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Old 11-12-2018, 05:36 PM
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So I posted on Facebook wanting to buy loudmouth 2 exhaust for C6 vette. Person messages me with pics, detail, everything seemed normal. So we negotiate a price (350 used) and I send money through Facebook via PayPal. My big mistake was sending friends and family accidentally. So everything seemed legit until they wouldn’t send tracking number. So yeah 5 days later I realized I had been scammed. No exhaust and no money. Go to PayPal they say go to bank. Call bank and they say go to PayPal. Do not deal with a person named Anna wright. Lesson learned here. Ugh

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Old 11-12-2018, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladensack3
Hello,
So I posted on Facebook wanting to buy loudmouth 2 exhaust for C6 vette. Person messages me with pics, detail, everything seemed normal. So we negotiate a price (350 used) and I send money through Facebook via PayPal. My big mistake was sending friends and family accidentally. So everything seemed legit until they wouldn’t send tracking number. So yeah 5 days later I realized I had been scammed. No exhaust and no money. Go to PayPal they say go to bank. Call bank and they say go to PayPal. Do not deal with a person named Anna wright. Lesson learned here. Ugh
Well, you don't need to hear this then, but for anyone else - never ever ever ever ever neverever use F&F on Paypal as a BUYER of good or services.

Sellers don't mind as it saves the 2.91% comm. When a buyer sends F&F, his/her address doesn't show (yours in this case) and there is no provision for a tracking # in the PP system. Because PP set this up as a convenience for F&F, not to trade goods/services.

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Exactly I learned this the hard way. Not sure if the bank will be able to do anything about this or not. Guess we will see
Old 11-12-2018, 05:52 PM
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There is no protection on FB like there is on Ebay, I only deal local people with FB marketplace. I see it and pay cash and move on. Same way with selling. Local only with cash.
I hate scammers. They make it bad for everyone. FB marketplace is fairly new and they have a long way to put proper security measures in place. Hate that happened to you, but too many mistakes were made in this transaction.
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Exactly I learned this the hard way. Not sure if the bank will be able to do anything about this or not. Guess we will see
Paypal won't help you BC you used their convenience service. They made no commission on the transaction and that puts you in a bad place. If you used a CC you MIGHT have some help, but if you did it to fund PP for a F&F, no. Any other bank transaction like a check or cashier's check used to fund PP....no.....

If it's any consolation - you're not the first, or the last to take a loss lesson. They make us smarter the next time

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Old 11-12-2018, 06:26 PM
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Sucks that had to happen to you. So many scam artists out there today it's hard to know who to trust. Hope you get your money back.
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Thanks everyone!
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Tough lesson learned here, never use the friends & family option as a buyer unless you personally know the seller
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I found out the hard way using PayPay through Facebook Payments even though I used “pay for goods or services” & not “friends & family”. What PayPal said is that Facebook Payments is the actual seller who then transfers the payment to the selling individual so you have to try to get your money back from Facebook Payments - which is impossible.

I’m currently working with the department of consumer affairs in TN to try to get my $ back because the individual who ripped me off (Dave Hale, Madvette Motorsports) runs his business out of TN. So far he has ignored contact from the TN Attorney General’s Office & Consumer Affairs.
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I tend to buy on eBay. Bought a lot of stuff, never had a problem..
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I'm about to make a $1600.00 purchase through PayPal. I understand not using F&F, but what other precautions are there? i intend to use a CC to fund the PP transaction. Is that sufficient for me to take action if it goes sideways?
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I'm about to make a $1600.00 purchase through PayPal. I understand not using F&F, but what other precautions are there? i intend to use a CC to fund the PP transaction. Is that sufficient for me to take action if it goes sideways?
As long as you aren’t using the friends and family, you’re good. PayPal will refund your money if it goes south. They are actually great to work with. It takes a few weeks but you’ll get your money back.
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I'm about to make a $1600.00 purchase through PayPal. I understand not using F&F, but what other precautions are there? i intend to use a CC to fund the PP transaction. Is that sufficient for me to take action if it goes sideways?
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mp...y-and-security

It's better to read about this directly from PayPal than listen to he said, she said.
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Originally Posted by Aerovette
I'm about to make a $1600.00 purchase through PayPal. I understand not using F&F, but what other precautions are there? i intend to use a CC to fund the PP transaction. Is that sufficient for me to take action if it goes sideways?
I would be comfortable with it. CC and Goods and Services. If you have issues with the item or services, make sure you document (written) and photo (such as a defect). Make sure you consider a paper trail from the moment shipment arrives. For example, if you receive a package and the package is damaged, photograph that so you can create a time related case if needed.

I'm making a big deal out of this, but 98% of the time transactions are fine. 2% of the time they go haywire and the seller disputes your claim. PP will act as arbitrator, but the stronger argument wins.
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FB & PP are nothing more than modern day pic-pockets. Your one of hundreds every day whom are fleeced every hour of the day. On the good side, you’ve shared with others this issue and they can avoid the same... these two organizations are plague on modern society.
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Originally Posted by BlindSpot
Paypal won't help you BC you used their convenience service. They made no commission on the transaction and that puts you in a bad place. If you used a CC you MIGHT have some help, but if you did it to fund PP for a F&F, no. Any other bank transaction like a check or cashier's check used to fund PP....no.....

If it's any consolation - you're not the first, or the last to take a loss lesson. They make us smarter the next time
They do make their money though as when you send it F&F the sender pays the fee not the recipient.
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Originally Posted by mcandrew67
They do make their money though as when you send it F&F the sender pays the fee not the recipient.
Not true. If you have a completey linked PP account there is no fee on either side on a FF.

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Not true. If you have a completey linked PP account there is no fee on either side on a FF.
yeah if someone is stupid enough to link their bank account to their paypal then yes no fee, but who does that?
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yeah if someone is stupid enough to link their bank account to their paypal then yes no fee, but who does that?
So you are standing on the outside looking in at Paypal and you are the expert? I’ve been using Paypal since 2002. I use it all the time both in my consulting business and in my hobbies. It is a very safe way to buy/sell when you cannot be face to face with the other party.

Stupid has different meanings depending what side iof the fence you are on.
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So you are standing on the outside looking in at Paypal and you are the expert? I’ve been using Paypal since 2002. I use it all the time both in my consulting business and in my hobbies. It is a very safe way to buy/sell when you cannot be face to face with the other party.

Stupid has different meanings depending what side iof the fence you are on.
I have used it forever as well, and it opens you up to someone draining your bank, just because it hasn't happened to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The more gates you have open to your money, the more vulnerable it is. You are free to do as you wish, just saying is all.

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