Just another old guy rant
#21
Burning Brakes
I've tried to get my 22 year old son interested in basic car maintenance/simple repairs but no luck. So next year when "his" car loan is paid off and I sign it over to him he gets to register/insure it. Wonder how long it will be before he starts complaining he has to keep spending $$$ to get it fixed ?
#22
Burning Brakes
I have very fond memory turning wrenches with my dad on his old Chevelle and then my first car, 1975 Camaro. I do all the basic maintenance for all of our cars (Oil, fluids, Lube, Brakes, Exhaust, Intakes etc) I may end up doing the heads if I get a Z06.
I have shown my son and will show my daughter the basics on checking fluids and changing oil and if he gets interested in it more we will turn more wrenches. He just got his learners so he is getting more and more interested in cars and even talked about getting a classic. Although, I like the safety additions newer cars brought, especially with a new driver.
So do the C6 Z06es not have the Targa Top? They are a solid top? I was thinking of going that route with my upcoming C6 purchase, but I loved having my targa top on on my 94 C4. That would put me back at looking at Z51 or Grand Sports.
Yeah they don't have targa tops. Glad I found that out. Thanks!
I have shown my son and will show my daughter the basics on checking fluids and changing oil and if he gets interested in it more we will turn more wrenches. He just got his learners so he is getting more and more interested in cars and even talked about getting a classic. Although, I like the safety additions newer cars brought, especially with a new driver.
Yeah they don't have targa tops. Glad I found that out. Thanks!
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#24
Melting Slicks
I have very fond memory turning wrenches with my dad on his old Chevelle and then my first car, 1975 Camaro. I do all the basic maintenance for all of our cars (Oil, fluids, Lube, Brakes, Exhaust, Intakes etc) I may end up doing the heads if I get a Z06.
I have shown my son and will show my daughter the basics on checking fluids and changing oil and if he gets interested in it more we will turn more wrenches. He just got his learners so he is getting more and more interested in cars and even talked about getting a classic. Although, I like the safety additions newer cars brought, especially with a new driver.
So do the C6 Z06es not have the Targa Top? They are a solid top? I was thinking of going that route with my upcoming C6 purchase, but I loved having my targa top on on my 94 C4. That would put me back at looking at Z51 or Grand Sports.
Yeah they don't have targa tops. Glad I found that out. Thanks!
I have shown my son and will show my daughter the basics on checking fluids and changing oil and if he gets interested in it more we will turn more wrenches. He just got his learners so he is getting more and more interested in cars and even talked about getting a classic. Although, I like the safety additions newer cars brought, especially with a new driver.
So do the C6 Z06es not have the Targa Top? They are a solid top? I was thinking of going that route with my upcoming C6 purchase, but I loved having my targa top on on my 94 C4. That would put me back at looking at Z51 or Grand Sports.
Yeah they don't have targa tops. Glad I found that out. Thanks!
this issue is currently going on in a different thread.
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When my son recently turned 16 his mother bought a car for him to "use". She, never being the one to understand how anything on a car works, didn't consult me on the purchase and purchased it in an effort to make herself look better than his dad (I believe in working hard for things you have and paying for them yourself as I did when I was 16). This vehicle (2002 Honda CRV with 197,000 miles) didn't appear to be too well-cared for. Original battery with corroded terminals, original tires (date code 3/02) down to the wear bars, power windows & locks not working, etc. all of which she thinks are fine & not worthy of replacing In an effort that he doesn't become stranded, the first thing I instructed him to do was to read the owner's manual front to back. I then started taking him through the what & how of things to check on a regular basis as the OP suggested. My sons & daughters (16, 15, 10, & 9) always help me when working on or even washing the cars. I take those opportunities to teach them about what we are doing, why, how, etc.
I am by no means an expert in anything mechanical, but I do perform most of my own service, do every modification on the vehicles I have equipment to do correctly & constantly learn about the vehicles I have. This weekend my kids & I will be installing longtube headers & new Corsa exhaust on the Grand Sport
The sad part is - to the OP's point, that in today's world the information is so easily obtained (youtube, forums, etc.) that to be in a situation where you can't get out of your Corvette for example is completely unnecessary.
I am by no means an expert in anything mechanical, but I do perform most of my own service, do every modification on the vehicles I have equipment to do correctly & constantly learn about the vehicles I have. This weekend my kids & I will be installing longtube headers & new Corsa exhaust on the Grand Sport
The sad part is - to the OP's point, that in today's world the information is so easily obtained (youtube, forums, etc.) that to be in a situation where you can't get out of your Corvette for example is completely unnecessary.
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#27
Safety Car
I remember when you had to turn a crank to start your car. No I didn't!! Way way before my time. I do remember hand crank windows though. And door locks with the stem, which made it easy to open with a coat hanger when you locked your keys inside.
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I'm probably older than most on this forum and have been doing most of the work on the 60 cars I've owned, along with helping others with their's. I deal with maintenance in the manner that the car requires, based on observing/listening/feeling what the car is telling me. My Vette tells me far more by simply pushing buttons than any other I've owned, so I don't have to do tire pressure checks or coolant level checks on a defined schedule. IIRC, I've only been "stranded" 4 times in 154K miles and the wife's car never in 109K miles. None of the 4 times could have been prevented by prior maintenance checks. It doesn't mean I don't take care of my cars, but I don't overly obsess or have unfounded fears about their condition.
#29
Melting Slicks
We had a Ford 9N tractor that had a hand crank for 50 years, sold it just 4 years ago. It did have a 6V starter but you couldn't count on it. The owners manual was dated 1938 but I think it was a 1940 as there were small running changes. Being a rather small low compression side valve engine it wasn't too hard to crank as long as it wasn't too cold.
#31
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My ex would tell me she'd taken my SUV in for an oil change, and then spend the money on her nails instead. This went on for 10's of thousands of miles on that vehicle, until one day I started to pull out of the driveway and the engine died. When I started looking into what the problem might be I discovered a black sludge where the oil was supposed to be. I left the SUV, still broken down, sitting in the driveway the day I made the wife my ex. Why not? The loan was in her name....
#32
Melting Slicks
Buy a quality AGM battery and never have to check the water level again. I've got AGM cells in my solar power system that are over 10 years old and working as well as the day I bought them. No water lost or added (you can't even if you wanted to).
#33
Racer
That's more than likely because most batteries on the market in the last 5 years are non serviceable and have specific instructions and markings to not open them. lol.
#34
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Receipts...
My ex would tell me she'd taken my SUV in for an oil change, and then spend the money on her nails instead. This went on for 10's of thousands of miles on that vehicle, until one day I started to pull out of the driveway and the engine died. When I started looking into what the problem might be I discovered a black sludge where the oil was supposed to be. I left the SUV, still broken down, sitting in the driveway the day I made the wife my ex. Why not? The loan was in her name....
#35
I may have missed it in an earlier post.....but i'm not sure general maintenance was ever intended to be checking the auto cable and/or the harmonic balancer (amoungest other things) which seems to be a couple of the most talked about problems.....
#36
Instructor
My biggest pet peeve are the knot-heads that love to rail about poor service at either their local dealer or repair shop when it is obvious they have never personally turned a wrench. If it is so easy why don't you do it yourself?? Another old man rant over...
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Interesting post. Back in the day (farther back than I care to really think of) my dad would buy old "junkers" to drive to work. We'd take it in the garage, pull the head and pan, pistons, etc. After that you could look through the engine and see the floor --- we put in new rings, Babbitt bearings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babbitt_(alloy) and after a few tweaks and fluids crank her up and go (hopefully, but not always). What a wonderful learning process. Of course, in rural Nebraska this was a part of life as money was scarce. I've tried to impart this to our sons and so far they continue to do much of their own work. I can't image getting into a vehicle of any sort and not knowing basically how it works------ I still do much of my own work and have my trusty Y-car service manual in my study for reference. For me, this is as much a part of owning a Corvette as taking a spirited run through the Smokies. Another great resource is this forum. I look forward to learning much more.
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Seems everyones used to an electronic device telling them what to do, seen many even lose thier sense of direction with GPS, waiting for a screen to say check oil, etc.
Couldnt afford a break down in the days of carbs, no OD and payphones.
#40
I've had 2 camaros now last me a long time already, one hit 19 years and 400k miles before I retired it and the other just hit 21 years 240K miles on it last week. My 2nd C6 is now 13 years old and still in excellent condition and on its 3rd set of tires. If you maintain it well, it will last you. I like doing all the maintenance myself, but as I get older noticing that my propensity to lie on my back wrenching and spilling toxic chemicals on me is waning...