[ZR1] Mid engine next generation
#81
Get Some!
a more technically advanced engine would be nicer, parting with the charriot like leaf springs would be nicer, better gearing and gearbox (stuff the gas guzzler tax), carbonceramic brakes, and so on and so on. Offcourse our hunger for more, better and faster will never ends, but I think we can (and maybe even must) be mighty pleased with the way the Z06 is right now.
A great thread on coils and leaf springs.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...0&page=1&pp=20
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#82
Melting Slicks
Ask yourself this, if you like the HP and TQ numbers and curves do you really care how the engine makes it? If not then the LSx engines are some of the most advanced in the world. They are smaller, lighter, less complicated and get better gas mileage then many, many engines that make similar power.
#84
I understand there will be a Corvette C7 for the 2009 or 2010 model year with a supercharged LS9 engine putting down 650 HP, and the engine will remain up front. In addition carbon fiber will be used for the hood, roof, fenders and rocker panels.
Would this be the same supercar also known as the blue devil or super sport? I searched around but didn't see much talk on the C7.
I don't own a vette, just wish I did.
Would this be the same supercar also known as the blue devil or super sport? I searched around but didn't see much talk on the C7.
I don't own a vette, just wish I did.
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Mid engine cars generally CAN handle better because of their lower polar moment of interia that aids transitional turning and rearward weight bias for better traction to the rear drive wheels for 0-60 and 1/4 mile performance.
A mid engined car compared to a front engine rear drive car is like a dumbell compared to a cannon ball: the cannon ball can can be quickly and easily spun on its vertial axis compared to a dumbell (laying on its weights). Even if they weigh the same it is much easier to turn the cannon ball. The "dumbell" car can have 50-50 weight distribution, but that weight being far from the center of gravity is hard to turn.
Remember, early C3 Corvettes had 48% front/52% rear weight distribution and these don't outhandle C5's or C6s...
A mid engined car compared to a front engine rear drive car is like a dumbell compared to a cannon ball: the cannon ball can can be quickly and easily spun on its vertial axis compared to a dumbell (laying on its weights). Even if they weigh the same it is much easier to turn the cannon ball. The "dumbell" car can have 50-50 weight distribution, but that weight being far from the center of gravity is hard to turn.
Remember, early C3 Corvettes had 48% front/52% rear weight distribution and these don't outhandle C5's or C6s...
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That does not make any sense. Mid engine means the engine is in the center of the vehicle. Considering that the Fiero as well as the Fiat X1/9 did not fair well with the American buying public. I do not see a mid engine Corvette in the future with its current 90º engine design. If GM moves to an 180º engine design then it may be a reality.
#87
That does not make any sense. Mid engine means the engine is in the center of the vehicle. Considering that the Fiero as well as the Fiat X1/9 did not fair well with the American buying public. I do not see a mid engine Corvette in the future with its current 90º engine design. If GM moves to an 180º engine design then it may be a reality.
Porsche 911 is rear engine because the engine is behind the rear axle. A Ferrari 360 & 430 are Mid-Engine. It's all about how the weight of the engine falls on the front and rear axles.
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Dave Hill the retired chief engineer of the C6 said on an interview on TV that the C6 was approximately 85% new, you are right on. And the biggest discussion and change was "those (raised) headlights" which were removed for better aerodynamics. They were like air brakes on the previous generations. If course, as you can see that GM was taking another perspective in that car, Vette, wantings to make it a world class racecar, not exactly a sportscar anymore. This is the main reason why I bought the 06 c6 a6 F55, etc., they wanted to show the world that they wern't playing second fiddle anymore.
#89
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Mid-engine styling certainly has it's own distinctive design elements. I am really liking the new Audi R8. At $100k, this car would be in my sights as well. Mid-engine styling, awd and only lacking in raw power. That thing looks friggin' sweet from the back.
Why can't the new vette be mid-engined styled after the Cien. That was an excellent design concept worthy of $100k+.
Why can't the new vette be mid-engined styled after the Cien. That was an excellent design concept worthy of $100k+.
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Mid-engine styling certainly has it's own distinctive design elements. I am really liking the new Audi R8. At $100k, this car would be in my sights as well. Mid-engine styling, awd and only lacking in raw power. That thing looks friggin' sweet from the back.
Why can't the new vette be mid-engined styled after the Cien. That was an excellent design concept worthy of $100k+.
Why can't the new vette be mid-engined styled after the Cien. That was an excellent design concept worthy of $100k+.
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#91
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Mid-engine styling certainly has it's own distinctive design elements. I am really liking the new Audi R8. At $100k, this car would be in my sights as well. Mid-engine styling, awd and only lacking in raw power. That thing looks friggin' sweet from the back.
Why can't the new vette be mid-engined styled after the Cien. That was an excellent design concept worthy of $100k+.
Why can't the new vette be mid-engined styled after the Cien. That was an excellent design concept worthy of $100k+.
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There are CDPs for sale.. now!