thinking of picking up a c6...
02-12-2019, 03:24 PM
#22
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Thread Starter
The Trim levels are 1LT, 2LT, 3LT & 4LT on pretty much every C6 from 06-13. I remember them doing something weird in the 2005 model year. Anyhow, I digress. You need to look up some brocures for the model year you land on. Option codes (RPOs) and included things change from model year to year.
Now I just need to look at price differential between selling my c5 and picking up a c6 vs. putting in a 4-point in my c5. I'd honestly prefer to just keep the c5, but ... just seems like everyone I talk to tells me it's a nightmare to track 'verts.
02-12-2019, 03:27 PM
#23
I think I'm zoning in on 2012, gs, 2lt (or 3lt), 6sp, black, coupe.
Now I just need to look at price differential between selling my c5 and picking up a c6 vs. putting in a 4-point in my c5. I'd honestly prefer to just keep the c5, but ... just seems like everyone I talk to tells me it's a nightmare to track 'verts.
Now I just need to look at price differential between selling my c5 and picking up a c6 vs. putting in a 4-point in my c5. I'd honestly prefer to just keep the c5, but ... just seems like everyone I talk to tells me it's a nightmare to track 'verts.
02-12-2019, 08:10 PM
#24
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Thread Starter
good to know.. really just a question of whether I want to spend money on a 'vert that I probably won't be able to use beyond hpde/track day, or just plunk down the cash now and get a coupe.
02-12-2019, 09:05 PM
#25
Race Director
I wouldnt be so sure. Theres a big difference between a 4lt centennial and a 1lt base car. My 6 speed 4lt Centennial wouldnt be sold for less than 47k.
02-13-2019, 09:34 AM
#26
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Thread Starter
it's been awhile since I had to troll used car sites, what are the best resources for picking up a c6? the forum, autotrader, cars.com still the best?
02-13-2019, 06:01 PM
#28
Race Director
I think I'm zoning in on 2012, gs, 2lt (or 3lt), 6sp, black, coupe.
Now I just need to look at price differential between selling my c5 and picking up a c6 vs. putting in a 4-point in my c5. I'd honestly prefer to just keep the c5, but ... just seems like everyone I talk to tells me it's a nightmare to track 'verts.
Now I just need to look at price differential between selling my c5 and picking up a c6 vs. putting in a 4-point in my c5. I'd honestly prefer to just keep the c5, but ... just seems like everyone I talk to tells me it's a nightmare to track 'verts.
02-13-2019, 06:15 PM
#29
Melting Slicks
if i'm trackin' mostly, i'd be getting a C5Z instead of C6 because I could do a hell of a lot with the cost savings put into the C5Z.
02-13-2019, 07:20 PM
#30
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Thread Starter
roll bar for my c5 vert is still something I'm considering, at least for HPDE/non-competitive stuff.
Last edited by JMG2; 02-13-2019 at 07:21 PM.
02-13-2019, 08:17 PM
#31
Melting Slicks
So, at least you know what that $30K+ (cost of a 12-13 GS) will get in you a C5Z and how much more of a track car you can make it? Will the GS handle better than the modded C5Z? On the street it will.
02-13-2019, 08:42 PM
#32
Racer
Not questioning your decision, just curious. You have a C5 Vert now - do you feel the C6 is THAT different to substantiate the cost to upgrade? Is your C5 old or troublesome and just looking to go up one generation or is there other reasons? Personally I upgraded from an 02 C5 Vert to a 2014 C7 Z51 and it's a night and day difference. I then bought my fiance a C6 for her birthday, and although the C6 is an awesome car - Im not totally sold if its a "major" upgrade when compared to the C5... Just sharing my experiences and looking to hear why you want to upgrade...
Also C7 > C6... depends on your budget and taste
02-13-2019, 10:03 PM
#33
Melting Slicks
Lol at people arguing interior and exteriors between gens, when the OP stated in the second sentence that the car would be "mostly for clubracing".
02-14-2019, 08:12 AM
#34
He also said he was interested in modern creature comforts and he's already in a c5. The C6 GS is a better starting point anyhow; more production units (strong aftermarket), newer, probably lower mileage / less prone to issues.
02-14-2019, 08:17 AM
#35
It's worth noting a black 2012 is a centennial editions. Itll be either 3lt ot 4lt, and they tend to go for a few thousand over what a similar car that isnt a centennial would. You didnt say how many miles or price, but it's worth noting that these cars will be outliers in price on the high side.
Last edited by SlothX311; 02-14-2019 at 08:18 AM.
02-14-2019, 08:32 AM
#36
Full disclosure, this is my first RWD car, its also my most powerful car I've ever owned. The only negative mark I give this car is the untamed feeling it has when driven hard. Now... some will tell you this is part of mastering the craft. Buddy of mine runs a 99 ACR and he's one of the diehard "analog cars only" guys. I get the appeal of taking something super intimidating and making it seam easy with time and experience. I guess what I'm saying is, although its about the best bang for the buck HPDE car you can buy, there is a reason it's so cheap. From the factory the steering feel is light and theres this floating feeling that leaves more to be desired from the rear suspension. I'm sure this stuff can be teased out with aftermarket parts, but I guess don't go into it expecting a magic pill. I intend to log some serious track hours and really get frustrated by it before changing anything though. Otherwise you'll have no baseline for these changes.
Last edited by SlothX311; 02-14-2019 at 08:32 AM.
02-14-2019, 08:57 AM
#37
Race Director
$47k?! What with like 5000 miles on the odo? While I recognize its significance, theres no getting around the fact that for 2012 alone there were more than 1500 centennials made. Also if the guy is wanting to track it, I'd assume he's not looking to buy someone's garage queen.
But let's break it down more, the 1500 number is for GS in general, of you're road racing you want the dry sump which means coupe only. Now we are down to 1000 units. But now it needs a stick, and while we dont have exact numbers we know that it was a 65% take rate overall (the take rate is likely lower as the price goes up. Ut we will ignore that), so we have a highside guess of 350 units. If you then talk Bout adding any option - 4lt, dual roofs, we are talking low double digits produced.
The reality is, my car is irreplaceable. Another 4lt stick ce gs with low miles likely just isnt out there.
But I agree That said, I agree that it isnt a good car to buy if you're planning to track it. They're more expensive and the metallic paint isnt ae easy to touch up. If it's a pure track only (or largely) car, the c5z is the better choice because it's a lot cheaper and the tires and other running costs are a lot cheaper. If it's a toy car that will maybe see the track once or twice, that's a different story. But my rule on track cars is nothing you're not comfortable with writing off as a total loss. Insurance doesnt cover the track, and track insurance is expensive.
02-14-2019, 09:19 AM
#38
13k miles, but my car isnt fir sale anyways. 1500 isnt exactly a lot, (and dont forget, they ONLY made them in 2012) they made 6 times that many Murcoelagos, and made nearly that many Murcielagos in a single year. Many "rare" cars sold WAY more units than this, take the 997 GTS (very similar overall to the Centennial package), they sold over 6000 of those and command a hefty premium now.
But let's break it down more, the 1500 number is for GS in general, of you're road racing you want the dry sump which means coupe only. Now we are down to 1000 units. But now it needs a stick, and while we dont have exact numbers we know that it was a 65% take rate overall (the take rate is likely lower as the price goes up. Ut we will ignore that), so we have a highside guess of 350 units. If you then talk Bout adding any option - 4lt, dual roofs, we are talking low double digits produced.
The reality is, my car is irreplaceable. Another 4lt stick ce gs with low miles likely just isnt out there.
But let's break it down more, the 1500 number is for GS in general, of you're road racing you want the dry sump which means coupe only. Now we are down to 1000 units. But now it needs a stick, and while we dont have exact numbers we know that it was a 65% take rate overall (the take rate is likely lower as the price goes up. Ut we will ignore that), so we have a highside guess of 350 units. If you then talk Bout adding any option - 4lt, dual roofs, we are talking low double digits produced.
The reality is, my car is irreplaceable. Another 4lt stick ce gs with low miles likely just isnt out there.
Also. Go out and drive your car! haha
If it's a pure track only (or largely) car, the c5z is the better choice because it's a lot cheaper and the tires and other running costs are a lot cheaper. If it's a toy car that will maybe see the track once or twice, that's a different story. But my rule on track cars is nothing you're not comfortable with writing off as a total loss. Insurance doesnt cover the track, and track insurance is expensive.
Last edited by SlothX311; 02-14-2019 at 09:19 AM.
02-14-2019, 11:17 AM
#39
Race Director
I think doubling the price of a track day is unreasonable lol. I bought a c4 for cheap instead. If I wreck it on track, no big deal.
02-14-2019, 11:45 AM
#40
Drifting
