My 2008 vette was broken into today???
02-02-2019, 01:10 AM
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Yes, it's a thing. I asked a tech friend once if this was true, and he said yes.
https://jalopnik.com/heres-a-friendl...key-1828259034
But it's curious that if they used a signal booster to get into the car, that they didn't take the car, too.
https://jalopnik.com/heres-a-friendl...key-1828259034
But it's curious that if they used a signal booster to get into the car, that they didn't take the car, too.
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02-02-2019, 01:33 AM
#42
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OK guys I called the city PD today to report it and a detective from the car theft department is going to come out and I know of this man since I worked for the city 14 years and he said he would try one of those "Things" that they recovered from a gang member......Car theft is big business down here because we are very close to the border.
02-02-2019, 01:56 AM
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OK guys I called the city PD today to report it and a detective from the car theft department is going to come out and I know of this man since I worked for the city 14 years and he said he would try one of those "Things" that they recovered from a gang member......Car theft is big business down here because we are very close to the border.
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02-02-2019, 07:05 AM
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Live in a quiet, upper middle class neighborhood in Long Island, the Third Pct. is located in our Village. We've had a rash of illegal entries around here lately, the bad guys walk down the street yanking on door handles, you'd be surprised how many people leave their car doors open. Bad guy doesn't have to break anything, just open the door and help himself. I'd be more pissed about the gun being gone, another illegal gun on the street and in the wrong hands. Around here you'd lose your license for that, right in the paperwork it says you can't leave your gun unattended ANYWHERE when out in public. Drives my wife crazy but mine stays with me everywhere I go.
02-02-2019, 10:01 AM
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Sorry about the incident, there's always some asshat looking for easy $$..My car doesn't recognize the key fob once it's 20' away, I never leave my cell phone in the car, even in the garage,
02-02-2019, 10:53 AM
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Is it possible to go in through the open hatch and crawl over the seats? I know I probably couldn't do it, but how about some agile kid? I read on someone's post that they crawled over the seats to get into the back because they didn't know about the emergency door release beside the seats. If your hatch got butt-dialed, maybe that could explain it?
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02-02-2019, 01:35 PM
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Is it possible to go in through the open hatch and crawl over the seats? I know I probably couldn't do it, but how about some agile kid? I read on someone's post that they crawled over the seats to get into the back because they didn't know about the emergency door release beside the seats. If your hatch got butt-dialed, maybe that could explain it?
02-02-2019, 01:51 PM
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Live in a quiet, upper middle class neighborhood in Long Island, the Third Pct. is located in our Village. We've had a rash of illegal entries around here lately, the bad guys walk down the street yanking on door handles, you'd be surprised how many people leave their car doors open. Bad guy doesn't have to break anything, just open the door and help himself. I'd be more pissed about the gun being gone, another illegal gun on the street and in the wrong hands. Around here you'd lose your license for that, right in the paperwork it says you can't leave your gun unattended ANYWHERE when out in public. Drives my wife crazy but mine stays with me everywhere I go.
02-02-2019, 02:13 PM
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I wonder if seeing the cell phone in the car is what made them break in? My daughter and I have gone around and around about leaving her phone in the car. Think she got the message last week when her friend's new Accord had a busted passenger window so they could take the........cell phone.
02-02-2019, 02:43 PM
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Is it possible to go in through the open hatch and crawl over the seats? I know I probably couldn't do it, but how about some agile kid? I read on someone's post that they crawled over the seats to get into the back because they didn't know about the emergency door release beside the seats. If your hatch got butt-dialed, maybe that could explain it?
In 2008, I noticed several times that my hatch was opened by accidentally bumping the fob in my pocket against a desk or whatever. Fobs can easily transmit 200+ feet when actively pressing a button, even from inside a building, regardless of how you may have the personal settings for passive entry and locking. Pressing the panic button is how some people find their car in large parking lots. So what I did to eliminate that future possibility, was to open the fob and place a piece of cellophane tape over the button contacts, thereby eliminating the problem.
In the passive mode, a fob must be within about 3' of the relay of the door latch, hatch button, or starter button. If the battery is weak, you may need to position the fob real close to the individual antenna for that function.
About 2 years ago, when my friend wrecked his car and we towed it to my place on a U-haul trailer and he kept the fob. The next day I needed to get in to clean out some of his stuff. I pried open the passenger window enough to use a long metal rod to push the driver side window button down. While the trailer fenders prevented opening the doors, I reached in to hit the hatch button. After clearing out the hatch area and moving the driver's seat forward and leaning the back to the steering wheel, I had room enough to crawl through the hatch to the front passenger seat. I was 75 years old at the time, so a teenager could do that a lot easier.
If your car is locked, that is a method to gain interior access without opening a door that would set off an alarm. Of course, if you accidentally hit the hatch button while in your home, thieves don't need to open windows or doors to steal everything inside. If they wore gloves, there won't even be fingerprint evidence.
Protect yourself by deactivating the active fob buttons.
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02-02-2019, 04:25 PM
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hmm this wasn’t the case for me.
The other day I popped my hatch (not all the way open), got out of the car and closed the door. My car auto-alarmed like it always does (honked once). I walked inside and dropped my key in my room (200+ feet away through about 5 walls).
I walked back outside, realized I left my jacked on the front seat. I opened the hatch (previously unlatched), and pulled the manual door opener in the back. No alarm sounded.
The other day I popped my hatch (not all the way open), got out of the car and closed the door. My car auto-alarmed like it always does (honked once). I walked inside and dropped my key in my room (200+ feet away through about 5 walls).
I walked back outside, realized I left my jacked on the front seat. I opened the hatch (previously unlatched), and pulled the manual door opener in the back. No alarm sounded.
02-02-2019, 11:08 PM
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I wonder if seeing the cell phone in the car is what made them break in? My daughter and I have gone around and around about leaving her phone in the car. Think she got the message last week when her friend's new Accord had a busted passenger window so they could take the........cell phone.
02-02-2019, 11:21 PM
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hmm this wasn’t the case for me.
The other day I popped my hatch (not all the way open), got out of the car and closed the door. My car auto-alarmed like it always does (honked once). I walked inside and dropped my key in my room (200+ feet away through about 5 walls).
I walked back outside, realized I left my jacked on the front seat. I opened the hatch (previously unlatched), and pulled the manual door opener in the back. No alarm sounded.
hmm this wasn’t the case for me.
The other day I popped my hatch (not all the way open), got out of the car and closed the door. My car auto-alarmed like it always does (honked once). I walked inside and dropped my key in my room (200+ feet away through about 5 walls).
I walked back outside, realized I left my jacked on the front seat. I opened the hatch (previously unlatched), and pulled the manual door opener in the back. No alarm sounded.
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02-02-2019, 11:35 PM
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In 2008, I noticed several times that my hatch was opened by accidentally bumping the fob in my pocket against a desk or whatever. Fobs can easily transmit 200+ feet when actively pressing a button, even from inside a building, regardless of how you may have the personal settings for passive entry and locking. Pressing the panic button is how some people find their car in large parking lots. So what I did to eliminate that future possibility, was to open the fob and place a piece of cellophane tape over the button contacts, thereby eliminating the problem.
In the passive mode, a fob must be within about 3' of the relay of the door latch, hatch button, or starter button. If the battery is weak, you may need to position the fob real close to the individual antenna for that function.
About 2 years ago, when my friend wrecked his car and we towed it to my place on a U-haul trailer and he kept the fob. The next day I needed to get in to clean out some of his stuff. I pried open the passenger window enough to use a long metal rod to push the driver side window button down. While the trailer fenders prevented opening the doors, I reached in to hit the hatch button. After clearing out the hatch area and moving the driver's seat forward and leaning the back to the steering wheel, I had room enough to crawl through the hatch to the front passenger seat. I was 75 years old at the time, so a teenager could do that a lot easier.
If your car is locked, that is a method to gain interior access without opening a door that would set off an alarm. Of course, if you accidentally hit the hatch button while in your home, thieves don't need to open windows or doors to steal everything inside. If they wore gloves, there won't even be fingerprint evidence.
Protect yourself by deactivating the active fob buttons.
02-03-2019, 12:08 AM
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I've been watching this thread for a bit, and thought I would finally chime in.
Whatever happened was not a "clone" or "amplifier" situation. Our fobs don't work in the same way as any of the youtube events of cars being hacked/stolen.
Understanding exactly how our fobs work is key. (haha-punny). When a button on the car is pressed, then the car sends a weak signal out, perhaps a few feet , and if a recognized fob is there, it wii send out an even weaker signal to the door (B pillar antenna) that was pressed, and will let the door open, or not. Either way, a recognized fob must be present within a few feet to open.
Even to get to this point for a hack job of any sort, there have to be two "amplifiers." One near the car (easy), and one near the recognized fob ( much harder, unless you store your fobs on an outside wall, and the thieves know exactly where to set up their hypothetical equipment). Seems a lot of work and investment to steal a few hundred bucks of things. If the thieves have the hardware, why wouldn't they nick the car instead of just a a few "baubles"?
The OP didn't make it sound like any noise happened, so I'm inclined to believe that the car never locked again (which would have resulted in a horn honk), and that leaves the butt dial hatch pop scenario on my list of most likely what happened.
Whatever happened was not a "clone" or "amplifier" situation. Our fobs don't work in the same way as any of the youtube events of cars being hacked/stolen.
Understanding exactly how our fobs work is key. (haha-punny). When a button on the car is pressed, then the car sends a weak signal out, perhaps a few feet , and if a recognized fob is there, it wii send out an even weaker signal to the door (B pillar antenna) that was pressed, and will let the door open, or not. Either way, a recognized fob must be present within a few feet to open.
Even to get to this point for a hack job of any sort, there have to be two "amplifiers." One near the car (easy), and one near the recognized fob ( much harder, unless you store your fobs on an outside wall, and the thieves know exactly where to set up their hypothetical equipment). Seems a lot of work and investment to steal a few hundred bucks of things. If the thieves have the hardware, why wouldn't they nick the car instead of just a a few "baubles"?
The OP didn't make it sound like any noise happened, so I'm inclined to believe that the car never locked again (which would have resulted in a horn honk), and that leaves the butt dial hatch pop scenario on my list of most likely what happened.
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02-03-2019, 12:42 AM
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LOL, FINALLY, after 57 posts, one of the "Fobsperts" chimes in and throws cold water on the subject. I've read threads/posts here numerous times about why the fobs can't really be scanned when you walk up to the car, etc. etc. Those threads usually pop up when somebody makes a panic post about some gadget "out there" that will do this and YOUR Corvette is the next one to get stolen.
But urban legends die hard.
What took you so long, Mrs. Ow?
But urban legends die hard.
What took you so long, Mrs. Ow?
02-03-2019, 04:17 AM
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Just for a little more piece of mind, Harbor freight sells a "driveway sensor" that you could leave inside the car and would alert to the receiver inside your house when it detects motion. They have a range of about 400 feet and only cost about 15 bucks. I used to work in Detroit and they saved me more than once. Just the sight of the transmitter on the dash will probably help.
