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Old 09-29-2005, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by webdzynes
At what point will the RWHP be insignificant because the car will be unable to hook-up? I'm hoping not, but curious, that wheel hop will play a major issue. How is that dealt with (on stock tires)?
Hop? On a transverse leaf set up?

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I had a '67 Camaro that got too way big for it's britches (built motor, M22 trans, racing clutch, solid motor mounts, etc with standard parallel single leaf set up ), so don't talk to ME about wheel hop, 'cause when it comes to feeling hop, I'm the Easter Freakin' Bunny!!!!
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by self1
Hop? On a transverse leaf set up?

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I had a '67 Camaro that got too way big for it's britches (built motor, M22 trans, racing clutch, solid motor mounts, etc with standard parallel single leaf set up ), so don't talk to ME about wheel hop, 'cause when it comes to feeling hop, I'm the Easter Freakin' Bunny!!!!
I have to plead total naivety on this - I know on the C5 and now the C6, it hops big time. Thats why I'm wondering how that wont be a problem on the Z, (presuming stock tires stay stock)...
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by webdzynes
I have to plead total naivety on this - I know on the C5 and now the C6, it hops big time. Thats why I'm wondering how that wont be a problem on the Z, (presuming stock tires stay stock)...
Sorry, I was being a bit funny -- I know NOTHING about C5/C6 as I haven't driven or owned either (yet bwahahaha) but I have suffered it immensely on my old Camaro, and it was due primarily to spring windup, so with the transverse leaf, I would be surprised to hear of it. So if there is hop, I would love to hear about when it happens, and if a lot of people have it, and if anyone has methods to control. Could be coming from 'tweaking' the traverse springs sideways, or some other mechanism entirely...
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Please post a video its starting to kill me
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Originally Posted by Michrider
Drag racing take it right to the red line - 7K. Even though you've gone a split second past max power, your bringing the next gear in close to max and that's the quickest way to get down the track. An ideal run would hit red line in every gear and red line high gear right in the traps.
That's exactly what the late, great, John Lingelfelter said at a drag racing seminar I went to a few years ago.
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That's exactly what the late, great, John Lingelfelter said at a drag racing seminar I went to a few years ago.

If you shift above power peak, you gain with torque multiplication of that gear. when you shift say from 2nd to 3rd, you need to caculate at what point (RPM) your torque x gear ratio in 2nd gear, falls below your torque x gear ratio in 3rd at the rpm that you drop to after the shift. Then that is where you will shift to max out the Torque Multiplication of the lower gear.

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Ok Guys,

Until we can get some tuning software Cold air induction or slide a new cam in this car we are at some sort of a limit.

And I mean "Some Limit". This is more than we ever thought possible. We have a total of 71 miles on the car now.

REDLINE OIL's President Tim Kerrigan is the owner of this car. So there was no question that we were going to change the fluids to REDLINE. We changed the engine oil to Redline 5w-30. We changed the trans fluid to Redline D4 ATF, and the rear end got 75/90 gear lube with redline friction additive.

I then put about 2 miles on the car and pulled it back on the dyno.
(the car went to the dyno all by itself without me touching the wheel)

We gave it a cool down period and did some pulls.

The results are that we have hit a new high of:
492.2 rwhp 472.3 rwtq

The results that this new Z06 that GM has put out are nothing short of fantastic. The scary part is that it will probably get better with some proper break in miles. We did over 10 miles of dyno roller time which is usually very good break in time.

The other realization is the fact that when everyone gets LS-7 edit tuning software the bar will again be raised. how much, without going into the engine? I don't know. Of course the usual mods like cam and porting the heads, ported throttle bodies, cold air intakes etc will reap many advances.

I am looking forward to the arrival of my own Z06 so i can be a little more unforgiving with the parts we deem R & D parts. My car will be the "Mule" where we will find out what works ( I will have the cam of the week) and then we can impliment them in our customer cars.

so stay tuned.There are great cars.

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WOW!!!! Lou, was this with or without the filter? Thanks.
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492.2 rwhp 473.3 rwtq
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Old 09-30-2005, 01:15 AM
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Guy's just think...in say 12 months the r&d will so far from where we are now...These car's have so much potential....when it's time for mine ill know what mods to do....
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492.2rwhp = 553.7 HP!!!!!!!!!!! (Assuming 12.5% driveloss -- 566HP @ 15%)
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Originally Posted by SupraLaal
Please post a video its starting to kill me
No kill stories please!
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Originally Posted by FIRSTC6Z06
No kill stories please!
I know that is a rule here. Just curious why? Is it because the mods/owners of this board actually believe that, uhh, stuff... or is it for legal reasons?

I love the politically correct world we live in today.

Ok, I'll hush now and go back to pretending that we all keep it a mile per hour under the speed limit and never race!
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Originally Posted by PimpDadd
492.2rwhp = 553.7 HP!!!!!!!!!!! (Assuming 12.5% driveloss -- 566HP @ 15%)
Actually, it is 579.05 flywheel at 15% and 562.51 at 12.5% (579.05 less 15% = 492.167 and 562.51 flywheel less 12.5% = 492.196). Easiest way to calculate flywheel hp from rearwheel is to just take the rear wheel hp let's say 492.2 and divide by .85 for the 15% loss and .875 for the 12.5% loss. There, you've made me exhaust my math knowledge.
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I wonder what the numbers will be once we get a cam, air box, underdrive pully, and electric water pump......Im guessing 530 rwhp....what do you guys think?
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Small cam yes. Big cam 600 plus.
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The video will be up tomorrow

They are editing the footage to make it a little more professional
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Originally Posted by Empatho
thats great and imagine with a tune and intake
SIMPLY INCREDIBLE GAINS FOR HEADERS ONLY!! GREAT WORK LOU!
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Originally Posted by BLOWN ECS Z06
SIMPLY INCREDIBLE GAINS FOR HEADERS ONLY!! GREAT WORK LOU!

I will be the first one to take credit for our headers but we all know that this car starts out with more than we all thought.

It was just waiting for someone to let it loose.



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