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Old 04-03-2019, 11:15 AM
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Hey Guys,

Im cleaning my wife's C6 after being under cover for winter storage. The car is truly in mint condition in terms of the paint, but when I rub my hand over it the front fenders (just past the head lamps), the paint doesnt feel 100% smooth... I clayed the car before going into storage, and I polished it yesterday with Meguiar's M205...but it still isnt 100% smooth...

Do you think I should clay that area again, polish that area again, both or something else?

Im looking for the paint / clear to "feel" perfectly smooth.

As you can see, the car is in very clean condition and has a beautiful shine:

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Old 04-03-2019, 11:23 AM
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It looks fantastic just as it sits. If it ain't broke don't fix it....get out and drive it !!....(if your wife will let you that is).....
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Old 04-03-2019, 11:34 AM
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Did you try the plastic baggie test?

The Plastic Baggie Test: If you put your hand in a sandwich bag (or on top of a piece of cellophane) and lightly glide your hand across the surface, you’ll be able to feel every last imperfection. You’ll feel bumps not visible to the human eye, and these are, in fact, telling you it’s time to clay. The test should take any longer than five minutes and can be done during the clay process to make sure no areas were missed.
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I suspect you didn't get everything out with 205, you might need to step up to 105. Good tip about the plastic baggie test as well.
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Old 04-03-2019, 01:31 PM
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If you clayed it first, did you do the baggy test on each section prior to and after the clay? This is the best way to make sure the paint is smooth and ready for polish. Polish will not remove embedded particles. It with remove fine scratches and swirls and bring a shine back to the paint. Did you polish it by hand or machine. Polishing by hand will never give you the results that you get with a machine. You should never proceed from one stage in a detail until you are complete satisfied with the step you just completed.

As for your problem, it could be a few things. One you didn't clay that area enough to get tit smooth, second it could be there is a small amount of the polish still on the surface. Did you wax the car after polishing it?
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Old 04-03-2019, 02:10 PM
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Nobody does clay bar anymore, get some Nanoskin!! Its 100 times better!!
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Do yourself a favor and go to the Autogek forum and ask/research there....

https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/

check out the detailing 101 sub forum:

https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ailing-101-a/?

I spend a lot of time there searching threads for information. Our cars can be difficult because of the hard paint. The key is doing the baggie test and judging the condition of the paint and then picking the right product AND pad with a DA polisher.

I like Meg 105/205 or Menzerna 400/3500 and then I finish with a carnuba was since I don't mind waxing more often.

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So I went back over the area with the clay bar and that did the trick - smooth as a baby's behind. I followed up with a M205 polish, then some Meguiars Carnauba Wax. I use a DA Buffer for all polishing and waxing...but clay by hand...

I've never heard of this Nanoskin...which of these should I get? I have a 6" DA Buffer:

https://www.amazon.com/JIANFA-Grade-Polisher-Detailing-Novel/dp/B07D9CW754?ref_=Oct_RAsinC_Ajax_15707091_0&pf_rd_r=69PWQG50V4CE6K5DJ77P&pf_rd_p=9be297d4-ca47-5d58-951a-485e61a69d98&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=15707091&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER https://www.amazon.com/JIANFA-Grade-Polisher-Detailing-Novel/dp/B07D9CW754?ref_=Oct_RAsinC_Ajax_15707091_0&pf_rd_r=69PWQG50V4CE6K5DJ77P&pf_rd_p=9be297d4-ca47-5d58-951a-485e61a69d98&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=15707091&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

https://www.amazon.com/GCGZ-Grade-Polisher-Detailing-1-Pack/dp/B07H78SJN9?ref_=Oct_RAsinC_Ajax_15707091_1&pf_rd_r=69PWQG50V4CE6K5DJ77P&pf_rd_p=9be297d4-ca47-5d58-951a-485e61a69d98&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=15707091&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER https://www.amazon.com/GCGZ-Grade-Polisher-Detailing-1-Pack/dp/B07H78SJN9?ref_=Oct_RAsinC_Ajax_15707091_1&pf_rd_r=69PWQG50V4CE6K5DJ77P&pf_rd_p=9be297d4-ca47-5d58-951a-485e61a69d98&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=15707091&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

https://www.amazon.com/Nanoskin-AS-006-AutoScrub-Grade-Polisher/dp/B0090IRKUG/ref=pd_sbs_263_2/133-7348170-4770400?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0090IRKUG&pd_rd_r=fc97ae37-5642-11e9-8ef0-0b4f280728eb&pd_rd_w=vMG5s&pd_rd_wg=fVQed&pf_rd_p=588939de-d3f8-42f1-a3d8-d556eae5797d&pf_rd_r=QTD1Y083DKV81Q22ZZ9F&psc=1&refRID=QTD1Y083DKV81Q22ZZ9F https://www.amazon.com/Nanoskin-AS-006-AutoScrub-Grade-Polisher/dp/B0090IRKUG/ref=pd_sbs_263_2/133-7348170-4770400?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0090IRKUG&pd_rd_r=fc97ae37-5642-11e9-8ef0-0b4f280728eb&pd_rd_w=vMG5s&pd_rd_wg=fVQed&pf_rd_p=588939de-d3f8-42f1-a3d8-d556eae5797d&pf_rd_r=QTD1Y083DKV81Q22ZZ9F&psc=1&refRID=QTD1Y083DKV81Q22ZZ9F

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Nanoskin essentially works just like a clay bar. This is similar to the one I have:
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Now get some ceramic coating. I did mine after a clay bar and washing is now maybe once every 2 or 3 weeks.....
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I'm old school, I used a clay bar on my wife's Brand New Outlander and she could not believe it. Smooth as ice.
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Henry ford poured alcohol on a fender and set it on fire. Perhaps you should try that...
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Use a clay bar. I have went through the clay towels/mitts/blocks and they cannot do the bar's job. Top everything off with a Ceramic Coating. Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light or Kamikaze.
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Originally Posted by Innovate View Post
Use a clay bar. I have went through the clay towels/mitts/blocks and they cannot do the bar's job. Top everything off with a Ceramic Coating. Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light or Kamikaze.
Great answer. In my shop I tried many non-clay products and they were OK, but not great. In some cases did absolutely nothing, but enough of that>
I am with Innovate - Carnuba;s are dead, and ceramics are the only way to go. In my shop, and never used Carnuba;s, I was a Zaino user from day I opened, I was even phasing that out. I could get a bottle of Feynlab Ceramic Lite, which is a very high quality ceramic and gave the customer a whole lot more value, as it was good for a couple of years, longer if it is not a daily driver with just two coats.
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Originally Posted by stingray71 View Post
Nanoskin essentially works just like a clay bar. This is similar to the one I have:
https://www.amazon.com/Nanoskin-AS-0...web_7866480011

That's the one I use.
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Originally Posted by Grzldvt1 View Post
Great answer. In my shop I tried many non-clay products and they were OK, but not great. In some cases did absolutely nothing, but enough of that>
I am with Innovate - Carnuba;s are dead, and ceramics are the only way to go. In my shop, and never used Carnuba;s, I was a Zaino user from day I opened, I was even phasing that out. I could get a bottle of Feynlab Ceramic Lite, which is a very high quality ceramic and gave the customer a whole lot more value, as it was good for a couple of years, longer if it is not a daily driver with just two coats.
I am now to the point where my shop basically only does correction/coatings. I started with Optimum Car Wax but Ceramic is the way to go now and into the future. Now I do soley IGL products and maybe something different customer wants it (Consumer Coatings if the customer wants).
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I am now to the point where my shop basically only does correction/coatings. I started with Optimum Car Wax but Ceramic is the way to go now and into the future. Now I do soley IGL products and maybe something different customer wants it (Consumer Coatings if the customer wants).
You should take a look at Feynlabs, one of the best ceramic products I have used. The advanced products are a bit more difficult,but the results are superior to anything I have tried and I have tried almost every decent name brand on the planet.
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You should take a look at Feynlabs, one of the best ceramic products I have used. The advanced products are a bit more difficult,but the results are superior to anything I have tried and I have tried almost every decent name brand on the planet.
Replied to your PM, already checking them out! I do want to expand my coating options and grow as a business. That is the always the goal!
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