Too Much Horsepower, Can It Be True
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Burning Brakes
I built and land speed raced a turbo charged Hayabusa 500lb motorcycle, the rear tire was still slightly spinning at 150Mph on the way to 200mph.
Not for the faint of heart!
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There's never enough until you can't handle it.
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So I take my hat off to you Douglas, you are one crazy *** MF'er
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While I respect you opinion, I am just wondering do you track your car on a regular basis. If not just why is that kind of HP need for a street car? Just so you know, I have been around all types of cars and different HP rating since the early 60's. We raced a C/SA in NHRD in the mid 60's and it was a national record holder. I have had my share of muscle cars and my first Vette was a '66 BB 427/425 that I bought in '68. My current Vette is an '07 with ARH hi-flow cats, CAI and a tune so I an over the base HP rating of 400 (410).
#31
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Obviously the traction control systems nowdays can neuter this sort of power. A modern PCM coukd just limit the boost in the car so it's not putting out more than 400hp pr si in most situations, and use a drive mode to allow max hp for bragging rights. That's what the demographic here wants, bragging rights, they wont actually drive the cars. You dont ser ZR1s with miles on them, or any of the high end exotics. People buy them to brag about, not drive.
And can we talk about how stupid it is that GM even thinks it can compete with Lambo pr Ferrari? It's like theyve done zero brand research, people dont buy those cars because of a value, they buy them because of a name. And Corvette does not ring with those people. It's as stupid as of BMW said the next M3 was going to be midengine and it would compete with Zonda. Or of Ford said they were gonna combine a pair of the EcoBoost v6s into a v12 and compete with Bentley W12s. People dont buy this stuff on stats... they buy it DESPITE the stats because at the end of the day it's still whatever exotic they wanted, and not a more mundane car like ours.
#32
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I think the "too much power" story is just selling sizzle. Mystique. Its the Lambada, forbidden! You must have one! Its just tooo fast!My base 10 c6 is plenty fast. Lets say it does 0-60 in 4 seconds. So a cammed billy boat exhaustheaders thing buys what, .5 seconds? Some may care but I'm not one of them. You can beat me by a second for twice the horsepower and twice the money?? Wow! I feel so left out...but to each his own. I'll just have to deal with my shame.
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And can we talk about how stupid it is that GM even thinks it can compete with Lambo pr Ferrari? It's like theyve done zero brand research, people dont buy those cars because of a value, they buy them because of a name. And Corvette does not ring with those people.
That maybe mostly true, but I know a couple that she drives a white 458 Spider he drives an Orange Lambo and they both drive a C7 Z06. So the Corvette does appeal to the Ferrari and Lambo people. Maybe not a large group, but to car people.
That maybe mostly true, but I know a couple that she drives a white 458 Spider he drives an Orange Lambo and they both drive a C7 Z06. So the Corvette does appeal to the Ferrari and Lambo people. Maybe not a large group, but to car people.
#34
AMG had Merc Sl's making more than 1K hp close to a decade ago, and the lessen learned, when you have to use TM that badly to keep it from roasting the tires/make is drivable, then you wasting your time with that much power to the suspension. So instead of just offering something with so much power they could not keep stuck to the ground, they pulled the power back down to make the HP match what the car was capable in handing instead.
So here is the glitch with most High HP muscle cars, and they they may have this type of horsepower, the motor is being hobbled by TM to make is drive-able and save the drive line isntead.
So C8 at over 1K, going to take a hell of lot more than just mid engine to allow the car to use that much HP with the handing to go with it, and would break the bank with the electronics aerodynamics/further designing to put it all to use with a matched handling package.
Trust is, can't want for the C8 to come out, and it put up against the current crop of super cars and the tech they are running to make HP usable/ match the handling of the car. The way I see it, c8 may have a lot of horsepower to keep up with the current crop of muscle cars, but the handling package is not going to be there when compared to the current crop of super sports cars instead. So down a drag strip, may put in some decent numbers, but on the road course, going to be major glitches instead (like getting around the Nurburgring under 8 mins, which the current 911 gt3 did already).
So yes, do see that C8 have some upgraded handling and increased power, but for the price they have to make and sell the cars in the market enough buying them, will never handle in the class of the super cars isntead. So isntead, the car will be built and priced as the value market sports car it is in that market value place, which keep the vet at least a decade behind in the current tech and materials of current crop of super cars instead.
And just a FYI, but if you get the car to handle correctly, you don't need a ton of extra HP isntead. The M600's, 911's. R8's have been proven this for years around road course tracks; with a match suspension/HP packages.
So here is the glitch with most High HP muscle cars, and they they may have this type of horsepower, the motor is being hobbled by TM to make is drive-able and save the drive line isntead.
So C8 at over 1K, going to take a hell of lot more than just mid engine to allow the car to use that much HP with the handing to go with it, and would break the bank with the electronics aerodynamics/further designing to put it all to use with a matched handling package.
Trust is, can't want for the C8 to come out, and it put up against the current crop of super cars and the tech they are running to make HP usable/ match the handling of the car. The way I see it, c8 may have a lot of horsepower to keep up with the current crop of muscle cars, but the handling package is not going to be there when compared to the current crop of super sports cars instead. So down a drag strip, may put in some decent numbers, but on the road course, going to be major glitches instead (like getting around the Nurburgring under 8 mins, which the current 911 gt3 did already).
So yes, do see that C8 have some upgraded handling and increased power, but for the price they have to make and sell the cars in the market enough buying them, will never handle in the class of the super cars isntead. So isntead, the car will be built and priced as the value market sports car it is in that market value place, which keep the vet at least a decade behind in the current tech and materials of current crop of super cars instead.
And just a FYI, but if you get the car to handle correctly, you don't need a ton of extra HP isntead. The M600's, 911's. R8's have been proven this for years around road course tracks; with a match suspension/HP packages.
Last edited by Dano523; 03-24-2019 at 06:40 PM.