Two possible C6 Grand Sports - difference in years? help? Thoughts?
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Two possible C6 Grand Sports - difference in years? help? Thoughts?
As some of you are aware I'm looking at C6 Camaro SS 1LE which is a track monster...but also strongly considering the C6 Corvette Grand Sport as well. Probably also quite good on the track. I've read less twitchy and pretty stable in comparison with the C6 Z06 and other C6 cars?
I've located two GS's that are in contention. One is a 2011, the other is a 2013. The trim packages also different. One is a 1LT and the other is a 3LT. I kind of prefer the idea of a 1LT since it's not my daily driver and if I remember correctly the 1LT is easier to swap out for a recaro seat due to wiring? Seems like I read that here?
Anything I should be aware of between the model years or problems to look for? One is very low miles...maybe too low of miles at roughly 12,000, the other is 27,000 miles.
The car will see some HPDEs, hopefully that won't hurt resale if/when I decide to sell it later, I welcome any and all thoughts.
I've located two GS's that are in contention. One is a 2011, the other is a 2013. The trim packages also different. One is a 1LT and the other is a 3LT. I kind of prefer the idea of a 1LT since it's not my daily driver and if I remember correctly the 1LT is easier to swap out for a recaro seat due to wiring? Seems like I read that here?
Anything I should be aware of between the model years or problems to look for? One is very low miles...maybe too low of miles at roughly 12,000, the other is 27,000 miles.
The car will see some HPDEs, hopefully that won't hurt resale if/when I decide to sell it later, I welcome any and all thoughts.
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If it will be a track car the 1LT may be easier to work with, and lighter of course (not by much though). The one thing you won't have is the HUD which I personally like having for the track. Just make sure they have the dry-sump system and NOT the adjustable suspension.
The 1LT does not have the side airbags to deal with for a seat swap.
The 1LT does not have the side airbags to deal with for a seat swap.
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If it will be a track car the 1LT may be easier to work with, and lighter of course (not by much though). The one thing you won't have is the HUD which I personally like having for the track. Just make sure they have the dry-sump system and NOT the adjustable suspension.
The 1LT does not have the side airbags to deal with for a seat swap.
The 1LT does not have the side airbags to deal with for a seat swap.
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Pretty much what he said. They do make airbag replacement sensors. The 2013 will have newer style seats, which don' really good you any better. Also i think later years, even 1LT got side airbags, not sure when but unseen to recall them becoming optional, and then standard on all models.
HUD is great on track. Nice to be able to keep track of oil temps at a glance without taking your eyes off the track ahead.
HUD is great on track. Nice to be able to keep track of oil temps at a glance without taking your eyes off the track ahead.
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As others have said, the Grand Sport M6 Coupes get the dry sump engine no matter what LT option it has.
The Grand Sport A6 Coupes do not get the dry sump engine.
ALL Grand Sports have the Z16 brake and suspension (no matter what LT option the car has)
Below is a listing of all the components found in the GS Z16 brake and suspension package (and where they came from):
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The Grand Sport A6 Coupes do not get the dry sump engine.
ALL Grand Sports have the Z16 brake and suspension (no matter what LT option the car has)
Below is a listing of all the components found in the GS Z16 brake and suspension package (and where they came from):
Attachment 48339032
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Both real nice cars. How many HPDE events per year? If you're only doing a few, then I personally would go with whichever car you'll enjoy when not tracking it.
If you are looking specifically for which one to get so you can track attack and that is your main focus, I'm not sure performance wise there will be a huge gap. The Camaro 1LE was built for the track, so lots of cooling mods and suspension ready. The Vette will also perform well, but I'm not convinced it will take the beating like the 1LE will without mods.
Tough decision for sure. Have you driven both? I've read some say the Camaro feels heavier than a Vette and they didn't care for it. Plus the Vette gets the Cool Car vote over a Camaro any day.
If you are looking specifically for which one to get so you can track attack and that is your main focus, I'm not sure performance wise there will be a huge gap. The Camaro 1LE was built for the track, so lots of cooling mods and suspension ready. The Vette will also perform well, but I'm not convinced it will take the beating like the 1LE will without mods.
Tough decision for sure. Have you driven both? I've read some say the Camaro feels heavier than a Vette and they didn't care for it. Plus the Vette gets the Cool Car vote over a Camaro any day.
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The Magnetic Suspension was an option on the GS, not sure what trim levels. My current car has it, and I would not get it again if given the choice.
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Both real nice cars. How many HPDE events per year? If you're only doing a few, then I personally would go with whichever car you'll enjoy when not tracking it.
If you are looking specifically for which one to get so you can track attack and that is your main focus, I'm not sure performance wise there will be a huge gap. The Camaro 1LE was built for the track, so lots of cooling mods and suspension ready. The Vette will also perform well, but I'm not convinced it will take the beating like the 1LE will without mods.
Tough decision for sure. Have you driven both? I've read some say the Camaro feels heavier than a Vette and they didn't care for it. Plus the Vette gets the Cool Car vote over a Camaro any day.
If you are looking specifically for which one to get so you can track attack and that is your main focus, I'm not sure performance wise there will be a huge gap. The Camaro 1LE was built for the track, so lots of cooling mods and suspension ready. The Vette will also perform well, but I'm not convinced it will take the beating like the 1LE will without mods.
Tough decision for sure. Have you driven both? I've read some say the Camaro feels heavier than a Vette and they didn't care for it. Plus the Vette gets the Cool Car vote over a Camaro any day.
All cars I'm looking at are 6MT so no worries on the dry sump. Good info so far.
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EDIT: But in 2012, the C6 got nicer looking seat backs than what the 2010-2011 C6 had.
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The mag ride was a separate option regardless of trim as far as I know. I believe it was standard with certain packages such as the Centennial one in 2012.
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I have a silver 13 GS 3LT 6-speed manual coupe with the magnetic ride shocks. Bought it new. Less than 500 GS 6-speed manuals came with the magnetic ride suspension in 2013, so kind of rare. Most came on automatics.
In 2013 the Z06 and ZR1s came with the magnetic ride (as well as several Ferraris). I wanted everything I could get like the ZR1 but had to have the removable roof of the GS. No regrets. Might get a supercharger one day.
I love my GS but if I wanted mainly a track car I'd get a C6 Z06. Good luck
In 2013 the Z06 and ZR1s came with the magnetic ride (as well as several Ferraris). I wanted everything I could get like the ZR1 but had to have the removable roof of the GS. No regrets. Might get a supercharger one day.
I love my GS but if I wanted mainly a track car I'd get a C6 Z06. Good luck
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Will the GS cars have the same fueltank/fuel pump issues other cars are experiencing? I think GM gives 10 years from in-service date to get repaired via TSB?
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As others have said, the Grand Sport M6 Coupes get the dry sump engine no matter what LT option it has.
The Grand Sport A6 Coupes do not get the dry sump engine.
ALL Grand Sports have the Z16 brake and suspension (no matter what LT option the car has)
Below is a listing of all the components found in the GS Z16 brake and suspension package (and where they came from):
The Grand Sport A6 Coupes do not get the dry sump engine.
ALL Grand Sports have the Z16 brake and suspension (no matter what LT option the car has)
Below is a listing of all the components found in the GS Z16 brake and suspension package (and where they came from):
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You need to install the standard 14.0" Z06 rotor on your GS.
A larger rotor is not going to help you in any way as far as braking performance is concerned.
I don't think you could even find a larger diameter rotor that would even fit ... and why would you even try?
A larger rotor is not going to help you in any way as far as braking performance is concerned.
I don't think you could even find a larger diameter rotor that would even fit ... and why would you even try?
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Thats why I was asking. May not be necessary. Just looking at braking options is all.
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14" is about it for fitment. Bit there are 2pc rotors that can be swapped in that help with heat quite aabit. Knsbrakes has a ton of options. The other part is the caliper. The OEM caliper is good, but not great. And a lot of the faster guys have had to replace the OEM caliper withbWilwoods or AP Racing units.
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14" is about it for fitment. Bit there are 2pc rotors that can be swapped in that help with heat quite aabit. Knsbrakes has a ton of options. The other part is the caliper. The OEM caliper is good, but not great. And a lot of the faster guys have had to replace the OEM caliper withbWilwoods or AP Racing units.