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[Z06] Faster than 3.7 sec launch to 60???

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Old 06-08-2005, 06:38 PM
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Default Faster than 3.7 sec launch to 60???

After a breif blurb regarding the SAE's new 505 HP rating on the new Z, they (Motor Trend, July 2005) had this to say:

"...And that may not be the only suprise the new ultra-vette is going to spring: We're hearing it may even better the 3.7-second 0-to-60 time that's been bandied about. Apparently, GM testers have already run some super-quick numbers."
Old 06-08-2005, 06:42 PM
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Sorry Dude, I Love Vette's, but no way it makes it 3.7!! Murcielago's hit the 3.6 - 3.7 mark and its far and away a superior car. Maybe 3.8/3.9 at best.
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The Z51 consistantly pulls 4.1's. 25% more HP, 21% more torque, and 130lbs lighter... I gotta believe it can post 3.7.
Old 06-08-2005, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Trance Guru
Sorry Dude, I Love Vette's, but no way it makes it 3.7!! Murcielago's hit the 3.6 - 3.7 mark and its far and away a superior car. Maybe 3.8/3.9 at best.
Your logic for doubting doesn't make any sense. A supeior car or not, the Murcielago 0 ~ 60 times has been bested by many, why would it be such a stretch that the new Z can better it too. This will not necessarily mean the vette is better or even faster. 0 ~ 60 mph times hinges much on the set up of the car, like gears, traction, tires, etc.

some magazine has produced 3.9 sec for the C5Z, I wouldn't say it a stretch that the new Z with an extra 100hp and similar weight would reach 3.7 or lower.
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If those numbers (or even lower) do come in, then its a steal even if the price hits $80-90k USD. Think of how much a Lambo or Ferrari or high end Porsche costs? What a bargoon that would be....

In Toronto prices are:
Lambo Murcielago - $410K CDN plus taxes...
Ferrari 575M - $353K CDN plus taxes
Ferrari 360 Challange - $305K Cdn plus taxes
Porsche 911 Turbo - $183K Cdn plus taxes
Dodge Viper - $127K Cdn plus taxes

PS.. My dealer (Humberview Chevy) told me that $103K Cdn is the estimate for the new Z06. And thats roughly $30K more than the C6 coupe

If you want performance like that, you have to expect to pay somewhat..

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Magazine tests and manufacturer's ratings are on street tires at stock pressure. All high powered cars do 0-60 in almost the same time because they're limited by this. A Z06 won't be any different, and is therefore very unlikely to be that quick dead stock (at least not with any repeatability).

Let air out of the tires or put slicks on, and these times would probably be easy to acheive. Even a base C6 probably wouldn't have any trouble doing 0-60 in less than 3.7 seconds with slicks on.
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Originally Posted by Trance Guru
Sorry Dude, I Love Vette's, but no way it makes it 3.7!! Murcielago's hit the 3.6 - 3.7 mark and its far and away a superior car. Maybe 3.8/3.9 at best.
I am not sure about the 3.7 blast to 60, hopefully it is true, but I wouldn't say that the Murcie is far and away a superior performer to what the Z will be capable of. They will be very close in performance with the Z being ahead in some categories(0-100) for sure.

Not trying to bash the Murcielago though, it is definitely #1 or 2 on my dream car list!
Old 06-08-2005, 08:19 PM
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0-60 times for the new Z will be measured in first gear. Since that puts the RPM around the 7k range it is not a realistic measure of the car since during a 1/4 mile run (or on any track) no one will be doing 60mph in first gear.
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I passed a lime green lambo Murcie a couple days ago - it was coming towards me, and I could see BOTH sides of it from behind the truck that was in front of it, it was THAT wide. The sound It made when I passed by was almost indescribable....A Z06 would definitely not have got my adrenaline flowing like that car, performance aside.

They are two different cars - two different leagues. Performance isnt the only thing that distinguishes cars apart...this we all know.

Would it irk me if a Z06 had 0.1 sec faster 0-60 time if I owned a Lambo? Nope. Why? Cause it's a LAMBO!!! ARE YOU KIDDING!!!! If I owned one, I'd get up every hour to check the garage to make sure I wasn't dreaming, and that it really was mine. Personally, I like them better than the Ferraris (having not driven either).

Anyway, I dont see myself ever having a Lambo....but a Z06 with an exhaust mod would be my "poor" man's version. I've already opened and funded the account specific for my Z, and am making monthly payments. Someday, it will be MINE!!!
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Originally Posted by Trance Guru
If those numbers (or even lower) do come in, then its a steal even if the price hits $80-90k USD. Think of how much a Lambo or Ferrari or high end Porsche costs? What a bargoon that would be....

In Toronto prices are:
Lambo Murcielago - $410K CDN plus taxes...
Ferrari 575M - $353K CDN plus taxes
Ferrari 360 Challange - $305K Cdn plus taxes
Porsche 911 Turbo - $183K Cdn plus taxes
Dodge Viper - $127K Cdn plus taxes

PS.. My dealer (Humberview Chevy) told me that $103K Cdn is the estimate for the new Z06. And thats roughly $30K more than the C6 coupe

If you want performance like that, you have to expect to pay somewhat..
You and your 80k+ for the z06 and that some canadian dealer knows the price. No dealer knows the price. They pull this stuff out there @ss.
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The new Z06 is surely capable of sub 4 second 0-60 runs. The 405hp Z06 ran 4 flat to 60 in a 02 Motor Trend test! In will be very dependant on the driver! I say 3.7!
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Would it irk me if a Z06 had 0.1 sec faster 0-60 time if I owned a Lambo? Nope. Why? Cause it's a LAMBO!!! ARE YOU KIDDING!!!! If I owned one, I'd get up every hour to check the garage to make sure I wasn't dreaming, and that it really was mine. Personally, I like them better than the Ferraris (having not driven either).

i'll take a poor mans lambo.
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Originally Posted by YukonCornelius
The Z51 consistantly pulls 4.1's. 25% more HP, 21% more torque, and 130lbs lighter... I gotta believe it can post 3.7.
Old 06-08-2005, 10:46 PM
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trance guru,it doesnt matter if the murcielago gets 3.7 to 60. as a matter of fact i wouldnt be surprised if the z06 is faster than the murcielago because its almost 4000 pounds and has a high drag coefficient, but yet only has 75bhp over the z, and i dont think thats enough power to make up for 1000 pounds.
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Default Lambo Schmambo...

They are gorgeous cars but they are far from lightweight. Drag cars they are not (if they were, their clutches would be more durable). Want to get a world beater 0-60 car? Buy an Ariel Atom with the 300hp supercharged Honda Civic engine. 0-60 in less than 2.9 seconds. It weighs approximately 1,000lbs...bring your helmet as it has no windshield...or bodywork to speak of!! www.bumnah.com/videos/TopGear_ArielAtom.wmv

As has been said many times, 0-60 times are an inadequate measure of a car's performance. Fun, but don't take it so seriously!!
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how bout the lingenfelter vette that does 0-60 in 1.97 sec and looks stock.
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Originally Posted by Trance Guru
PS.. My dealer (Humberview Chevy) told me that $103K Cdn is the estimate for the new Z06. And thats roughly $30K more than the C6 coupe
"My dealer told me"

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[QUOTE=My dealer (Humberview Chevy) told me that $103K Cdn is the estimate for the new Z06. And thats roughly $30K more than the C6 coupe

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That works out to about $70-73k USD, the same numbers that have been tossed around for months. He's probably guessing like everyone else outside of GM.
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[QUOTE=fgordon][QUOTE=My dealer (Humberview Chevy) told me that $103K Cdn is the estimate for the new Z06. And thats roughly $30K more than the C6 coupe



That works out to about $70-73k USD, the same numbers that have been tossed around for months. He's probably guessing like everyone else outside of GM. [/QUOTE]

I’m not laughing at the price (even though I disagree); I’m laughing at people who believe what their dealer tells them.
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It going to have a lot of power no doubt, I just wonder how its going to hook up. Already heard car mags say the car (C6) is hard to launch and on the track seems to overpower the tires with ease.


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