is hard to beat.

Heres a video of the car with Hinson Longtubes, no cats, and a B&B NPP catback.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzO...ew?usp=sharing

Heres a link to the Hinson Page
without Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-861...es-silver.aspx
with Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-126...pes-black.aspx
I wanted to buy the Hinson headers but didnt wanna spring for the x pipe. From what I read the Hinson headers wont bolt right on to the stock mid pipe?
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Originally Posted by Adam Cifonelli
I wanted to buy the Hinson headers but didnt wanna spring for the x pipe. From what I read the Hinson headers wont bolt right on to the stock mid pipe?
You have to have a mid pipe that will fit on the headers.

heres a current link:
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-860...pes-black.aspx
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Originally Posted by I say NA to boost
You have to have a mid pipe that will fit on the headers.

heres a current link:
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-860...pes-black.aspx
Thats for the Z06. I have a base. I wanted to just buy:

https://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-86...ted-black.aspx

And bolt it right up to my stock mid pipe.

Edit: I now see the tiny pint at the bottom "*Note - X-pipe not included in this kit. You will need to buy the HINSON X-pipe or build your own."
So looks like I do need the xpipe with these headers.

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Originally Posted by I say NA to boost
I ran these on my old 05' and loved them, they come ceramic coated and they fit and sound great.

For how little they cost, they're a pretty good deal.
$829 shipped to your front door is hard to beat.

Heres a video of the car with Hinson Longtubes, no cats, and a B&B NPP catback.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzO...ew?usp=sharing

Heres a link to the Hinson Page
without Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-861...es-silver.aspx
with Cats
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-126...pes-black.aspx
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Originally Posted by Ahrmike
The billy boats connect to OEM x.
Originally Posted by itomh
Bing! you are absolutely correct. That's the same reason I'm running B&B LT's headers on my Z06. Bolt right up, no modification needed.
Same here. BB longtubes on my LS3 bolt up to the factory x-pipe.
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I guess I don't quite understand why you would want to connect to the stock mid pipe. The whole idea of going to longtubes is to improve flow through the exhaust. The stock cats and H pipe are horribly restrictive, thats why a ton of people replace them. For nearly the same price you can get a catless mid pipe and headers that will significantly improve flow through the system; and in turn power if its tuned for it.
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Originally Posted by I say NA to boost
I guess I don't quite understand why you would want to connect to the stock mid pipe. .
Save money. But Ill just have to fork it over.

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