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Old 02-17-2018, 10:42 AM
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Hey guys,

Yesterday I had some service performed on my car by a local performance shop and noticed they put about a 1/2" to an 1" mark on my paint by the rear brake ducts. Of course, I was absolutely livid. It just sucks that you have to worry about your car coming back in a different condition than when you brought it in.

It's not too deep because some of the paint is still left. I'm somewhat of a regular so luckily they didn't fight me on this at all and the owner is willing to make it right and schedule something with his body shop to fix it.

My question is this, I am extremely hesitant to have the entire panel repainted (especially with JSB paint). Should I also be skeptical to have his body shop do the repairs rather than one of my own choosing? What do you guys think is the best way to go about this? Can this be fixed without repainting the entire panel? Here is a picture of the damage:




Would greatly appreciate any input. Thanks guys!
Old 02-17-2018, 10:46 AM
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Assuming that if you take it somewhere else that your gonna have to pay for it yourself ??.....might as well give them a shot at fixing a spot that small for free. Maybe you'll be happy enough with the results. If not then take it somewhere else.
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I hate to say it but I would not repaint the panel as it may not match. I would collect the money and find a high end body shop.ask him the best way. Maybe touch it up with a company that repairs scratches for dealers or use Dr colorchip and repair yourself. I’m just afraid that if it’s painted, it may not match 100%
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Old 02-17-2018, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by enventr
I hate to say it but I would not repaint the panel as it may not match. I would collect the money and find a high end body shop.ask him the best way. Maybe touch it up with a company that repairs scratches for dealers or use Dr colorchip and repair yourself. I’m just afraid that if it’s painted, it may not match 100%
Appreciate your input. Repainting the panel is definitely something that I do not want to do. Touching up this small blemish would still look far better than mismatched panels; Especially since JSB is a tri-coat finish.
Old 02-17-2018, 03:01 PM
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touch that up,,you will never see it in a year,,if you paint the whole panel,it will never be right
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Originally Posted by Frankie15
Appreciate your input. Repainting the panel is definitely something that I do not want to do. Touching up this small blemish would still look far better than mismatched panels; Especially since JSB is a tri-coat finish.
Ive seem blemishes like that before and a good touch up man made it almost impossible to see, it came out super Frankie, I would not repaint a quarter panel just for that myself. At the very least have it touched up by a pro or maybe even try it yourself, if you screw it up than take it to a pro.
I used Dr. Color Chip on chips in the same spot and it came out almost invisible with a great color match of SSB.
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Ive seem blemishes like that before and a good touch up man made it almost impossible to see, it came out super Frankie, I would not repaint a quarter panel just for that myself. At the very least have it touched up by a pro or maybe even try it yourself, if you screw it up than take it to a pro.
I used Dr. Color Chip on chips in the same spot and it came out almost invisible with a great color match of SSB.
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That looks great for sure! Hardly noticeable from that distance. Definitely won't be able to notice a few more feet away.

The owner of the shop would prefer that I have the entire panel repainted and blended so it was just as good as it was before. I'm worried about the blending aspect. Aren't adjacent panels touched in order to accomplish blending?

I insisted that I would prefer a professional touch up job because I just could not deal with it if the paint was not a 100% perfect match.

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Originally Posted by Frankie15
That looks great for sure! Hardly noticeable from that distance. Definitely won't be able to notice a few more feet away.

The owner of the shop would prefer that I have the entire panel repainted and blended so it was just as good as it was before. I'm worried about the blending aspect. Aren't adjacent panels touched in order to accomplish blending?

I insisted that I would prefer a professional touch up job because I just could not deal with it if the paint was not a 100% perfect match.
Well the truly good shops do know how to blend or panel match, I've seen very good jobs they have done so just pick wisely, but before that I would try a touch up method, then if your not satisfied go with a panel match
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:12 AM
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I have had individual body panels painted and it never matched right especially under certain type of light like a gas station. I would try to get that touched up. That looks like a small mark to have a whole panel painted to be honest.
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Originally Posted by Frankie15
That looks great for sure! Hardly noticeable from that distance. Definitely won't be able to notice a few more feet away.

The owner of the shop would prefer that I have the entire panel repainted and blended so it was just as good as it was before. I'm worried about the blending aspect. Aren't adjacent panels touched in order to accomplish blending?

I insisted that I would prefer a professional touch up job because I just could not deal with it if the paint was not a 100% perfect match.
if your thinking of doing any type of paint repair try wet sanding and polishing first by a proffessional.had a gouge that was 2 feet long that disappeared after wet sanding and polishing
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did you try to buff it out?

If so, maybe touch up with an airbrush?
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I think I would wet sand/polish first, then Dr color chip for a back up.
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Touch it up and move on.

Life really is too short to stress about this kinda of stuff. When some real misfortune comes along in life (and it will) the last thing on your mind will be that tiny little scratch. JMHO
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+ 1 post 13.

No worse than a rock chip.
I would not repaint the panel.
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Thanks for your input guys. I really do appreciate it and it helps.

R&L, you're right. In hindsight, it is. It's just really upsetting to see initially, but there are such bigger misfortunes that can occur in life.

I agree with the majority of you who are saying not to repaint the panel. I would rather get this touched up. A mismatched panel (even if only under certain lighting conditions like mentioned by slowstang) would bother me far more than seeing a touched up scratch that is only visible <2 feet away.

I will see if the shop can wet sand and polish. It might work because there is still some paint left from the scratch. Otherwise, touching it up would be preferable.
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Depending on the color, the blend can occur entirely within the panel. Typically, the entire panel will be clear coated, though some painters are skillful enough to burn in the clear coat.
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Originally Posted by Frankie15
Thanks for your input guys. I really do appreciate it and it helps.

R&L, you're right. In hindsight, it is. It's just really upsetting to see initially, but there are such bigger misfortunes that can occur in life.

I agree with the majority of you who are saying not to repaint the panel. I would rather get this touched up. A mismatched panel (even if only under certain lighting conditions like mentioned by slowstang) would bother me far more than seeing a touched up scratch that is only visible <2 feet away.

I will see if the shop can wet sand and polish. It might work because there is still some paint left from the scratch. Otherwise, touching it up would be preferable.
I think that may polish out fine.

But even if the scratch was deep, nobody would reapply color to the entire fender. The scuff is miles away from adjoining panels.

The most involved repair would be to sand the clear coat, repaint just the damaged area while blending into the surrounding, and then re-clear the whole fender. Done properly, it would look fine.

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Old 02-20-2018, 02:15 PM
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As most have said, I would touch up the scratch only and not repaint the panel. Certain colors are tricky. I bought a new hood for my wife's '16 Wrangler Unlimited that is Granite Crystal Metallic - the bodyshop matched the color & metallic perfectly. My wife then got rear-ended in our '16 Mitsubishi Outlander that is Cool Silver Metallic. The entire rear bumper panel, rear hatch, and front bumper panel (she got slammed into the truck in front of her at a red light) had to be replaced. It took 4 separate attempts by the same bodyshop that did the Jeep to match the color. They had to have the reps from the paint manufacturer come out and view the panels, their paint mixture, etc. and said they ended up having to use completely different % of toners than what the manufacturer called for to finally match the color. I'd hate for them to mess up your color and you have to keep taking it back.
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A good body shop will blend the color within the panel and clear the entire panel. It should be painted off the car. Blending to the adjacent panel(s) may be necessary.
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Some colors are difficult; JSB is one of them because of the tinting and the metallic. I agree that it'd be better to have a really good touch up person give it a shot, maybe air brush or some such.

I have an opinion on blending in any form but it's not popular. Given a choice, I would not ever have any paint done by someone who claims they can blend it. jmo


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